Chairman's notes

 

IPR call reminder:

"I draw your attention to your obligations under the 3GPP Partner Organizations' IPR policies. Every Individual Member organization is obliged to declare to the Partner Organization or Organizations of which it is a member any IPR owned by the Individual Member or any other organization which is or is likely to become essential to the work of 3GPP.

Delegates are asked to take note that they are thereby invited:

  • to investigate whether their organization or any other organization owns IPRs which are, or are likely to become Essential in respect of the work of 3GPP.
  • to notify their respective Organizational Partners of all potential IPRs, e.g., for ETSI, by means of the IPR Information Statement and the Licensing declaration forms".

 

Antitrust policy Reminder:

"I also draw your attention to the fact that 3GPP activities are subject to all applicable antitrust and competition laws and that compliance with said laws is therefore required of any participant of this TSG/WG meeting including the Chairman and Vice Chairman. In case of question I recommend that you contact your legal counsel.

The leadership shall conduct the present meeting with impartiality and in the interests of 3GPP.

 

Furthermore, I would like to remind you that timely submission of work items in advance of TSG/WG meetings is important to allow for full and fair consideration of such matters."

 

 

List for Meeting: All Sessions
Temporary Documents List - Ordered by Agenda Item
AI TD# Type Doc For Subject Source Rel Comments e-mail_Discussion Result
0 - - - All Agenda Items - - Docs:=0 -
1.1 - - - Opening of the meeting - - Docs:=0 -
2 - - - Agenda - - Docs:=1 -
2 S2-2108249 AGENDA Approval SA WG2 #148E Meeting Agenda SA WG2 Chair Approved Approved
2.1 - - - IPR Call and Antitrust Reminder - - Docs:=0 -
3 - - - SA2#147E Meeting report - - Docs:=1 -
3 S2-2108250 REPORT Approval Auto-Generated Report of SA WG2 meeting #147E SA WG2 Secretary Approved Approved
4 - - - General - - Docs:=0 -
4.1 - - - Common issues and Incoming LSs - - Docs:=37 -
4.1 S2-2108251 LS In Action LS from SA WG6: Reply LS on IP address to GPSI translation SA WG6 (S6-211082) Rel-17 Revision of S2-2106990 from S2#147E. Noted Tao(VC) suggest to NOTE this LS since there seems no specific action needed and be postponed for 3 meetings since May this year.
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Noted
4.1 S2-2108256 LS In Action Reply LS on IP address to GPSI translation SA WG3 (S3-212355) Rel-17 Revision of S2-2107003 from S2#147E. Noted Tao(VC) suggest to NOTE this LS since there seems no specific action needed. It lasted in SA2 for 3 meetings and can be referred later on if needed.
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Noted
4.1 S2-2108257 LS In Action LS from GSMA 5GJA: LS on Traffic Categories in URSP GSMA 5GJA (5GJA17_104) - Revision of S2-2107006 from S2#147E. Response drafted in S2-2108979. Postponed Postponed
4.1 S2-2108979 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] Reply LS to GSMA NG 5GJA on Traffic Categories in URSP Apple Rel-18 Response to S2-2108257. Noted Haiyang (Huawei) provides r01
Krisztian (Apple) provides r02.
Chia-Lin (MediaTek) suggest to postpone LS
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Krisztian (Apple) proposes to send this LS as an interim update on the SA2 progress. SA2 can further update GSMA with new information, once available.
Tao (VC) check can we go with r02
Chia-Lin (MediaTek) still think no rush to send LS OUT to GSMA and sugges to send out a LS to SA to ask SA to handle this feedbeack to GSMA once SA has done with all the Rel-18 SID prioritization
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Noted
4.1 S2-2108268 LS In Action LS from CT WG4: LS on creating a new stage 2 TS for SMS-SBI CT WG4 (C4-214540) Rel-17 Revision of S2-2107033 from S2#147E. Final response in S2-2109340 Tao(VC) asked people view whether we confirm this with response or we NOTE this LS.
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Hannu (Nokia) comments that CT4 depends on answers from the other groups, CT1 have already replied in S2-2108275 and SA2 DRAFT reply with similar contents was already shared but not processed due to lack of time in SA2 #147E. Hannu shares draft LS out that was already technically reviewed last time and proposes that a tdoc number should be assigned to it so that it can be handled in CC#2.
Leo (Deutsche Telekom) supports Nokia's proposal. SA2 should send a reply LS at this SA2 meeting. The version in the DRAFTS folder is fine and can be approved.
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Hannu (Nokia) requests LS In S2-2108268 to be marked up for CC in order to assign a tdoc number for the proposed reply.
Replied to
4.1 S2-2109340 LS OUT Approval Reply LS on creating a new stage 2 TS for SMS-SBI SA WG2 - Created at CC#2. Response to S2-2108268. This LS was approved. Approved
4.1 S2-2108272 LS In Action LS from RAN WG3: Reply LS on RACS capability detection with S1 and NG handover RAN WG3 (R3-214373) Rel-16 Revision of S2-2107052 from S2#147E. Noted Alessio (Nokia): We propose to not this incoming LS. we have corresponding CR in AI#7.12 'Optimisations on UE radio capability signalling (RACS)'
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Noted
4.1 S2-2108275 LS In Information Reply LS on creating a new stage 2 TS for SMS-SBI CT WG1 (C1-216043) Rel-17 Noted Hannu (Nokia) proposes to note the LS in.
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Noted
4.1 S2-2108289 LS In Information LS from ETSI TC LI: Reply LS on PSCELL ID availability in SGW CDR ETSI TC LI (LI(21)P58049r1) Noted Hannu (Nokia) proposes to note the LS in as there is no SA2 action remaining.
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Noted
4.1 S2-2108291 LS In Information LS from APT Wireless Group: APT REPORT ON EMERGING CRITICAL APPLICATIONS & USE CASES OF IMT FOR INDUSTRIAL, SOCIETAL AND ENTERPRISE USERS APT Wireless Group (AWG28_OUT03 (Rev.1)) Noted Noted
4.1 S2-2108293 LS In Information LS from SA WG5: Reply LS to GSMA on new whitepaper E2E Network Slicing Architecture SA WG5 (S5-215083) Rel-17 Noted Peter (Ericsson) propose to note the incoming LS
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Noted
4.1 S2-2108295 LS In Information LS from SA WG6: LS on network slice management service consumption SA WG6 (S6-212460) Rel-18 Noted Peter (Ericsson) propose to note the incoming LS
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Noted
4.1 S2-2108312 DISCUSSION Discussion Discussion of Open-Source-Defined Multi-Access Edge Computing Xidian University Noted Juan Zhang (Qualcomm) clarifies that the discussion paper was not from Qualcomm.
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Noted
4.1 S2-2108986 DISCUSSION Discussion NRF Profile documentation Nokia, Nokia Shanghai-Bell Noted Josep (DT) prefers option 2.
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Noted
4.1 S2-2108384 DISCUSSION Agreement Documentation Handling on NF profile. Ericsson Rel-17 Noted Noted
4.1 S2-2108385 CR Approval 23.501 CR3369 (Rel-17, 'F'): Documentation handling for description of NF profile Ericsson Rel-17 Noted Josep (DT) thinks that this is a bad idea. Option 2 in 8986 is a better way.
Judy (Ericsson) asks Josep (DT) for clarification and comments
Josep (DT) replies.
Shabnam (Ericsson) replies
Josep (DT) replies. Better current duplication than partial duplication
Judy (Ericsson) provides r01 and comment
Devaki (Nokia) objects to the CR and its revisions. This CR is basically introducing text to state that the section is 'incomplete' thus unnecessary, furthermore, it disregards NF registration using OA&M.
Judy (Ericsson) is not sure how Devaki (Nokia) concludes 'the section is 'incomplete' thus unnecessary'. The intent of the CR is to state that 6.2.6 is incomplete, and we complete it trying to avoid duplication. Please see a revision in r02 and request Devaki (Nokia) to reconsider.
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Devaki (Nokia) comments that the crux of our concern is in the statement quoted by Judy 'The intent of the CR is to state that 6.2.6 is incomplete' (as our preference is to complete it), open to rediscuss the split between different specs until January meeting.
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4.1 S2-2108386 CR Approval 23.502 CR3135R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): SMF+PGW-C assigned PDU Session ID Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107164 from S2#147E. Source to WG incorrect. CC#2: Noted Judy (Ericsson) provide r01 based on the discussion in 8267 thread.
Susan (Huawei) provides comments.
Irfan (Cisco) raises technical concern with r01.
Zhendong (ZTE): provides response.
Irfan (Cisco) retracts his previous comment on r01.
Zhendong (ZTE): provides r02
Susan (Huawei) replies to Zhendong (ZTE).
Irfan (Cisco) provides r03
Laurent (Nokia): provides r04
Judy (Ericsson) provide r05
Zhendong (ZTE): provides r06
Zhendong (ZTE): provides r07
Susan (Huawei) objects to all revisions of this CR, i.e. r01 to r07, can accept the original one.
Laurent (Nokia): answers
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Tao(VC) check whether r00 agreeable or not.
Judy (Ericsson) accepts r00, r01, r02, r05, r07 and object to other revisions, and responds to Laurent (Nokia)
Irfan (Cisco) accepts r07
Sebastian (Qualcomm) objects to r00
Sebastian (Qualcomm) proposes to establish a WA based on r07 in CC#2
Zhendong (ZTE): accept r07
Laurent (Nokia): supports a WA at CC2 based on R07
Judy (Ericsson) responds to Laurent (Nokia)
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Zhuoyi (China Telecom) proposes to postpone this CR.
Irfan (Cisco) proposes to atleast technically endorse r07.
Noted
4.1 S2-2108412 CR Approval 23.501 CR2385R6 (Rel-17, 'C'): Support of the mapping from IP addressing information provided to an AF to the user identity [Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell], Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107653 from S2#147E. r05 agreed. Revised to S2-2109140, merging S2-2108923 Laurent (Nokia): provides r01
Dario (Qualcomm) privides r02
Magnus O (Ericsson) provides r03
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) questions for clarification
Saso (Intel) seeks clarification on UE address.
Magnus O (Ericsson) provides r04
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) comments
Magnus O (Ericsson) replies
Laurent (Nokia): answers and provides r05
Magnus O (Ericsson) is fine with r05
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Dario (Qualcomm) is OK with r05
Hui (Huawei) is OK with r05
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Revised
4.1 S2-2109140 CR Approval 23.501 CR2385R8 (Rel-17, 'C'): Support of the mapping from IP addressing information provided to an AF to the user identity Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108412r05, merging S2-2108923. Approved Agreed
4.1 S2-2108413 CR Approval 23.502 CR2926R3 (Rel-17, 'B'): AF specific UE ID retrieval Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107248 from S2#147E. r06 agreed. Revised to S2-2109141, merging S2-2108924 Laurent (Nokia): provides r01
Magnus O (Ericsson) comments
Saso (Intel) seeks clarification on UE address.
Dario (Qualcomm) provides r02 and asks further questions.
Hyesung (Samsung) provides r03 and asks questions.
Magnus O (Ericsson) provides r04
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) comments
Magnus O (Ericsson) replies
Dario (Qualcomm) provides r05
Saso (Intel) comments.
Laurent (Nokia): provides r06 = r05+ support of MAC address
Florin(Broadcom) supports having the support for the MAC address and as a result r06 provided by Laurent.
Magnus O (Ericsson) is fine with r06
Hui (Huawei) fine with supporting MAC address.
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Laurent (Nokia): I have concerns with not supporting MAC address and thus prefers MUCH r06 wrt R04 or R05
Hyesung (Samsung) is fine with r04, r05, 06
Dario (Qualcomm) is OK with r06
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Revised
4.1 S2-2109141 CR Approval 23.502 CR2926R4 (Rel-17, 'B'): AF specific UE ID retrieval Ericsson, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108413r06, merging S2-2108924. Approved Agreed
4.1 S2-2108267 LS In Action LS from CT WG3: LS on PDU Session ID assignment for the Interworking scenario CT WG3 (C3-214527) Rel-17 Revision of S2-2107031 from S2#147E. Responses drafted in S2-2108589 and S2-2108853. Postponed Judy (Ericsson) follows Zhendong suggestion to use this thread to discuss different proposals (in e.g. 8486, 8591 and 8386).
Zhendong (ZTE): provides the response
Judy (Ericsson) responds to Zhendong (ZTE).
Zhendong (ZTE): provides the repsonse
Zhendong (ZTE): ask for clarification
Susan (Huawei) provides comments.
Laurent (Nokia): Comments
Irfan (Cisco) comments, supports UDM based approach
Sebastian (Qualcomm) comments that the scenario at hand is realistic and supports a UDM based approach
Judy (Ericsson) provide r01 based on the discussion in 8267 thread.
Zhendong (ZTE): provides clarification
Zhendong (ZTE): provides comments.
Judy (Ericsson) clarifies
Zhendong (ZTE): provides response
Judy (Ericsson) asks Tao (chair) to ignore r01 which is not intended for this paper (but for 8386), and responds to Zhendong (ZTE).
Zhendong (ZTE): respond to judy
Susan (Huawei): Cannot agree with the UDM based solution.
Judy (Ericsson) responds to Susan (Huawei)
Susan (Huawei) responds to Judy (Huawei)
Laurent (Nokia): we can easily live with Judy's approach !!
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Postponed
4.1 S2-2108589 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] Reply LS on PDU Session ID assignment for the Interworking scenario Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-16 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107485 from S2#147E. Response to S2-2108267. Noted Laurent (Nokia): Objects to any revision of this Tdoc
Zhendong (ZTE): simillar concern,and propose to discuss in 8267
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Noted
4.1 S2-2108853 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] LS on PDU Session ID assignment for the Interworking scenario Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Response to S2-2108267. Noted Judy (Ericsson) prepared two revisions: r01 replies with a solution, and r02 replies that no consensus reached on the solution
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Tao(VC) check whether r01 or r02 agreeable based on the discussion under 8267
Judy (Ericsson) assumes we can go for r01 if any revision of 8386 can be agreed, otherwise r02 if we don't want to delay the response further.
Tao(VC) let's check r01 agreeable or not then
Sebastian (Qualcomm) is ok with r01 but objects to r02; we need to solve this issue
Zhendong (ZTE): agree with r01
Susan (Huawei) is ok with r02, object to r01 unless r00 of S2-2108386 can be agreeable.
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Noted
4.1 S2-2108486 CR Approval 23.502 CR3249 (Rel-17, 'F'): PDU Session ID assignment for non N1-NAS UEs Cisco Systems, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, ZTE Rel-17 Noted Judy (Ericsson) has major concern on the proposal that UDM allocate PDU Session ID, explained
Zhendong (ZTE): propose to discuss in the 8267
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Susan (Huawei) objects to this CR.
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Noted
4.1 S2-2108497 DISCUSSION Discussion Discussion and proposal on PDU session ID issue in CT WG3 LS. ZTE, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Cisco Systems Rel-17 Noted Noted
4.1 S2-2108590 DISCUSSION Agreement Discussion on PDU Session ID assignment for interworking scenario. Huawei, HiSilicon Noted Noted
4.1 S2-2108591 CR Approval 23.502 CR3190R1 (Rel-16, 'F'): Correction on PDU Session ID assignment by SMF+PGW-C Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-16 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107486 from S2#147E. Noted Laurent (Nokia): Objects to any revision of this Tdoc
Zhendong (ZTE): simillar concern, and propose to discuss in 8267
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4.1 S2-2108592 CR Approval 23.502 CR3191R1 (Rel-17, 'A'): Correction on PDU Session ID assignment by SMF+PGW-C Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107487 from S2#147E. Noted Laurent (Nokia): Objects to any revision of this Tdoc
Zhendong (ZTE): simillar concern, and propose to discuss in 8267
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4.1 S2-2108923 CR Approval 23.501 CR2385R7 (Rel-17, 'F'): Support of the mapping from IP addressing information provided to an AF to the user identity Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107653 from S2#147E. Merged into S2-2109140 Laurent (Nokia): asks 8923 (my Tdoc) to be merged in 8412
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Merged
4.1 S2-2108924 CR Approval 23.502 CR2329R5 (Rel-17, 'F'): Support of the mapping from IP addressing information provided to an AF to the user identity Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107654 from S2#147E. Merged into S2-2109141 Magnus O (Ericsson) propose to merge into 8413
Laurent (Nokia): Oups I forgot to tell my willingness to merge, yes ok to merge
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Merged
4.1 S2-2108296 LS In Information LS from GSMA NRG: LS from NRG to 3GPP on Emergency Communication Improvement GSMA NRG (NRG_012_200) Response drafted in S2-2108981. Noted Leo (Deutsche Telekom) proposes to Note the incoming LS.
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Noted
4.1 S2-2108981 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] Reply LS on Emergency Communication Improvement Orange Response to S2-2108296. Noted Leo (Deutsche Telekom) proposes to Note this reply LS.
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Noted
4.1 S2-2108980 SID NEW Approval New WID on Study on Emergency Short Message Service . Orange Rel-18 Noted Antoine (Orange) proposes to Note this WID.
Leo (Deutsche Telekom) agrees to Note this WID.
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Noted
4.1 S2-2109006 LS In Information LS from RAN WG3: LS On Source IP address clarifications RAN WG3 (R3-216139) Rel-16 Noted Noted
4.1 S2-2109007 LS In Action LS from RAN WG3: Reply to Reply LS On ACL support for Indirect Data Forwarding RAN WG3 (R3-216140) Rel-16 Postponed Qian (Ericsson) proposes to POSTPONE the paper since no action can be agreed.
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Postponed
4.1 S2-2109010 LS In Information LS from RAN WG3: Reply LS on Guidelines on Port Allocation for New 3GPP Interfaces RAN WG3 (R3-216233) Rel-17 Noted Noted
4.2 - - - P-CRs/CRs related to use of inclusive language in 3GPP - - Docs:=1 -
4.2 S2-2108884 CR Approval 23.501 CR3313R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Corrections on TSCTSF selection and residence time calculation Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2108138 from S2#147E. Approved Agreed
5 - - - Pre-Rel-17 Maintenance (excluding all 5G topics) - - Docs:=0 -
5.1 - - - 3GPP Packet Access Maintenance - - Docs:=6 -
5.1 S2-2108352 CR Approval 23.032 CR0020 (Rel-16, 'F'): Introducing new high accuracy GAD shape with scalable uncertainty Ericsson, T-Mobile USA Rel-16 r03 agreed. Revised to S2-2109024. Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) provides r01.
Richard (Ericsson) provides r02.
Richard (Ericsson) provides r03.
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Stephen (Qualcomm) comments the r03 is fine with us
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Revised
5.1 S2-2109024 CR Approval 23.032 CR0020R1 (Rel-16, 'F'): Introducing new high accuracy GAD shape with scalable uncertainty Ericsson, T-Mobile USA Rel-16 Revision of S2-2108352r03. Approved Agreed
5.1 S2-2108353 CR Approval 23.032 CR0021 (Rel-17, 'A'): Introducing new high accuracy GAD shape with scalable uncertainty Ericsson, T-Mobile USA Rel-17 r00 agreed. Revised to S2-2109025. Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) provides r01.
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5.1 S2-2109025 CR Approval 23.032 CR0021R1 (Rel-17, 'A'): Introducing new high accuracy GAD shape with scalable uncertainty Ericsson, T-Mobile USA Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108353r00. Approved Agreed
5.1 S2-2108767 CR Approval 23.303 CR0330R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): TS 23.303 corrections discovered when working on 5G ProSe Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, LG Electronics Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107565 from S2#147E. r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109026. Judy (Ericsson) comments and provide r01
LaeYoung (LGE) provide r02.
Judy (Ericsson) is fine with r02
Hannu (Nokia) supports r02
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5.1 S2-2109026 CR Approval 23.303 CR0330R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): TS 23.303 corrections discovered when working on 5G ProSe Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, LG Electronics, Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108767r02. Approved Agreed
5.2 - - - QoS and PCC Maintenance - - Docs:=11 -
5.2 S2-2108346 CR Approval 23.503 CR0671 (Rel-16, 'F'): Access network information request without PCC rules Ericsson, AT&T, Deutsche Telekom, Telecom Italia Rel-16 r04 agreed. Revised to S2-2109027. Pallab (Nokia) comments.
Belen (Ericsson) replies to comments.
Mirko (Huawei) comments.
Belen (Ericsson) accpets the proposal to use predefined PCC Rules
Belen (Ericsson) provides r01
Pallab (Nokia) provides r02
Belen (Ericsson) cannot accept r02, provides r03
Pallab (Nokia) is OK with r03
Mirko (Huawei) provides r04.
Pallab (Nokia) is OK with r04 and would like to co-sign.
Belen (Ericsson) okay with r04.
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Revised
5.2 S2-2109027 CR Approval 23.503 CR0671R1 (Rel-16, 'F'): Access network information request without PCC rules Ericsson, AT&T, Deutsche Telekom, Telecom Italia, Nokia Rel-16 Revision of S2-2108346r04. Approved Agreed
5.2 S2-2108347 CR Approval 23.203 CR1137 (Rel-16, 'F'): Access network information request without PCC rules Ericsson, AT&T, Deutsche Telekom, Telecom Italia Rel-16 r02 + changes agreed. Revised to S2-2109332. Pallab (Nokia) has same comments as in 8346.
Belen (Ericsson) suggests to discuss S2-2108346 first and reuse the same text here.
Belen (Ericsson) provides r01.
Belen (Ericsson) provides r02
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Pallab (Nokia) comments on r02
Belen (Ericsson) ask to add this CR to CC#2
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Revised
5.2 S2-2109332 CR Approval 23.203 CR1137R1 (Rel-16, 'F'): Access network information request without PCC rules Ericsson, AT&T, Deutsche Telekom, Telecom Italia Rel-16 Revision of S2-2108347r02 + changes. Approved Agreed
5.2 S2-2108348 CR Approval 23.503 CR0672 (Rel-17, 'A'): Access network info request without PCC rules Ericsson, AT&T, Deutsche Telekom, Telecom Italia Rel-17 r00 agreed. Revised to S2-2109028. Belen (Ericsson) suggests to discuss S2-2108346 first and reuse the same text here.
Belen (Ericsson) provides r01.
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Revised
5.2 S2-2109028 CR Approval 23.503 CR0672R1 (Rel-17, 'A'): Access network info request without PCC rules Ericsson, AT&T, Deutsche Telekom, Telecom Italia Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108348r00. Approved Agreed
5.2 S2-2108349 CR Approval 23.203 CR1138 (Rel-17, 'A'): Access network information request without PCC rules Ericsson, AT&T, Deutsche Telekom, Telecom Italia Rel-17 r01 + changes agreed. Revised to S2-2109333. Belen (Ericsson) suggests to discuss S2-2108346 first and reuse the same text here.
Belen (Ericsson) provides r01.
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Revised
5.2 S2-2109333 CR Approval 23.203 CR1138R1 (Rel-17, 'A'): Access network information request without PCC rules Ericsson, AT&T, Deutsche Telekom, Telecom Italia Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108349r01 + changes. Approved Agreed
5.2 S2-2108350 DISCUSSION Agreement Support for LI in SMS and Location Retrieval. Ericsson Rel-16 Noted Noted
5.2 S2-2108387 CR Approval 23.401 CR3670 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction to MME handling EPS bearer QoS Ericsson Rel-17 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109029. Mirko (Huawei) provides r01.
Judy (Ericsson) thanks Mirko (Huawei) for the revision and is fine with r01
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Revised
5.2 S2-2109029 CR Approval 23.401 CR3670R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction to MME handling EPS bearer QoS Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108387r01. Approved Agreed
5.3 - - - Non-3GPP Access Maintenance - - Docs:=0 -
5.4 - - - IMS and IMS-Related Maintenance - - Docs:=0 -
6 - - - Rel-15/Rel-16 Maintenance for 5G (only related to 5GS_Ph1 Work Item) - - Docs:=0 -
6.1 - - - General aspects, concepts and reference models - - Docs:=9 -
6.1 S2-2108298 LS in Action LS from GSMA 5GJA: Reply LS from 5GJA to CT WG4 and SA WG3 on Using N32 for Interconnect Scenarios GSMA 5GJA (5GJA#18 a Doc 112_r2) Response drafted in S2-2109015. Final response in S2-2109334 Leo (Deutsche Telekom): proposes to change the 'Result' for this TD from 'OPEN' to 'Replied to' when S2-2109015 is approved.
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Replied to
6.1 S2-2109015 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] Reply LS on Using N32 for Interconnect Scenarios NTT DOCOMO Created at CC#1. Response to S2-2108298. r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109334. Leo (Deutsche Telekom) provides r01.
Atsushi (NTT Docomo) is fine with r01.
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Laurent (Nokia): Comments
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Revised
6.1 S2-2109334 LS OUT Approval Reply LS on Using N32 for Interconnect Scenarios SA WG2 - Revision of S2-2109015r01. Approved Approved
6.1 S2-2108796 CR Approval 23.501 CR3429 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on rejected S-NSSAI andEquivalent PLMNs TAIs in the RA Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell. Rel-17 Noted Peter (Ericsson) provides comments and propose to note the CR and focus on the NSAC issue as done by other CRs in 8.4
Jinguo(ZTE) agree with Peter. Lets focus on the LS from CT1
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alessio(Nokia) it is a pity this was requested to be noted. no one questions the network side sends for the current PLMN but then if it includes TAIs of other PLMNs in RA the UE behavior is not specified.
alessio(Nokia) BTW if Ericsson or ZTE prefer to continue discussing this now I am ok. we need to eventually have some text like this one.
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Noted
6.1 S2-2108962 CR Approval 23.501 CR3460 (Rel-15, 'F'): Clarifications on SEPP Deutsche Telekom Rel-15 Noted Laurent (Nokia): provides r01 and is not sure this is FASMO
Fenqin (Huawei): comments
Leo (Deutsche Telekom): move to AI#6.1
Leo (Deutsche Telekom): is fine to NOTE the CR for Rel-15 and do error correction from Rel-16 onwards
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides r05
Leo (Deutsche Telekom) clarifies that the proposed changes are in S2-2108964r05
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Noted
6.1 S2-2108964 CR Approval 23.501 CR3461 (Rel-16, 'A'): Clarifications on SEPP Deutsche Telekom Rel-16 r05 agreed. Revised to S2-2109030. Laurent (Nokia): provides R01 and r02 (same content but small 'r' in zip name)
Leo (Deutsche Telekom): move to AI#6.1
Leo (Deutsche Telekom): comments and provides r03
Leo (Deutsche Telekom): provides r04
Leo (Deutsche Telekom): is fine with r05 provided by Ericsson
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Leo (Deutsche Telekom): r05 shall be approved. It is no longer a mirror, it is now a CAT-F CR.
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Revised
6.1 S2-2109030 CR Approval 23.501 CR3461R1 (Rel-16, 'F'): Clarifications on SEPP Deutsche Telekom, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Ericsson Rel-16 Revision of S2-2108964r05. Approved Agreed
6.1 S2-2108970 CR Approval 23.501 CR3462 (Rel-17, 'A'): Clarifications on SEPP Deutsche Telekom Rel-17 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109031. Qianghua (Huawei) provides comments
Leo (Deutsche Telekom) provides r01 which is no longer a mirror.
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Revised
6.1 S2-2109031 CR Approval 23.501 CR3462R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarifications on SEPP Deutsche Telekom, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108970r01. Approved Agreed
6.2 - - - Common Access Control, RM and CM functions and procedure flows - - Docs:=10 -
6.2 S2-2108374 CR Approval 23.502 CR3150R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on rerouted Registration Request message Ericsson, Huawei, HiSilicon, NEC Rel-17 Revision of (Endorsed) S2-2107865 from S2#147E. Technically endorsed Alessio(Nokia) proposes to postpone this CR till we receive reply LS from SA3. if it comes in this week we can check it (not sure we will get one). for now it should remain with same status as last meeting.
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Qian (Ericsson) propose to mark it as Technically Endorsed (same as last meeting) due to lack of LS response.
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Endorsed
6.2 S2-2108442 CR Approval 23.502 CR3237 (Rel-17, 'F'): UE SM context fetch in registration procedure during inter-network mobility Samsung Rel-17 CC#2: Postponed Youngkyo(Samsung) provides a revision r01.
Myungjune (LGE) proposes to merge this CR into S2-2108462 (AI#8.2).
Youngkyo(Samsung) replies and proposes to merge S2-2108462 (AI#8.2) into this CR.
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides comments and technically prefer 08642.
Qianghua (Huawei) prefers S2-2108462
Hannu (Nokia) is OK to merge this CR into S2-2108462 and would have comments if 8442 is expected to continue
Youngkyo(Samsung) is okay to merge this CR into S2-2108462.
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Youngkyo(Samsung) requests to take all the proposal of S2-2108462r03(AI#8.2) into the S2-2108462, which is marked as merged into S2-2108462 .
Myungjune (LGE) supports Youngkyo's suggestion
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Postponed
6.2 S2-2108470 CR Approval 23.502 CR3245 (Rel-17, 'F'): Updating AMF with new Routing Indicator Data if re-registration is not triggered Ericsson Rel-17 Postponed Susan (Huawei) provides comments and r01.
Fei (OPPO) asks questions.
Josep (DT) prefers the approach in r01. Provides r02 adding AUSF
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides replies and comments that r01 does not work
Susan (Huawei) replies to Peter Hedman (Ericsson).
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Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides reply
Susan (Huawei) replies to Peter Hedman (Ericsson) and propose to postpone the CR to next meeting.
Hannu (Nokia) supports the proposal to postpone.
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides replies that error then remains in the TS
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Postponed
6.2 S2-2108613 CR Approval 23.502 CR3262 (Rel-16, 'F'): AMF re-allocation during inter PLMN mobility ZTE Rel-16 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109335. Fenqin (Huawei) comments
Jinguo(ZTE) response and suggest to take majority views.
Alessio(Nokia) proposes this CR can be used as basis of a simple clarification where we say that there is no reallocation in connected mode. this may need to go back to the earlier releases too.
Jinguo(ZTE) provides r01
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Fenqin (Huawei) We can only accept the r01+ cover page update. The cover page of this CR need be updated to align with 8615r01.
alessio (Nokia) ok with r01
Jinguo(ZTE) asks for CC#2.
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Revised
6.2 S2-2109335 CR Approval 23.502 CR3262R1 (Rel-16, 'F'): AMF re-allocation during inter PLMN mobility ZTE Rel-16 Revision of S2-2108613r01. Approved Agreed
6.2 S2-2108614 CR Approval 23.501 CR3402 (Rel-16, 'F'): AMF re-allocation in CM connected state ZTE Rel-16 Noted Alessio(Nokia) proposes to note the paper or to update it with the detail to ALWAYS include NSSAI in the RRC connection establishment MSG 5.
Jinguo(ZTE) asks question
Alessio(Nokia) comments
Jinguo(ZTE) response
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Jinguo(ZTE) suggests to approve r01
Jinguo(ZTE) suggests to approve r00, the original version. There is no r01
Fenqin(Huawei)propose to Note this paper
alessio(Nokia) proposes a way forward to approve the original document after removing in CC#2 'and/or new UE requested NSSAI received from UE in CM Connected state,'
Jinguo(ZTE) agree with alessio(Nokia), lets check at CC#2
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Fenqin(Huawei) comments
Noted
6.2 S2-2108615 CR Approval 23.502 CR3263 (Rel-17, 'F'): AMF re-allocation during inter PLMN mobility ZTE Rel-17 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109336. Fenqin (Huawei) comments
Jinguo(ZTE) provides r01
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alessio (Nokia) ok with r01
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Revised
6.2 S2-2109336 CR Approval 23.502 CR3263R1 (Rel-17, 'A'): AMF re-allocation during inter PLMN mobility ZTE Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108615r01. Approved Agreed
6.2 S2-2108616 CR Approval 23.501 CR3403 (Rel-17, 'F'): AMF re-allocation in CM connected state ZTE Rel-17 Noted Fenqin(Huawei)propose to Note this paper
alessio(Nokia) proposes a way forward to approve the original document after removing in CC#2 'and/or new UE requested NSSAI received from UE in CM Connected state,'
Jinguo(ZTE) agree with alessio(Nokia). Lets check it at CC#2. I can remove 'and/or new UE requested NSSAI received from UE in CM Connected state,' and update the cover page accordingly.
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Noted
6.2 S2-2108676 CR Approval 23.502 CR3271 (Rel-17, 'F'): Inter PLMN handover procedure Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Noted Qian (Ericsson) comments
Fenqin (Huawei) responds
Jinguo (ZTE) comments
Qian (Ericsson) responds
Alessio(Nokia) proposes to note this CR and handle this topic in rel-18
Fenqin (Huawei) I agree that this need some change at the existing specification. But this is R17 :) .
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Qian (Ericsson) propose to NOTE the paper and go with the decision in 8615 .
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Noted
6.3 - - - Session management and continuity functions and flows - - Docs:=5 -
6.3 S2-2108388 DISCUSSION Agreement Service Request and PCF interaction. Ericsson Rel-16 Postponed Fenqin (Huawei) comments
Judy (Ericsson) responds to Fenqin (Huawei)
Fenqin (Huawei) responds
Myungjune (LGE) provides comments.
Judy (Ericsson) responds to Myungjune (LGE) and Fenqin (Huawei)
Jinguo (ZTE) provides comments.
Judy (Ericsson) responds to Jinguo (ZTE)'s that his comments are addressed in the paper as well as in previous responses.
Fenqin (Huawei) comments.
Judy (Ericsson) ask Fenqin (Huawei) for clarification
Fenqin (Huawei) comments and propose to postpone this issue.
Laurent (Nokia): we support Fenqin's request to postpone
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Judy (Ericsson) is OK to postpone to allow more time for discussion.
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Postponed
6.3 S2-2108389 CR Approval 23.502 CR3230 (Rel-16, 'F'): Service Request and PCF interaction Ericsson Rel-16 Postponed Fenqin (Huawei) comments
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Laurent (Nokia): we support Fenqin's request to postpone
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Postponed
6.3 S2-2108390 CR Approval 23.502 CR3231 (Rel-17, 'A'): Service Request and PCF interaction Ericsson Rel-17 Postponed Fenqin (Huawei) comments
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Laurent (Nokia): we support Fenqin's request to postpone
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Postponed
6.3 S2-2108512 CR Approval 23.501 CR3382 (Rel-17, 'F'): Supplementation of L2TP tunnel applicable senario China Mobile Rel-17 r03 agreed. Revised to S2-2109032. Laurent (Nokia): provides r
Laurent (Nokia): provides r01
Stefan (Ericsson) supports r01
Haris(Qualcomm) provides r02
Dan(China Mobile) is ok with r02 and provide r03 to clear the text.
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Laurent (Nokia): objects to R00 and R02,
Dan (China Mobile): suggest to go with r03
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Revised
6.3 S2-2109032 CR Approval 23.501 CR3382R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Supplementation of L2TP tunnel applicable senario China Mobile Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108512r03. Approved Agreed
6.4 - - - Security related functions and flows - - Docs:=0 -
6.5 - - - QoS concept and functionality - - Docs:=0 -
6.6 - - - Policy and charging control - - Docs:=26 -
6.6 S2-2108269 LS In Action LS from CT WG6: LS to SA2 on mandatory SSC modes supported by UE CT WG6 (C6-210258) Rel-15 Revision of S2-2107035 from S2#147E. Responses drafted in S2-2108322, S2-2108368, S2-2108583 and S2-2108782. Final response in S2-2109345 Replied to
6.6 S2-2108322 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] LS Reply to CT WG6 on mandatory SSC modes supported by UE T-Mobile USA Inc. Rel-17 Response to S2-2108269 To be Merged into S2-2109345 Pallab (Nokia) suggests to move the LSOut discussion to a single email thread in S2-2108368.
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Merged
6.6 S2-2108368 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] Reply LS on mandatory SSC modes supported by UE Ericsson Rel-15 Response to S2-2108269. CC#2: r10 agreed. Revised to S2-2109345, merging S2-2108322, S2-2108583 and S2-2108782 Hui (Huawei) asks for clarification.
Pallab (Nokia) comments and suggests that we discuss the LS Response in this thread.
Dan (China Mobile) provide consideration.
Irfan (Cisco) provides comments.
Irfan (Cisco) adds Dan's comment to this thread to keep discussion one thread
Fei (OPPO) comments.
Haris(Qualcomm) objects to this LS response since it is not supported by stage-3 text and would create UE impacts in frozen releases
Haris (Qualcomm) provides comments.
Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) comments.
Stefan (Ericsson) provides questions to Haris
Haris(Qualcomm) comments
Irfan (Cisco) provides response to Harris
Haris(Qualcomm) replies
Krisztian (Apple) supports Qualcomm's and Mediatek's view that currently all SSC modes are considered optional for the UE to support. We have no problem to make SSC mode 1 mandatory for all UEs. We can't accept making SSC modes 2 and 3 mandatory for the UE to support.
Guillaume (MediaTek) adds further comments
Irfan (Cisco) comments on SSC Mode 2 optional for UE
Hui(Huawei) comments
Haris(Qualcomm) comments and provides r01
Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) replies to Pallab (Nokia).
Magnus H (Ericsson) comments
Saso (Intel) comments
Stefan (Ericsson) comments
Irfan (Cisco) comments and provides r02
Pallab (Nokia) responds to Irfan (Cisco) and requests for clarification
Irfan (Cisco) responds to Pallab (Nokia)
Magnus H (Ericsson) provides r03
Dan (China Mobile) object to any version which one without saying the SSC mode 1 should be mandatory supported by UE
Haris(Qualcomm) provides r04
Serge (T-Mobile USA) supports r03 or r04 and comments
Saso (Intel) replies to Magnus H (Ericsson) on N26
Magnus H (Ericsson) withdraws comment on N26
Magnus H (Ericsson) comment related to no N26 support.
Dan (China Mobile) provide r05
Haris(Qualcomm) is ok but if we go with r05 we should also approve a CR to back up our assertions
Pallab (Nokia) asks for clarification on r05.
Irfan (Cisco) is also OK with r05
Pallab (Nokia) agrees with Fei (OPPO).
Pallab (Nokia) provides r06
Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) provides r07
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Stefan (Ericsson) cannot agree r07. Uploaded r08 and r09 in DRAFTS folder. Another alternative is to postpone the LS.
Irfan (Cisco) supports r08
Haris(Qualcomm) indicates that is ok with r08 and comments on suggestion from Irfan
Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.): ok with r08
Fei (OPPO) ok with r09 or postpone the LS.
Hui (Huawei) ok with r09 or postpone the LS.
Haris(Qualcomm) objects to r09
Stefan (Ericsson) OK with r08, r09 or postponing the LS
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Stefan (Ericsson) uploaded r08 to CC#2 folder
Revised
6.6 S2-2109345 LS OUT Approval Reply LS on mandatory SSC modes supported by UE SA WG2 Rel-15 Revision of S2-2108368r10, merging S2-2108322, S2-2108583 and S2-2108782. Approved Approved
6.6 S2-2108583 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] Reply LS to SA WG2 on mandatory SSC modes supported by UE OPPO Rel-15 Response to S2-2108269 To be Merged into S2-2109345 Pallab (Nokia) suggests to move the LSOut discussion to a single email thread in S2-2108368.
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Merged
6.6 S2-2108782 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] Reply LS to SA WG2 on mandatory SSC modes supported by UE Qualcomm Rel-15 Response to S2-2108269 To be Merged into S2-2109345 Pallab (Nokia) suggests to move the LSOut discussion to a single email thread in S2-2108368.
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Merged
6.6 S2-2108320 DISCUSSION Discussion Mandatory SSC Modes. T-Mobile USA Rel-17 Noted Noted
6.6 S2-2108890 DISCUSSION Discussion Mandatory SSC Mode Support for UE. Cisco Systems Rel-16 Noted Noted
6.6 S2-2108891 CR Approval 23.501 CR3452 (Rel-16, 'F'): SSC Mode support by UE Cisco Systems Rel-16 Noted Josep (DT) asks a question for clarification.
Irfan (Cisco) responds and provides r01
Haris (Qualcomm) objects to the CR (all revisions)
Hui(Huawei) provides comments
Krisztian (Apple) also objects this CR. We can't accept making SSC mode 2 mandatory for all UEs to support.
Pallab (Nokia) provides r02.
Stefan (Ericsson) comments and provides r03
Pallab (Nokia) comments on r03.
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Noted
6.6 S2-2108892 CR Approval 23.501 CR3453 (Rel-17, 'A'): SSC Mode support by UE Cisco Systems Rel-17 Noted Noted
6.6 S2-2108629 DISCUSSION Agreement SSC modes and optional functionalities in URSP. Qualcomm Incorporated Noted Noted
6.6 S2-2108645 CR Approval 23.501 CR3412 (Rel-15, 'F'): Support for SSC modes Qualcomm Incorporated Rel-15 Postponed Irfan (Cisco) corrects the tdoc number and provides r01
Haris(Qualcomm) cannot accept r01 since it creates ambiguity re the requirement for SSC mode 2
Pallab (Nokia) provides r02.
Hui (Huawei) provides r03.
Irfan (Cisco) provide r03 based on update to r01
Chris (Vodafone) prefers r03 to r0, but expects that further work is needed.
Haris(Qualcomm) objects to r03
Magnus H (Ericsson) suggest further work needed
Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.): ok with r03
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Irfan (Cisco) uploads r04 to draft folder. Cisco is ok with r03 or r04 (in drafts folder)
Haris(Qualcomm) comments on r04
Stefan (Ericsson) proposes to postpone the CR
Haris(Qualcomm) comments and proposes a WF
Hui (Huawei) fine with postpone the CR
Fei (OPPO) is fine with r04 and r00
Stefan (Ericsson) comments on WF and uploaded LS revisions on the 8368 thread
Hui (Huawei) asks to postpone the CR.
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Postponed
6.6 S2-2108772 CR Approval 23.501 CR3425 (Rel-16, 'A'): Support for SSC modes Qualcomm Incorporated Rel-16 Postponed Postponed
6.6 S2-2108780 CR Approval 23.501 CR3426 (Rel-17, 'A'): Support for SSC modes Qualcomm Incorporated Rel-17 Postponed Postponed
6.6 S2-2108554 CR Approval 23.503 CR0676 (Rel-15, 'F'): Clarifications on SSC mode 3 Samsung Rel-15 Noted Belen (Ericsson) asks question for clarification
Dongeun (Samsung) clarifies.
Chia-Lin (MediaTek) considers this is not essential correction and Rel-15 has been frozen for a long time. The CR is not needed.
Belen (Ericsson) is okay with the clarifications, ask a question.
Dongeun (Samsung) provides r01 (also for and replies to Belen (Ericsson) and Chia-Lin (MediaTek)
Chia-Lin (MediaTek) provides comments and still considers the CR is not needed
Dongeun (Samsung) replies to Chia-Lin (MediaTek)
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Chia-Lin (MediaTek) suggest to note the CR
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Noted
6.6 S2-2108562 CR Approval 23.503 CR0677 (Rel-16, 'A'): Clarifications on SSC mode 3 Samsung Rel-16 Noted Dongeun (Samsung) provides r01
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Noted
6.6 S2-2108584 CR Approval 23.503 CR0679 (Rel-17, 'A'): Clarifications on SSC mode 3 Samsung Rel-17 Noted Dongeun (Samsung) provides r01
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Noted
6.6 S2-2108902 CR Approval 23.502 CR3305 (Rel-16, 'F'): Selecting the same PCF for all UE PDU Sessions to a DNN, S-NSSAI when SSC mode 3 applies Ericsson Rel-16 Noted Susan (Huawei) provides comments and don't think this CR is needed.
Dongeun (Samsung) comments.
Belen (Ericsson) states that the CR is needed to cover the case of SMF relocation and same PCF.
Susan (Huawei) replies and is not convinced why the changes in this CR are needed.
Belen (Ericsson) responds to Samsung
Dongeun (Samsung) comments again.
Belen (Ericsson) replies to Samsung and Huawei
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Belen (Ericsson) aks if r00 is acceptable by Samsung and Huawei
Dongeu (Samsung) suggests to postpone the CR.
Susan (Huawei) replies to Belen (Ericsson) and asks questions for clarification.
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Noted
6.6 S2-2108903 CR Approval 23.502 CR3306 (Rel-17, 'A'): Selecting the same PCF for all UE PDU Sessions to a DNN, S-NSSAI when SSC mode 3 applies Ericsson Rel-17 Noted Susan (Huawei) provides comments and don't think this CR is needed.
Belen (Ericsson) states that the CR is needed to cover the case of SMF relocation and same PCF.
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Noted
6.6 S2-2108913 CR Approval 23.502 CR3308 (Rel-17, 'F'): SM policy association in SSC mode #3 NTT DOCOMO Rel-17 Noted Susan (Huawei) provides comments and don't think this CR is needed.
Pallab (Nokia) requests for clarification.
Belen (Ericsson) provides comments
Riccardo (NTT DOCOMO) replies to Susan, provides revision 1 and clarifies the need for it.
Riccardo (NTT DOCOMO) replies to Pallab.
Riccardo (NTT DOCOMO) replies to Belen.
Pallab (Nokia) replies to Riccardo (NTT DOCOMO) and asks for further clarification.
Riccardo (NTT DOCOMO) replies to Pallab (Nokia).
Susan (Huawei) replies to Riccardo.
Pallab (Nokia) responds to Riccardo (NTT DOCOMO) and still not convinced that the CR is needed.
Riccardo (NTT DOCOMO) replies to Susan.
Riccardo (NTT DOCOMO) responds to Pallab (Nokia).
Pallab (Nokia) responds to Riccardo (NTT DOCOMO) and proposes to NOTE the CR.
Riccardo (NTT DOCOMO) asks clarifications to Pallab (Nokia)
Pallab (Nokia) responds to Riccardo (NTT DOCOMO).
Belen (Ericsson) replies to DOCOMO and also thinks the CR can be POSTPONE
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Noted
6.6 S2-2108914 CR Approval 23.503 CR0690 (Rel-17, 'F'): SM policy association in SSC mode #3 NTT DOCOMO Rel-17 Noted Susan (Huawei) provides comments and don't think this CR is needed.
Pallab (Nokia) has same comments as in 8913
Riccardo (NTT DOCOMO) replies to Susan and clarify the need for this CR.
Riccardo (NTT DOCOMO) replied in the 8913 thread.
Pallab (Nokia) proposes to NOTE the CR as commented in 8913
Riccardo (NTT DOCOMO) commented in 8913
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Noted
6.6 S2-2108736 CR Approval 23.503 CR0685 (Rel-17, 'D'): Alignment of PCC input parameter documentation Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Approved Agreed
6.6 S2-2108649 CR Approval 23.503 CR0683 (Rel-16, 'F'): Clarifications on Support for Application Functions supporting Rx interface Samsung Rel-16 Approved Agreed
6.6 S2-2108663 CR Approval 23.503 CR0684 (Rel-17, 'A'): Clarifications on Support for Application Functions supporting Rx interface Samsung Rel-17 Approved Agreed
6.6 S2-2108420 CR Approval 23.502 CR3234 (Rel-17, 'F'): BSF service update for session binding information update China Mobile Rel-17 Noted Pallab (Nokia) requests for clarification
Dan (China Mobile) provide response
Belen (Ericsson) asks questions for clarification
Pallab (Nokia) responds to Dan (China Mobile)
Dan (China Mobile) responds to Pallab and Belen
Pallab (Nokia) responds to Dan (China Mobile) and questions the need for the CR
Dan (China Mobile) reply
Pallab (Nokia) requests for further clarification
Dan (China Mobile) response
Pallab (Nokia) comments and proposes to NOTE the CR
Dan (China Mobile) response and suggest whether we can endorse this one
Belen (Ericsson) proposes to NOTE or POSTPONE this CR
Belen (Ericsson) replies to Dan
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Noted
6.6 S2-2108421 CR Approval 23.503 CR0673 (Rel-17, 'F'): BSF service update for session binding information update China Mobile Rel-17 Noted Pallab (Nokia) has same comments as in 8420
Pallab (Nokia) proposes to NOTE the CR as commented in 8420
dan (China mobile) proposes whether we can endorse this one and see further update in next emeeting
Belen (Ericsson) supports to NOTE or POSTPONE this CR, it cannot accept to endorse it
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Noted
6.7 - - - 3GPP access specific functionality and flows - - Docs:=5 -
6.7 S2-2108375 CR Approval 23.501 CR3367 (Rel-17, 'F'): NG-RAN location report clarification in RRC Inactive Ericsson Rel-17 Approved Agreed
6.7 S2-2108376 CR Approval 23.502 CR3229 (Rel-17, 'F'): NG-RAN location report clarification in RRC Inactive Ericsson Rel-17 Approved Agreed
6.7 S2-2108377 CR Approval 23.401 CR3669R1 (Rel-17, 'C'): ACL support for S1 HO with Indirect Data Forwarding Ericsson, Deutsche Telekom Rel-17 Revision of (Noted) S2-2107770 from S2#147E. Noted Fenqin (Huawei) suggest to postpone this paper.
Laurent (Nokia): has concerns with the approach in this Tdoc
Juan Zhang (Qualcomm) shares the same concern with Laurent (Nokia).
Qian (Ericsson) provides comments and asks quesitons.
Fenqin (Huawei) shares the same view as Juan and Laurent.
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Laurent (Nokia): objects to any version of this Tdoc
Fenqin (Huawei): Propose to note this paper
Juan Zhang (Qualcomm) Proposes to note this paper
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Noted
6.7 S2-2108378 CR Approval 23.502 CR3218R1 (Rel-17, 'C'): ACL support for NGAP HO with Indirect Data Forwarding Ericsson, Deutsche Telekom Rel-17 Revision of (Noted) S2-2107771 from S2#147E. Noted Fenqin (Huawei) suggest to postpone this paper.
Laurent (Nokia): has concerns with the approach in this Tdoc
Juan Zhang (Qualcomm) shares the same concern with Laurent (Nokia).
Qian (Ericsson) provides comments and asks question.
Fenqin (Huawei) share the same view as Laurent and Juan
Juan Zhang (Qualcomm) replies to Qian (Ericsson)
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Laurent (Nokia): objects to any version of this Tdoc
Fenqin (Huawei): Propose to note this paper
Juan Zhang (Qualcomm) Proposes to note this paper
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Noted
6.7 S2-2109008 LS In Action LS on indication of direct data forwarding availability RAN WG3 (R3-216176) Rel-16 Postponed Qian (Ericsson) proposes to Postpone the paper since no contribution submitted on this in the meeting
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Postponed
6.8 - - - Specific services support - - Docs:=2 -
6.8 S2-2108869 CR Approval 23.502 CR3301 (Rel-17, 'F'): TAU with active flag in case the entire PDU session is rejected Qualcomm Incorporated Rel-17 r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109033. Hannu (Nokia) asks question to understand what is being proposed and suggests that a revision would be needed to clarify when the new text applies?
Haris(Qualcomm) provides r01
Hannu (Nokia) replies to Haris and provides r02
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Qian (Ericsson) prefer r01
Hannu (Nokia) can either agree r02 or postpone the CR. The previous revisions are not acceptable as they do not work.
Qian (Ericsson) comments.
Haris(Qualcomm) commments
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Hannu (Nokia) thanks Haris for explanation. I still prefer r01 but based on your explanation I can now live with r02 which leads to the correct outcome even if the reader of the QoS flow rejection text fails to see the new text added in this CR.
Revised
6.8 S2-2109033 CR Approval 23.502 CR3301R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): TAU with active flag in case the entire PDU session is rejected Qualcomm Incorporated Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108869r02. Approved Agreed
6.9 - - - Interworking and Migration - - Docs:=6 -
6.9 S2-2108303 CR Approval 23.501 CR3355 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on mobility from NG-RAN to GERAN/UTRAN Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Confirm CR Number - CR states 3335! Postponed Qian (Ericsson) provides comments and express concerns.
Alessio(Nokia) provides r01
Alessio(Nokia) hopes r01 clarified the questions by Ericsson
Qian (Ericsson) provides further comments
Qian (Ericsson) comments
alessio (nokia) comments
Qian (Ericsson) responds
Alessio(Nokia) comments
Qian (Ericsson) comments further
Haris(Qualcomm) re 'providing UE service' asks if there are implications in T-ADS if we don't approve the CR
Qian (Ericsson) responds to Haris (Qualcomm)
Fenqin (Huawei) share the similar view as Qian
alessio(nokia) asks a question
alessio(Nokia) requests to escalate this to CC#2 if ericsson does not graciously agree that SR applies when the UE moves to 2/3G.
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Alessio (Nokia) proposes to mark this as postponed as clearly this is not approvable at this meeting. we will work offline with interested companies till SA2#149e
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Postponed
6.9 S2-2108624 CR Approval 23.502 CR3265 (Rel-16, 'F'): EPS fallback for a UE moving from EPS to 5GS with a bearer for IMS voice . Samsung Rel-16 Noted Zhendong (ZTE): provides the comments
Qian (Ericsson) asks questions
Alessio(Nokia) agrees with ZTE we can note this CR as the scenario that underlies it is incorrect.
Haris(Qualcomm) proposes to note the CR
Myungjune (LGE) proposes to note the CR
DongYeon (Samsung) replies to Zhendong (ZTE), Qian (Ericsson), Alessio (Nokia), Haris (Qualcomm), and Myungjune (LGE).
Fenqin (Huawei) comments
DongYeon (Samsung) replies to Fenqin (Huawei).
Fenqin (Huawei) responds.
Myungjune (LGE) comments
DongYeon (Samsung) provides r01, and r02 as way forward.
Myungjune (LGE) comments on r01/r02
DongYeon (Samsung) provides r03 above r01, and replies to Myungjune (LGE).
Myungjune (LGE) proposes to note this CR
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DongYeon (Samsung) asks if we can agree Rel-17 CR(S2-2108625r01) with updated as same as S2-2108624r03, and provides S2-2108625r01.
Qian (Ericsson) supports to NOTE the paper.
DongYeon (Samsung) proposes to postpone this CR.
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Noted
6.9 S2-2108625 CR Approval 23.502 CR3266 (Rel-17, 'A'): EPS fallback for a UE moving from EPS to 5GS with a bearer for IMS voice . Samsung Rel-17 Noted DongYeon (Samsung) asks if we can agree Rel-17 CR(S2-2108625r01) with updated as same as S2-2108624r03, and provides S2-2108625r01.
Myungjune (LGE) comments
Qian (LGE) comments and suggests to NOTE the paper.
Qian (Ericsson) comments and suggests to NOTE the paper. Qian also indicates the source should be 'Ericsson' in previous comment (instead of LGE).
DongYeon (Samsung) asks if we can agree r01 with update the if not approved field as: Voice calls served by the EPS fallback can be dropped when the UE goes into idle mode and the UE comes back to 5GS.
DongYeon (Samsung) asks if we can agree r01 with update the if not approved field as: Voice calls served by the EPS fallback can be dropped when the UE goes into idle mode and the UE comes back to 5GS and, revise the note as: The E-UTRAN can be configured to set a longer timer for the UE with a dedicated bearer for IMS voice, so that the UE does not become RRC_IDLE.
DongYeon (Samsung) comments.
Myungjune (LGE) propose to Note this CR
Qian (Ericsson) provides comments.
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Noted
6.9 S2-2108631 DISCUSSION Agreement Discussion on EPS fallback for a UE moving from EPS to 5GS with a bearer for IMS voice. Samsung Noted Alessio(Nokia) proposes to note this paper with a remark the described scenario seems unclear and actually not something Nokia believes can happen and deserve handling.
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Noted
6.9 S2-2108677 CR Approval 23.502 CR3272 (Rel-17, 'F'): Tunnel info release for inter system mobility with N26 Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109034. Qian (Ericsson) provides comments
Fenqin (Huawei) responds
Qian (Ericsson) provides further comments
alessio(Nokia) requests to note this CR and all is revisions
Fenqin (Huawei) responds and provides r01
Alessio(nokia) thinks r01 also is not agreeable.
Fenqin (Huawei) responds and provides r02
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Fenqin (Huawei) suggest to go with r02
Qian (Ericsson) is ok with r02
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Revised
6.9 S2-2109034 CR Approval 23.502 CR3272R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Tunnel info release for inter system mobility with N26 Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108677r02. Approved Agreed
6.10 - - - Non-3GPP access specific functionality and flows - - Docs:=15 -
6.10 S2-2108728 CR Approval 23.501 CR3419 (Rel-16, 'F'): R16 23.501 Clarification on security mechanism applied for non-3GPP access Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-16 Noted Stefano (Qualcomm) suggests noting this paper since it is not FASMO
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Laurent (Nokia): we support stefano (non FASMO) and object to any version of this tdoc
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Noted
6.10 S2-2108729 CR Approval 23.501 CR3420 (Rel-17, 'A'): R17 23.501 Clarification on security mechanism applied for non-3GPP access Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Noted Stefano (Qualcomm) suggests noting this paper since it is not FASMO
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Laurent (Nokia): we support Stefano (non FASMO) and object to any version of this tdoc
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Noted
6.10 S2-2108733 CR Approval 23.502 CR3282 (Rel-17, 'A'): Correction on handover procedure and non-3GPP access Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Noted Laurent (Nokia): Suggests to merge this typos correction in 8927 that updates the same clauses
Marco (Huawei): we prefer to keep separate since the scope is different even if they modify the same clause and the change are not overallaping
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6.10 S2-2108734 CR Approval 23.502 CR3283 (Rel-16, 'F'): Correction on handover procedure and non-3GPP access Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-16 Noted Laurent (Nokia): Suggests to merge this typo corrections in 8927 that updates the same clauses
Apostolis (Lenovo) comments that this CR corrects editorial errors and could be merged into 8926.
Hualin (Huawei) disagree to merge and question why changes in the same clause should be merged?
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Laurent (Nokia): objects to this Typo correction in a frozen release (I suggested to merge...)
Hualin(Huawei) question why Typo correction can' be correct.
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Noted
6.10 S2-2108860 CR Approval 23.501 CR3441 (Rel-16, 'F'): Layer below IPsec to enable NAT traversal for TNGF/N3IWF access Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Lenovo, Motorola Mobility, Rel-16 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109035. Marco (Huawei) comments and provides r01
Fenqin (Huawei) provides r01 with an attempt to merge suggestion from 8977r01
Thomas (Nokia) comments that new version is incomplete and split into two versions not possible
suggest to focus the discussion in the 8977 thread
Laurent (Nokia): warns for a thread mismatch
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6.10 S2-2109035 CR Approval 23.501 CR3441R1 (Rel-16, 'F'): Layer below IPsec to enable NAT traversal for TNGF/N3IWF access Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Lenovo, Motorola Mobility, Rel-16 Revision of S2-2108860r01. Approved Agreed
6.10 S2-2108861 CR Approval 23.501 CR3442 (Rel-17, 'A'): Layer below IPsec to enable NAT traversal for TNGF/N3IWF access Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Lenovo, Motorola Mobility, Rel-17 r00 agreed. Revised to S2-2109036. Revised
6.10 S2-2109036 CR Approval 23.501 CR3442R1 (Rel-17, 'A'): Layer below IPsec to enable NAT traversal for TNGF/N3IWF access Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Lenovo, Motorola Mobility, Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108861r00. Approved Agreed
6.10 S2-2108862 CR Approval 23.502 CR3298 (Rel-16, 'F'): Layer below IPsec to enable NAT traversal for TNGF/N3IWF access Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Lenovo, Motorola Mobility, Rel-16 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109037. Stefan (Ericsson) provides r01
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6.10 S2-2109037 CR Approval 23.502 CR3298R1 (Rel-16, 'F'): Layer below IPsec to enable NAT traversal for TNGF/N3IWF access Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Lenovo, Motorola Mobility, Rel-16 Revision of S2-2108862r01. Approved Agreed
6.10 S2-2108863 CR Approval 23.502 CR3299 (Rel-17, 'A'): Layer below IPsec to enable NAT traversal for TNGF/N3IWF access Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Lenovo, Motorola Mobility, Rel-17 r00 agreed. Revised to S2-2109038. Revised
6.10 S2-2109038 CR Approval 23.502 CR3299R1 (Rel-17, 'A'): Layer below IPsec to enable NAT traversal for TNGF/N3IWF access Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Lenovo, Motorola Mobility, Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108863r00. Approved Agreed
6.10 S2-2108925 DISCUSSION Discussion Corrections to to procedures for Handover of a PDU Session between 3GPP and untrusted non-3GPP access. Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Noted Noted
6.10 S2-2108926 CR Approval 23.502 CR3310 (Rel-16, 'F'): Corrections to procedures for Handover of a PDU Session between 3GPP and untrusted non-3GPP access Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-16 Approved Agreed
6.10 S2-2108927 CR Approval 23.502 CR3311 (Rel-17, 'A'): Corrections to Handover of a PDU Session procedure between 3GPP and untrusted non-3GPP access Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Confirm CR Number - CR states 3310! Approved Laurent (Nokia): provides r01
Apostolis (Lenovo) notes that is a mirror to 8926 but it has a different title than 8926.
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Agreed
6.11 - - - Framework functions - - Docs:=4 -
6.11 S2-2108316 CR Approval 23.502 CR3221 (Rel-15, 'F'): Missing UDM service operations Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-15 Noted Fenqin (Huawei) Propose to note this paper.
Pallab (Nokia) responds to Fenqin (Huawei)
Pallab (Nokia) OK to NOTE the CR. The corresponding mirror from R17 will be changed to Cat F
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Noted
6.11 S2-2108317 CR Approval 23.502 CR3222 (Rel-16, 'A'): Missing UDM service operations (Mirror) Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-16 Noted Fenqin (Huawei) Propose to note this paper.
Pallab (Nokia) OK to NOTE the CR. The corresponding mirror from R17 will be changed to Cat F
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Noted
6.11 S2-2108318 CR Approval 23.502 CR3223 (Rel-17, 'A'): Missing UDM service operations (Mirror) Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109039. Fenqin (Huawei) Propose to update this paper.
Pallab (Nokia) provides r01 with cover page changes only. CR category changed from A to F as related R15/16 CRs are not agreed.
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Revised
6.11 S2-2109039 CR Approval 23.502 CR3223R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Missing UDM service operations Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108318r01. Approved Agreed
7 - - - Rel-16 Maintenance for 5G (excluding 5GS_Ph1 - - Docs:=0 -
7.1 - - - Architecture enhancements for 3GPP support of advanced V2X services (eV2XARC) - - Docs:=8 -
7.1 S2-2108340 CR Approval 23.287 CR0170 (Rel-17, 'F'): V2X Policy provisioning request Ericsson Rel-17 Noted LaeYoung (LGE) proposes to discuss this issue first under AI#8.8 with the related tdocs to derive agreement/outcome.
Belen (Ericsson) agrees with LGE proposal
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LaeYoung (LGE) proposes to NOTE this CR at this stage. If some updates are deemed necessary, let's do it in the next meeting.
Belen (Ericsson) replies to LGE that if no conclusion is reached on this topic all related CRs should be noted.
LaeYoung (LGE) responds to Belen (Ericsson).
LaeYoung (LGE) replies to Belen (Ericsson).
Leo (Deutsche Telekom) agrees to to NOTE this CR at this stage. When necessary, it can be done in the next meeting
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Noted
7.1 S2-2108581 CR Approval 23.287 CR0174 (Rel-17, 'F'): UE Policy Container with V2X Policy Provisioning Request OPPO Rel-17 Noted LaeYoung (LGE) proposes to discuss this issue first under AI#8.8 with the related tdocs to derive agreement/outcome.
Fei (OPPO) is fine to discuss this issue in AI#8.8 first.
Steve (Huawei) comments on relationship with discussion in S2-2108284.
LaeYoung (LGE) answers to Steve (Huawei).
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LaeYoung (LGE) proposes to NOTE this CR at this stage. If some updates are deemed necessary, let's do it in the next meeting.
Leo (Deutsche Telekom) agrees to to NOTE this CR at this stage. When necessary, let's do it in the next meeting.
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Noted
7.1 S2-2108415 CR Approval 23.502 CR3233 (Rel-17, 'F'): Update to Nnrf_NFManagement_NFRegister service operation Ericsson Rel-17 r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109040. Steve (Huawei) asks questions
LaeYoung (LGE) provides r01.
Judy (Ericsson) provides r02 based on r00+'may' and responds to LaeYoung (LGE) and Steve (Huawei)
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LaeYoung (LGE) is fine with r02.
Steve (Huawei) is ok with r02.
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Revised
7.1 S2-2109040 CR Approval 23.502 CR3233R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Update to Nnrf_NFManagement_NFRegister service operation Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108415r02. Approved Agreed
7.1 S2-2108673 CR Approval 23.287 CR0175 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction to UE triggered Policy provisioning Procedure for V2X Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Covered by S2-2108392 LaeYoung (LGE) proposes to merge this CR into S2-2108392 (Ericsson).
Judy (Ericsson) support LaeYoung (LGE)'s proposal and comment this is a mirror CR
LiMeng (Huawei) agrees with the merging proposal.
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7.1 S2-2108674 CR Approval 23.287 CR0176 (Rel-16, 'F'): Correction to UE triggered Policy provisioning Procedure for V2X Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-16 Covered by S2-2108391 LaeYoung (LGE) proposes to merge this CR into S2-2108391 (Ericsson).
Judy (Ericsson) support LaeYoung (LGE)'s proposal to merge this paper to 8391 and comments
LiMeng (Huawei) is fine with the merging proposal.
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7.1 S2-2108391 CR Approval 23.287 CR0171 (Rel-16, 'F'): Correction to UE triggered Policy provisioning Procedure Ericsson Rel-16 Approved Agreed
7.1 S2-2108392 CR Approval 23.287 CR0172 (Rel-17, 'A'): Correction to UE triggered Policy provisioning Procedure Ericsson Rel-17 Approved Agreed
7.2 - - - Wireless and Wireline Convergence for the 5G system architecture (5WWC) - - Docs:=14 -
7.2 S2-2108290 LS In Information LS from BBF: Reply to your liaison S2-2106577 BBF (LIAISE-474) Response drafted in S2-2108362. Final response in S2-2109041 Replied to
7.2 S2-2108362 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] Reply LS on MTU and other topics Ericsson Rel-17 Response to S2-2108290. r00 agreed. Revised to S2-2109041. Revised
7.2 S2-2109041 LS OUT Approval Reply LS on MTU and other topics SA WG2 Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108362r00. Approved Approved
7.2 S2-2108361 CR Approval 23.316 CR2061 (Rel-17, 'F'): MTU value for wireline access Ericsson Rel-17 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109042. Laurent (Nokia): provides r01
Stefan (Ericsson) is OK with r01
Marco (Huawei) provides r02
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Laurent (Nokia): I MUCH prefer r01 and have issues with r02 and r00 that are too limitative
Stefan (Ericsson) suggest to agree r01
Marco (Huawei) I prefer r02 but I can survive to r01
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Revised
7.2 S2-2109042 CR Approval 23.316 CR2061R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): MTU value for wireline access Ericsson, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108361r01. Approved Agreed
7.2 S2-2108299 LS in Information LS from BBF: EAP-5G changes BBF (LIAISE-477) Response drafted in S2-2108363. Final response in S2-2109043 Replied to
7.2 S2-2108363 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] Reply LS on EAP-5G changes Ericsson Rel-17 Response to S2-2108299. r00 agreed. Revised to S2-2109043. Marco (Huawei) provides comments and r01
Apostolis (Lenovo) asks questions on r01
Marco (Huawei) answers to Apostolis (Lenovo)
Stefan (Ericsson) comments
Marco answers to Stefan (Ericsson) and Apostolis (Lenovo)
Stefan (Ericsson) provides r02, but prefers r00
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Revised
7.2 S2-2109043 LS OUT Approval Reply LS on EAP-5G changes SA WG2 Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108363r00. Approved Approved
7.2 S2-2108833 CR Approval 23.502 CR3294 (Rel-16, 'F'): Providing UE's address to AMF during registration via trusted Non-3GPP access Lenovo, Motorola Mobility, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Broadcom Rel-16 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109044. Marco (Huawei) asks clarification
Apostolis (Lenovo) responds to Marco (Huawei).
Stefan (Ericsson) provides r01
Apostolis (Lenovo) is fine with r01
Marco (Huawei) comments further Apostolis (Lenovo) is fine with r01
Errata Corrige last comment: Marco (Huawei) comments further Apostolis (Lenovo)
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7.2 S2-2109044 CR Approval 23.502 CR3294R1 (Rel-16, 'F'): Providing UE's address to AMF during registration via trusted Non-3GPP access Lenovo, Motorola Mobility, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Broadcom, Ericsson Rel-16 Revision of S2-2108833r01. Approved Agreed
7.2 S2-2108848 CR Approval 23.502 CR3295 (Rel-17, 'A'): Providing UE's address to AMF during registration via trusted Non-3GPP access Lenovo, Motorola Mobility, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Broadcom Rel-17 r00 agreed. Revised to S2-2109045. Apostolis (Lenovo) provides r01.
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7.2 S2-2109045 CR Approval 23.502 CR3295R1 (Rel-17, 'A'): Providing UE's address to AMF during registration via trusted Non-3GPP access Lenovo, Motorola Mobility, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Broadcom, Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108848r00. Approved Agreed
7.2 S2-2108929 CR Approval 23.316 CR2062 (Rel-17, 'F'): Applicability of ATSSS to 5G-RG in Rel-17 Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109046. Apostolis (Lenovo) asks for clarification.
Marco (Huawei) answers to Apostolis (Lenovo)
Stefan (Ericsson) provides comments
Marco (Huawei) answers to Stefan (Ericsson)
Stefan (Ericsson) replies to Marco and provides r01
Marco (Huawei) replies to Stefan (Ericsson)
Apostolis (Lenovo) asks questions.
Marco (Huawei) answers to Apostolis (Lenovo).
Apostolis (Lenovo) asks question for clarification.
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Revised
7.2 S2-2109046 CR Approval 23.316 CR2062R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Applicability of ATSSS to 5G-RG in Rel-17 Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108929r01. Approved Agreed
7.3 - - - Access Traffic Steering, Switch and Splitting support in the 5G system architecture (ATSSS) - - Docs:=2 -
7.3 S2-2108732 CR Approval 23.501 CR3423 (Rel-16, 'F'): Correction on PMF protocol stack for non-3GPP access Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-16 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109047. Dario S. Tonesi (Qualcomm) asks if this is a FASMO CR and why?
Hualin(Huawei) replied to Dario S. Tonesi (Qualcomm).
Dario (Qualcomm) asks about mirror Rel-17 CR agreed in October currently marked as Cat. F
Marco (Huawei) answer to Dario (Qualcomm)
Dario (Qualcomm) replies to Marco.
Marco (Huawei) agreed to approve this R16 and to proposed a revision of last meeting approved R17 to align and to make CR 'A' directly to SA plenary as company contribution
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7.3 S2-2109047 CR Approval 23.501 CR3423R1 (Rel-16, 'F'): Correction on PMF protocol stack for non-3GPP access Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-16 Revision of S2-2108732r01. Approved Agreed
7.4 - - - Cellular IoT support and evolution for the 5G System (5G_CIoT) - - Docs:=0 -
7.5 - - - Enablers for Network Automation for 5G (eNA) - - Docs:=4 -
7.5 S2-2108531 CR Approval 23.288 CR0473 (Rel-16, 'F'): Add the description of Wrong destination address Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-16 r04 agreed. Revised to S2-2109048. Zhang (Ericsson) ask for clarification
Wang Yuan (Huawei) replies to Zhang(Ericsson).
Zhang (Ericsson) ask further clarification
Yannick (Nokia): Nokia provides comments.
Wang Yuan (Huawei) replies to Zhang(Ericsson)/Yannick(Nokia) and provides r01.
Yannick (Nokia): Nokia questions the change in r01.
Wang Yuan (Huawei) replies to Zhang(Ericsson) and Yannick (Nokia), and provides r02.
Zhang (Ericsson) provides comments
Wang Yuan (Huawei) replies to Zhang(Ericsson), and provides r04.
Zhang (Ericsson) is OK with r04
Yannick (Nokia): Nokia is ok with r04 but also understands that the use case of wrong destination address detection is not fully specified in TS 23.288.
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Wang Yuan (Huawei) replies to Zhang(Ericsson)/Yannick(Nokia).
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Revised
7.5 S2-2109048 CR Approval 23.288 CR0473R1 (Rel-16, 'F'): Add the description of Wrong destination address Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-16 Revision of S2-2108531r04. Approved Agreed
7.5 S2-2108532 CR Approval 23.288 CR0474 (Rel-17, 'A'): Add the description of Wrong destination address Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 r00 agreed. Revised to S2-2109049. Wang Yuan (Huawei) provides r01 (the mirror CR) based on S2-2108531r04.
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7.5 S2-2109049 CR Approval 23.288 CR0474R1 (Rel-17, 'A'): Add the description of Wrong destination address Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108532r00. Approved Agreed
7.6 - - - Enhancement to the 5GC Location Services (5G_eLCS) - - Docs:=26 -
7.6 S2-2108354 CR Approval 23.273 CR0193R2 (Rel-16, 'F'): Clarification on use of service type and service identity in MO-LR procedure Ericsson Rel-16 Revision of (Endorsed) S2-2107864 from S2#147E. r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109050. Yunjing (CATT) provides r01.
Cai Simon (Nokia) provides comments
Runze (Huawei) supports Simon(Nokia)'s View
Åke (Ericsson) provides clarification to Simon and Runze
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Cai Simon (Nokia) provides further comments
Stephen (Qualcomm) prefers the r01 and comments on Service Type vs Service Identity
Åke (Ericsson) Also prefers r01
Runze(Huawei)thanks Ake for the clarification, and supports r01.
Åke (Ericsson) supports r01
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Cai Simon (Nokia) prefers to note the CR
Revised
7.6 S2-2109050 CR Approval 23.273 CR0193R3 (Rel-16, 'F'): Clarification on use of service type and service identity in MO-LR procedure Ericsson Rel-16 Revision of S2-2108354r01. Approved Agreed
7.6 S2-2108355 CR Approval 23.273 CR0194R1 (Rel-17, 'A'): Clarification on use of service type and service identity in MO-LR procedure Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107125 from S2#147E. r00 agreed. Revised to S2-2109051. Revised
7.6 S2-2109051 CR Approval 23.273 CR0194R2 (Rel-17, 'A'): Clarification on use of service type and service identity in MO-LR procedure Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108355r00. Approved Agreed
7.6 S2-2108837 CR Approval 23.273 CR0214 (Rel-16, 'F'): Update MO-LR procedure Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-16 r04 agreed. Revised to S2-2109052. Åke (Ericsson) Comments CR is not needed.
Runze (Huawei) replies to Ake (Ericsson) and provides r01
Åke (Ericsson) Comments CR still not needed and r02 incorrect
Runze (Huawei) replies to Ake, and provides r03.
Åke (Ericsson) acknowledge need of clarification and provides r04
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7.6 S2-2109052 CR Approval 23.273 CR0214R1 (Rel-16, 'F'): Update MO-LR procedure Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-16 Revision of S2-2108837r04. Approved Agreed
7.6 S2-2108838 CR Approval 23.273 CR0215 (Rel-17, 'A'): Update MO-LR procedure Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 r00 agreed. Revised to S2-2109053. Revised
7.6 S2-2109053 CR Approval 23.273 CR0215R1 (Rel-17, 'A'): Update MO-LR procedure Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108838r00. Approved Agreed
7.6 S2-2108356 CR Approval 23.273 CR0203 (Rel-16, 'F'): Remove SUPI in response to Nudm_SDM Ericsson Rel-16 Approved Agreed
7.6 S2-2108357 CR Approval 23.273 CR0204 (Rel-17, 'A'): Remove SUPI in response to Nudm_SDM Ericsson Rel-17 Approved Agreed
7.6 S2-2108751 CR Approval 23.273 CR0207 (Rel-16, 'F'): Correct the allowed access type for event report CATT Rel-16 Approved Agreed
7.6 S2-2108752 CR Approval 23.273 CR0208 (Rel-17, 'A'): Correct the allowed access type for event report CATT Rel-17 Approved Agreed
7.6 S2-2108754 CR Approval 23.273 CR0210 (Rel-16, 'F'): Update the location service operations to add service identity and service type CATT Rel-16 Confirm Specification Number - CR states 23.502!. Confirm Spec version used - CR states 16.10.0! r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109054. Åke (Ericsson) provides r01
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7.6 S2-2109054 CR Approval 23.502 CR3315 (Rel-16, 'F'): Update the location service operations to add service identity and service type CATT, Ericsson Rel-16 Revision of S2-2108754r01. Approved Agreed
7.6 S2-2108755 CR Approval 23.273 CR0211 (Rel-17, 'A'): Update the location service operations to add service identity and service type CATT Rel-17 Confirm Specification Number - CR states 23.502! Revised to S2-2109055. Revised
7.6 S2-2109055 CR Approval 23.502 CR3316 (Rel-17, 'A'): Update the location service operations to add service identity and service type CATT Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108755. Approved Agreed
7.6 S2-2108835 CR Approval 23.273 CR0212 (Rel-16, 'F'): Replacing NR-RAN with ng-eNB in case of EDT reporting of LCS event Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-16 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109056. Stephen (Qualcomm) provides comments and an r01
Åke (Ericsson) Support r01 provided by Qualcomm
Stephen (Qualcomm) provide a correction for AI#7.6
Runze (Huawei) supports R01.
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7.6 S2-2109056 CR Approval 23.273 CR0212R1 (Rel-16, 'F'): Replacing NR-RAN with ng-eNB in case of EDT reporting of LCS event Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-16 Revision of S2-2108835r01. Approved Agreed
7.6 S2-2108836 CR Approval 23.273 CR0213 (Rel-17, 'A'): Replacing NR-RAN with ng-eNB in case of EDT reporting of LCS event Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 WI Code should be 5G_eLCS for mirror CR. r00 agreed. Revised to S2-2109057. Revised
7.6 S2-2109057 CR Approval 23.273 CR0213R1 (Rel-17, 'A'): Replacing NR-RAN with ng-eNB in case of EDT reporting of LCS event Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108836r00. Approved Agreed
7.6 S2-2108839 CR Approval 23.273 CR0216 (Rel-16, 'F'): Clarification on support of SNPN for R16 LCS Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-16 CC#2: Noted Yunjing (CATT) provides comments.
Josep (DT) comments.
Walter Dees (Philips) requests clarification
Yunjing (CATT) replies to Walter Dees (Philips).
Stephen (Qualcomm) provides comments
Josep (DT) objects to this CR.
Runze (Huawei) replies to Josep.
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Josep (DT) replies that there is no problem to solve for R16.
Cai Simon (Nokia) agrees with Stephen (Qualcomm) for precise R17 only statement
Runze (Huawei) proposes a revision, and the content aligns with the R17 CR 2108753r05
Yunjing (CATT) is fine with r01.
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7.6 S2-2108840 CR Approval 23.273 CR0217 (Rel-17, 'A'): Clarification on support of SNPN for R16 LCS Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 CC#2: Noted Josep (DT) objects to this (mirror) CR.
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Runze (Huawei) proposes to merge this CR into S2-2108357.
Yunjing (CATT) is fine to merge this CR into S2-2108753.
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7.6 S2-2108843 CR Approval 23.273 CR0219 (Rel-16, 'F'): Removal of description that LMF ID is provided by UE Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-16 r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109058. Åke (Ericsson) Suggest CR not needed
Runze (Huawei) replies to Ake.
Stephen (Qualcomm) provides comments
Runze (Huawei) provides r01
Stephen (Qualcomm) can agree the r01
Åke (Ericsson) Provide r02 with editorial improvements
Runze (Huawei) agrees with R02
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7.6 S2-2109058 CR Approval 23.273 CR0219R1 (Rel-16, 'F'): Removal of description that LMF ID is provided by UE Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-16 Revision of S2-2108843r02. Approved Agreed
7.6 S2-2108844 CR Approval 23.273 CR0220 (Rel-17, 'A'): Removal of description that LMF ID is provided by UE Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 r00 agreed. Revised to S2-2109059. Revised
7.6 S2-2109059 CR Approval 23.273 CR0220R1 (Rel-17, 'A'): Removal of description that LMF ID is provided by UE Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108844r00. Approved Agreed
7.7 - - - 5GS Enhanced support of Vertical and LAN Services (Vertical_LAN) - - Docs:=31 -
7.7 S2-2108307 CR Approval 23.501 CR3356 (Rel-16, 'F'): Deletion of selected enrties in UMIC/PMIC data structures Intel, NTT DOCOMO Rel-16 r03 agreed. Revised to S2-2109060. Devaki (Nokia) comments and wonders if this CR is really FASMO for Rel-16?
Saso (Intel) replies to Devaki (Nokia); provides r01.
Sang-Jun (Samsung) asks for clarification whether S2-2107615 in reason for change is also applied to Rel-16.
Saso (Intel) replies to Sang-Jun (Samsung).
Sebastian (Qualcomm) comments
Saso (Intel) provides r02.
Zhendong (ZTE): ask qusetion for clarification
Saso (Intel) replie to Zhendong (ZTE); provides r03
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7.7 S2-2109060 CR Approval 23.501 CR3356R1 (Rel-16, 'F'): Deletion of selected enrties in UMIC/PMIC data structures Intel, NTT DOCOMO Rel-16 Revision of S2-2108307r03. Approved Agreed
7.7 S2-2108319 CR Approval 23.501 CR3360 (Rel-16, 'F'): Mapping TSCAI between TSN GM clock and 5GS clock NTT DOCOMO Rel-16 Noted Chunshan (Tencent) provides comments.
Devaki (Nokia) objects as this CR is NOT a FASMO CR, also proposal seems unnecessary.
Jari (NTT DOCOMO responds.
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) responds and disagrees with Devaki
Devaki (Nokia) replies.
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) responds to Devaki.
Chunshan (Tencent) responses to Jari (NTT DOCOMO) and comments that the proposed solution cannot work.
Chunshan (Tencent) response to Jari (NTT DOCOMO)
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) responds to Chunshan
Chunshan (Tencent) asks Jari (NTT DOCOMO) to check further.
Sebastian (Qualcomm) comments
Chunshan (Tencent) responses to Sebastian (Qualcomm) comments.
Sebastian (Qualcomm) replies to Tencent
Chunshan (Tencent) responses to Sebastian (Qualcomm) .
Sebastian (Qualcomm) replies to Chunshan
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) replies to Chunshan
Chunshan (Tencent) responses to Jari (NTT DOCOMO) .
Shabnam (Ericsson) supports position explained by Qualcomm and DoCoMo delegates in this discussion.
Zhendong (ZTE): provides comments
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) replies to Zhendong
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Chunshan (Tencent) objects this CR and all revisions.
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) seeks clarification from Chunshan
Chunshan (Tencent) responses to Jari (NTT DOCOMO).
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) proposes to discuss this in CC#2, responds to Chunshan
Jari (NTT DOCOMO )responds to Chunshan
Chunshan (Tencent) responses inline to Jari (NTT DOCOMO) .
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) responds to Chunshan.
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7.7 S2-2108695 CR Approval 23.501 CR3414 (Rel-17, 'F'): Mapping TSCAI between TSN GM clock and 5GS clock NTT DOCOMO Rel-17 Noted Chunshan (Tencent) provides the same comments on the S2-2108319, let us discuss the same issues in S2-2108319.
Shabnam (Ericsson) provides r01, to add 'For TSN' in the newly added text.
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) comments
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) provides r02
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7.7 S2-2108321 CR Approval 23.502 CR3224 (Rel-16, 'F'): Mapping TSCAI between TSN GM clock and 5GS clock NTT DOCOMO Rel-16 Noted Chunshan (Tencent) provides the same comments on the S2-2108319, let us discuss the same issues in S2-2108319.
Devaki (Nokia) objects as this CR is NOT a FASMO CR, also proposal seems unnecessary. Same reason as for 8319
Shabnam (Ericsson) thinks it is useful clarification to have, specially seeing the discussion in parallel for 23.501 CR, which shows there is potential for error.
Shabnam (Ericsson) provides r01, correcting TSN working domain to TSN time domain in one place and cosigning.
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7.7 S2-2108323 CR Approval 23.502 CR3225 (Rel-17, 'A'): Mapping TSCAI between TSN GM clock and 5GS clock NTT DOCOMO Rel-17 Noted Devaki (Nokia) objects as this CR is NOT a FASMO CR, also proposal seems unnecessary also for Rel-17 in our view. Same reason as for 8319/21.
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) disagrees with Devaki, the same reason as for 8319/21.
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7.7 S2-2108459 CR Approval 23.502 CR3241 (Rel-16, 'F'): RID Update for SNPN UEs Ericsson Rel-16 r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109061. Devaki (Nokia) provides r01, supportive of the proposal.
Fei (OPPO) provides r02.
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides comment
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7.7 S2-2109061 CR Approval 23.502 CR3241R1 (Rel-16, 'F'): RID Update for SNPN UEs Ericsson, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, OPPO Rel-16 Revision of S2-2108459r02. Approved Agreed
7.7 S2-2108460 CR Approval 23.502 CR3242 (Rel-17, 'A'): RID Update for SNPN UEs Ericsson Rel-17 r00 agreed. Revised to S2-2109062. Devaki (Nokia) supports the CR, wish to cosign.
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides r01
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7.7 S2-2109062 CR Approval 23.502 CR3242R1 (Rel-17, 'A'): RID Update for SNPN UEs Ericsson, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, OPPO Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108460r00. Approved Agreed
7.7 S2-2108565 CR Approval 23.501 CR3392 (Rel-16, 'F'): Correction for CAG restrictions with emergency services Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-16 r04 agreed. Revised to S2-2109063. George Foti (Ericsson) provides r01. Minor clarifications and co-signed as well
Fei (OPPO) provides r02.
Devaki (Nokia) comments.
Qianghua (Huawei) provides r03
George (Ericsson) provides r04. Did some minor editorial linguistic changes. The sentence is too long.
Fei (OPPO) is fine with r04.
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7.7 S2-2109063 CR Approval 23.501 CR3392R1 (Rel-16, 'F'): Correction for CAG restrictions with emergency services Huawei, HiSilicon, Ericsson, OPPO, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-16 Revision of S2-2108565r04. Approved Agreed
7.7 S2-2108566 CR Approval 23.501 CR3393 (Rel-17, 'A'): Correction for CAG restrictions with emergency services Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 r00 agreed. Revised to S2-2109064. Revised
7.7 S2-2109064 CR Approval 23.501 CR3393R1 (Rel-17, 'A'): Correction for CAG restrictions with emergency services Huawei, HiSilicon, Ericsson, OPPO, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108566r00. Approved Agreed
7.7 S2-2108567 CR Approval 23.502 CR3255 (Rel-16, 'F'): Correction for CAG restrictions with emergency services Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-16 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109065. Devaki (Nokia) comments that this CR is not needed as existing Note 3 covers the scenario already.
Qianghua (Huawei) replies
Haris(Qualcomm) provides r01
Qianghua (Huawei) OK with r01
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7.7 S2-2109065 CR Approval 23.502 CR3255R1 (Rel-16, 'F'): Correction for CAG restrictions with emergency services Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-16 Revision of S2-2108567r01. Approved Agreed
7.7 S2-2108568 CR Approval 23.502 CR3256 (Rel-17, 'A'): Correction for CAG restrictions with emergency services Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 r00 agreed. Revised to S2-2109066. Devaki (Nokia) comments that this CR is not needed as existing Note 3 covers the scenario already. Same comment as 8567.
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7.7 S2-2109066 CR Approval 23.502 CR3256R1 (Rel-17, 'A'): Correction for CAG restrictions with emergency services Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108568r00. Approved Agreed
7.7 S2-2108846 CR Approval 23.501 CR3437 (Rel-16, 'F'): Adding AdminCycleTimeExtension and PSFPAdminCycleTimeExtension to PMIC Qualcomm Rel-16 Approved Devaki (Nokia) wonders if the CR is FASMO really as the added parameters are extension parameters and it could be added from Rel-17 only?
Sebastian (Qualcomm) explains why the CR is FASMO
Zhendong (ZTE): provides comments.
Sebastian (Qualcomm) replies to ZTE
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7.7 S2-2108864 CR Approval 23.501 CR3443 (Rel-17, 'A'): Adding AdminCycleTimeExtension and PSFPAdminCycleTimeExtension to PMIC Qualcomm Rel-17 Approved Agreed
7.7 S2-2108867 CR Approval 23.501 CR3444 (Rel-16, 'F'): Time conversion for Tick granularity and PSFPTickGranularity Qualcomm Rel-16 Postponed Chunshan (Tencent) have some questions.
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) proposes to note
Sebastian (Qualcomm) replies to Tencent
Chunshan (Tencent) responses to Sebastian (Qualcomm)
Sebastian (Qualcomm) replies to Jari and provides r01
Chunshan (Tencent) responses to Sebastian (Qualcomm).
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Devaki (Nokia) proposes to postpone the paper (objects to the revisions).
Sebastian (Qualcomm) replies to Nokia
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Postponed
7.7 S2-2108870 CR Approval 23.501 CR3445 (Rel-17, 'A'): Time conversion for Tick granularity and PSFPTickGranularity Qualcomm Rel-17 Postponed Postponed
7.7 S2-2108871 CR Approval 23.501 CR3446 (Rel-16, 'F'): Bridge delay calculation and TSCAI calculation if UE-DS-TT residence time has not been provided Qualcomm Incorporated Rel-16 r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109067. Devaki (Nokia) objects to the CR as assuming per UE configuration in the network would be wrong.
Sebastian (Qualcomm) responds to Nokia and clarifies that the CR does not propose per UE configuration
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) comments
Sebastian (Qualcomm) replies to NTT DOCOMO
Devaki (Nokia) replies.
Sebastian (Qualcomm) replies to Nokia
Sebastian (Qualcomm) replies and provides r01
Devaki (Nokia) fine with r01.
Zhendong (ZTE): provides comments
Qianghua (Huawei) comments
Sebastian (Qualcomm) replies to ZTE
Sebastian (Qualcomm) replies to Huawei and provides r02
Sebastian (Qualcomm) replies to Devaki
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7.7 S2-2109067 CR Approval 23.501 CR3446R1 (Rel-16, 'F'): Bridge delay calculation and TSCAI calculation if UE-DS-TT residence time has not been provided Qualcomm Incorporated Rel-16 Revision of S2-2108871r02. Approved Agreed
7.7 S2-2108872 CR Approval 23.501 CR3447 (Rel-17, 'A'): Bridge delay calculation and TSCAI calculation if UE-DS-TT residence time has not been provided Qualcomm Incorporated Rel-17 r00 agreed. Revised to S2-2109068. Devaki (Nokia) objects to the CR, same reason as 8871.
Sebastian (Qualcomm) provides r01
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7.7 S2-2109068 CR Approval 23.501 CR3447R1 (Rel-17, 'A'): Bridge delay calculation and TSCAI calculation if UE-DS-TT residence time has not been provided Qualcomm Incorporated Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108872r00. Approved Agreed
7.7 S2-2108873 CR Approval 23.502 CR3302 (Rel-16, 'F'): Include TSN time domain into bridge information reporting procedure Qualcomm Rel-16 r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109069. Devaki (Nokia) comments.
Sebastian (Qualcomm) provides r02 (please ignore r01)
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Devaki (Nokia) comments that chair notes should be updated to ask 'r02 for approval'.
Sebastian (Qualcomm) confirms that r02 should be marked for approval
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7.7 S2-2109069 CR Approval 23.502 CR3302R1 (Rel-16, 'F'): Include TSN time domain into bridge information reporting procedure Qualcomm Rel-16 Revision of S2-2108873r02. Approved Agreed
7.7 S2-2108874 CR Approval 23.502 CR3303 (Rel-17, 'A'): Include TSN time domain into bridge information reporting procedure Qualcomm Rel-17 r00 agreed. Revised to S2-2109070. Revised
7.7 S2-2109070 CR Approval 23.502 CR3303R1 (Rel-17, 'A'): Include TSN time domain into bridge information reporting procedure Qualcomm Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108874r00. Approved Agreed
7.7 S2-2109004 LS In Action LS from RAN WG3: Reply LS on Clarification of UE with CAG information in UE subscription RAN WG3 (R3-216064) Rel-16 Noted Qianghua (Huawei) proposes to note this LS, this is for information, no action requires for SA2
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7.8 - - - Enhancements to the Service-Based 5G System Architecture (5G_eSBA) - - Docs:=0 -
7.9 - - - Architecture enhancements for the support of Integrated access and backhaul (IABARC) - - Docs:=0 -
7.10 - - - Enhancement of URLLC supporting in 5GC (5G_URLLC) - - Docs:=0 -
7.11 - - - Enhancement of Network Slicing (eNS) - - Docs:=4 -
7.11 S2-2108468 CR Approval 23.502 CR3243 (Rel-16, 'F'): SUPI in Notifications from NSSAAF Ericsson Rel-16 Postponed Haiyang (Huawei) comments and show concerns.
Josep (DT) comments.
Alessio(Nokia) also thinks this is not a category F CR, rather a category B CR. We do not agree to this additional feature as it seems there is no problem to solve ...
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Josep (DT) proposes to at least postpone.
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides replies
Haiyang (Huawei) agrees with Josep (DT), suggests to note/postpone this paper.
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Postponed
7.11 S2-2108469 CR Approval 23.502 CR3244 (Rel-17, 'A'): SUPI in Notifications from NSSAAF Ericsson Rel-17 Postponed Haiyang (Huawei) comments and show concerns.
Alessio(Nokia) also thinks this is not a category F CR, rather a category B CR. We do not agree to this additional feature as it seems there is no problem to solve ...
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Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides replies
Haiyang (Huawei) suggests to note/postpone this CR.
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Postponed
7.11 S2-2108709 CR Approval 23.502 CR3276 (Rel-17, 'F'): The update for Nnrf_NFDiscovery_Request service operation China Mobile Rel-17 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109071. Aihua (CMCC) provides r01 based on offline discussion.
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7.11 S2-2109071 CR Approval 23.502 CR3276R1 (Rel-17, 'C'): The update for Nnrf_NFDiscovery_Request service operation China Mobile Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108709r01. Approved Agreed
7.12 - - - Optimisations on UE radio capability signalling (RACS) - - Docs:=2 -
7.12 S2-2108304 CR Approval 23.501 CR2524R1 (Rel-16, 'F'): On alignment of RACS capability detection with RAN WG3 Nokia, Nokia Shanghai bell, Qualcomm Inc., Ericsson Rel-16 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2100063 from S2#143E. Approved Agreed
7.12 S2-2108305 CR Approval 23.401 CR3617R1 (Rel-16, 'F'): On alignment of RACS capability detection with RAN WG3 Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell,Qualcomm Inc, Ericsson Rel-16 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2100064 from S2#143E. Approved Agreed
7.13 - - - Enhanced IMS to 5GC Integration (eIMS5G_SBA) - - Docs:=2 -
7.13 S2-2108297 LS In Action LS from GSMA 5GJA: LS to 3GPP on IMS Data Channel Architecture GSMA 5GJA (5GJA18_109r1) Responses drafted in S2-2108901 and S2-2108907. Postponed Leo (Deutsche Telekom) proposes to postpone the LS to the next SA2 meeting.
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7.13 S2-2108907 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] Reply LS on IMS Data Channel Architecture China Mobile Response to S2-2108297. Postponed Leo (Deutsche Telekom) provides r01.
Chia-Lin (MediaTek) suggest to postpone LS
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7.14 - - - User Data Interworking and Coexistence (UDICoM) - - Docs:=0 -
7.15 - - - Enhancing Topology of SMF and UPF in 5G Networks (ETSUN) - - Docs:=9 -
7.15 S2-2108364 CR Approval 23.501 CR3365 (Rel-16, 'F'): V-SMF change at inter-PLMN mobility Ericsson Rel-16 Approved Agreed
7.15 S2-2108365 CR Approval 23.501 CR3366 (Rel-17, 'A'): V-SMF change at inter-PLMN mobility Ericsson Rel-17 Approved Agreed
7.15 S2-2108366 CR Approval 23.502 CR3226 (Rel-16, 'F'): V-SMF change at inter-PLMN mobility Ericsson Rel-16 r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109072. Laurent (Nokia): provides r01
Stefan (Ericsson) provides r02
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7.15 S2-2109072 CR Approval 23.502 CR3226R1 (Rel-16, 'F'): V-SMF change at inter-PLMN mobility Ericsson Rel-16 Revision of S2-2108366r02. Approved Agreed
7.15 S2-2108367 CR Approval 23.502 CR3227 (Rel-17, 'A'): V-SMF change at inter-PLMN mobility Ericsson Rel-17 r00 agreed. Revised to S2-2109073. Revised
7.15 S2-2109073 CR Approval 23.502 CR3227R1 (Rel-17, 'A'): V-SMF change at inter-PLMN mobility Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108367r00. Approved Agreed
7.15 S2-2108678 CR Approval 23.502 CR3273 (Rel-17, 'F'): N9 forwarding tunnel between ULCLs controlled by I-SMF Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Postponed Laurent (Nokia): Comments
Fenqin (Huawei): Comments
Laurent (Nokia): answers to Fenqin
Laurent (Nokia): provides r01
Fenqin (Huawei): provides r02
Stefan (Ericsson) provides question
Laurent (Nokia): proposes to postpone 8678
Fenqin (Huawei) responds
Stefan (Ericsson) supports to postone
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7.15 S2-2108856 CR Approval 23.502 CR2894R1 (Rel-16, 'F'): L-PSA and I-SMF release during mobiity procedure with I-SMF change or removal Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-16 Revision of (Merged and Agreed) S2-2105353 from S2#146E. Postponed Fenqin (Huawei) propose to note this paper
Laurent (Nokia): provides r01
Fenqin (Huawei): propose to Note this paper
Stefan (Ericsson) supports to note this rel-16 CR and only do change in rel-17
Laurent (Nokia): OK note or withdraw this rel-16 CR and only do change in rel-17
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7.15 S2-2108857 CR Approval 23.502 CR2895R1 (Rel-17, 'A'): L-PSA and I-SMF release during mobiity procedure with I-SMF change or removal Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2105354 from S2#146E. Postponed Fenqin (Huawei) comment and suggest to merge this paper to 8678
Laurent (Nokia): provides r01
Fenqin (Huawei): propose to postpone 8857
Stefan (Ericsson) supports to postpone
Laurent (Nokia): Let's postpone both 8678 and 8857 then
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7.16 - - - 5GS Transfer of Policies for Background Data Transfer (xBDT) - - Docs:=0 -
7.17 - - - Single radio voice continuity from 5GS to 3G (5G_SRVCC) - - Docs:=0 -
8 - - - Rel-17 WID - - Docs:=0 -
8.1 - - - Enablers for Network Automation for 5G - phase 2 (eNA_Ph2) - - Docs:=67 -
8.1 - - - General - - Docs:=14 -
8.1 S2-2108647 CR Approval 23.288 CR0481 (Rel-17, 'F'): Term alignment of Target of Analytics Reporting and Analytics Filter Information China Mobile Rel-17 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109074. Yannick (Nokia): Nokia provides r01.
Aihua(China Mobile) replies to Yannick(Nokia).
Yannick (Nokia): Nokia replies to China Mobile.
Aihua(China Mobile) replies to Nokia.
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8.1 S2-2109074 CR Approval 23.288 CR0481R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Term alignment of Target of Analytics Reporting and Analytics Filter Information China Mobile Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108647r01. Approved Agreed
8.1 S2-2108682 CR Approval 23.288 CR0467R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): Miscellaneous corrections for TS 23.288 on eNA_ph2 Vivo, Huawei, Ericsson, Nokia, LG Electronics, CATT, Intel Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107803 from S2#147E. Approved Agreed
8.1 S2-2108683 CR Approval 23.501 CR3320R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Miscellaneous correction for eNA Ph2 on TS 23.501 Vivo, Huawei, HiSilicon, Nokia, LG Electronics, Intel Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107804 from S2#147E. Noted Yannick (Nokia): Nokia notes that this CR is identical to SA2#147E agreed CR, and comments that there is also another revision for the SA2#147E agreed CR in S2-2108711.
Vivian (vivo) reply to Yannick(Nokia) and propose to focus on S2-2108683.
Yannick (Nokia): Nokia replies to Vivo.
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Noted
8.1 S2-2108684 CR Approval 23.502 CR3196R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Miscellaneous correction for eNA_Ph2 on TS 23.502 Vivo, Huawei, HiSilicon, LG Electronics Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107596 from S2#147E. Noted Yannick (Nokia): Nokia understands that this CR is identical to SA2#147E agreed CR, and comments that there is also another revision for the SA2#147E agreed CR in S2-2108714.
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Noted
8.1 S2-2108685 CR Approval 23.503 CR0664R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Miscellaneous correction for eNA_Ph2 on TS 23.503 Vivo, Huawei, HiSilicon, LG Electronics Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107597 from S2#147E. Approved Agreed
8.1 S2-2108711 CR Approval 23.501 CR3320R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): Miscellaneous correction for eNA_Ph2 on TS 23.501 Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107804 from S2#147E. r04 agreed. Revised to S2-2109075. Wang Yuan (Huawei) comments that this CR should be aligned with the outcome of S2-2108537/8538/8707.
Yannick (Nokia): Nokia provides r01 to address comments from Ericsson on other proposal in S2-2108714. Changes in the CR are related to discussion on S2-2108537/8538 (Huawei), S2-2108707 (Nokia) and S2-2108708 (Lenovo).
Wang Yuan (Huawei) cosigns this CR and provide r02.
Soohwan (ETRI) provides r03.
Yannick (Nokia): Nokia provides r04. Suggests to limit changes in TS 23.501 to the minimum and refer to clause 5.2 from TS 23.288.
Wang Yuan (Huawei) is fine with r04 and confirms the cosign of this CR.
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Soohwan (ETRI) okay with r04.
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Revised
8.1 S2-2109075 CR Approval 23.501 CR3320R4 (Rel-17, 'F'): Miscellaneous correction for eNA_Ph2 Vivo, Huawei, HiSilicon, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Intel Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108711r04. Approved Agreed
8.1 S2-2108714 CR Approval 23.502 CR3196R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Miscellaneous correction for eNA_Ph2 on TS 23.502 Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107596 from S2#147E. r04 agreed. Revised to S2-2109076. Zhang (Ericsson) provides comments
Wang Yuan (Huawei) comments that the last three changes in the CR should be aligned with the outcome of S2-2108537/8538/8707.
Yannick (Nokia): Nokia provides r01 to address comments from Ericsson.
Zhang (Ericsson) is OK with r01
Wang Yuan (Huawei) cosigns this CR and provide r02.
Soohwan (ETRI) provides r03.
Yannick (Nokia): Nokia provides r04. Suggests to limit changes in TS 23.502 to the minimum and refer to clause 5.2 from TS 23.288.
Wang Yuan (Huawei) is fine with r04 and confirms the cosign of this CR.
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Soohwan (ETRI) is okay with r04.
Zhang (Ericsson) is OK with r04 and co-sign
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Revised
8.1 S2-2109076 CR Approval 23.502 CR3196R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): Miscellaneous correction for eNA_Ph2 Vivo, Huawei, HiSilicon, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108714r04. Approved Agreed
8.1 S2-2108966 CR Approval 23.288 CR0492 (Rel-17, 'F'): Resolve normative wording in notes Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109078. Zhang (Ericsson) provides r01
Mehrdad (Samsung) comments on all revisions and suggests to remove changes of clause 6.1.3 and 6.1A.3.1 from this CR in case it will be handled.
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia provides r02
Zhang (Ericsson) is fine with r02 and co-sign
Mehrdad (Samsung) comments on r02 and asks for clarification from Ericsson.
Zhang (Ericsson) provides comments
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia clarifies to Samsung
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8.1 S2-2109078 CR Approval 23.288 CR0492R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Resolve normative wording in notes Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108966r02. Approved Agreed
8.1 S2-2108952 CR Approval 23.288 CR0491 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on interaction between timers and supported analytics Delay Samsung Rel-17 r06 agreed. Revised to S2-2109077. Antoine (Orange) provides r01.
Chi (China Unicom) asks question for clarification.
Mehrdad (Samsung) is OK with r01 and replies to China Unicom.
Chi (China Unicom) provides further comments.
Mehrdad (Samsung) replies to China Unicom and provides r02 and r03. Please ignore r02 as it has typo.
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia comments on r03 and asks for clarification
Mehrdad (Samsung) replies to Nokia and provides r04.
Chi (China Unicom) asks question on 'revised waiting time'.
Mehrdad (Samsung) replies to China Unicom and provides r05.
Zhang (Ericsson) provides comments
Mehrdad (Samsung) replies to Ericsson and provides r06.
Mehrdad (Samsung) replies to Ericsson.
Zhang (Ericsson) is OK with r06
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Chi (China Unicom) is ok with r06.
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia is okay with r05 and r06
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Revised
8.1 S2-2109077 CR Approval 23.288 CR0491R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on interaction between timers and supported analytics Delay Samsung Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108952r06. Approved Agreed
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8.1 S2-2108537 DISCUSSION Agreement Discussion on ML Model Filter Information during the NWDAF containing MTLF registration. Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Noted Noted
8.1 S2-2108538 CR Approval 23.288 CR0477 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarify the ML Model Filter Information during the NWDAF containing MTLF registration Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Merged into S2-2109079 Wang Yuan (Huawei) confirms that this CR is merged into S2-2108707
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Merged
8.1 S2-2108650 CR Approval 23.288 CR0461R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarify the NWDAF (MTLF) and NWDAF (AnLF) China Mobile, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107805 from S2#147E. Noted Yannick (Nokia): Nokia comments that this CR is related to discussion on other CRs in S2-2108538 from Huawei, S2-2108708 from Lenovo and S2-2108707 from Nokia.
Aihua(CMCC) replies to Yannick(Nokia) and provides r01.
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Yannick (Nokia): Nokia proposes to note this document under the assumption that a revision for S2-2108707 would be approved in this meeting.
Aihua(China Mobile) suggests to agree r01.
Yannick (Nokia): Nokia prefers to note this CR.
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Noted
8.1 S2-2108707 CR Approval 23.288 CR0486 (Rel-17, 'F'): Corrections to discovery for NWDAF containing MTLF Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 r09 agreed. Revised to S2-2109079, merging S2-2108538 and S2-2108708 Zhang (Ericsson) provides comments
Wang Yuan (Huawei) provides comments.
Yannick (Nokia): Nokia provides r01. Nokia notes that there are three CRs on the same issue, S2-2108538 (Huawei), S2-2108708 (Lenovo) and S2-2108707 (Nokia).
Wang Yuan (Huawei) replies to Yannick (Nokia) and provides r03.
Soohwan (ETRI) provides r04.
Malla (NTT DOCOMO) provided r05.
Yannick (Nokia): Nokia provides r06.
Dimitris (Lenovo) provides r07
Yannick (Nokia): Nokia is fine with r07.
Yannick (Nokia): Nokia suggests a wording for NOTE Y.
Wang Yuan (Huawei) provides r08 and co-signs this CR.
Yannick (Nokia): Nokia is ok with r08
Malla (NTT DOCOMO) provided r09
Yannick (Nokia): Nokia is ok with r09.
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8.1 S2-2109079 CR Approval 23.288 CR0486R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Corrections to discovery for NWDAF containing MTLF Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Huawei, NTT DOCOMO, Lenovo, Motorola Mobility Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108707r09, merging S2-2108538 and S2-2108708. Approved Agreed
8.1 S2-2108708 CR Approval 23.288 CR0487 (Rel-17, 'F'): ML model provisioning information in NRF Lenovo, Motorola Mobility Rel-17 Merged into S2-2109079 Yannick (Nokia): Nokia provides comments. Nokia notes that there are three CRs on the same issue, S2-2108538 (Huawei), S2-2108708 (Lenovo) and S2-2108707 (Nokia).
Dimitris (Lenovo) is ok to use S2-2108707 as the basis for this discussion
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8.1 S2-2108436 CR Approval 23.288 CR0448R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): CR to resolve conflicts in ML model transferring ETRI, Huawei?, Nokia? Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107321 from S2#147E. Confirm Sources! Postponed Xiaoyan (CATT) objects to r00 (the original CR) and provides r01.
Soohwan (ETRI) objects to r01 and proposes a way forward
Malla (NTT DOCOMO) asks whether this CR is considered as merged into S2-2108536
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia clarifies that this CR is not merged into S2-2108536. Disagrees with r01.
Soohwan provides r02 and comments.
Xiaoyan (CATT) provides r03.
Xiaoyan (CATT) objects to r02.
Soohwan (ETRI) provides r04 and r05 based on the discussion and Soohwan (ETRI) prefers to go with r05.
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia disagrees with r03, r04. Asks whether r04 and r05 also merge 8713r04?
Soohwan (ETRI) confirms that r04 and r05 capture the content in 8713r04.
Xiaoyan (CATT) objects to r05 and r04 too, based on the discussions in S2-2108536 and this thread.
Dimitris (Lenovo) comments
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia responds to Lenovo. Proposes alternative.
Soohwan (ETRI) objects to r03 and the futher revisions which include ML model file address(es) without proposed NOTE and normative text in r04.
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Soohwan (ETRI) proposes to postpone this CR
Xiaoyan (CATT) suggests that this CR be marked as merged to S2-2108713.
Soohwan (ETRI) disagrees to merge this CR into S2-2108713 and asks to postpone.
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Postponed
8.1 S2-2108536 DISCUSSION Agreement Discussion on ML model transferring during the analytics context transfer. Huawei, HiSilicon, ETRI Rel-17 Noted Wang Yuan (Huawei) provides r01 based on offline discussions.
Xiaoyan (CATT) propose to note this discussion paper and focus on discussions in S2-2108436 thread.
Soohwan (ETRI) supports proposal 1 and concerns with proposal 2.
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia disagrees with proposal 2 in r00 and r01
Dimitris (Lenovo) suggests to agree first on the ML model transfer procedure then work on the related CRs
Xiaoyan (CATT) disagrees with the view of Gerald(Nokia).
Wang Yuan (Huawei) also support proposal 1 based on the R17 conclusion for ML model sharing.
Xiaoyan (CATT) provides comments to the proposals.
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia responds to earlier CATT response
Xiaoyan (CATT) provides clarification to Gerald(Nokia).
Dimitris (Lenovo) comments
Xiaoyan (CATT) responds to Dimitris (Lenovo).
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia responds to Xiaoyan (CATT)
Dimitris (Lenovo) responds to Xiaoyan (CATT)
Soohwan (ETRI) provides comments
Xiaoyan (CATT) responds to Gerald (Nokia).
Xiaoyan (CATT) replies to Soohwan (ETRI).
Soohwan (ETRI) replies to Xiaoyan.
Wang Yuan (Huawei) replies to earlier CATT questions.
Xiaoyan (CATT) replies to Wang Yuan (Huawei).
Soohwan (ETRI) asks any way forward.
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8.1 S2-2108551 CR Approval 23.288 CR0478 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on external triggers and clean up the UE mobility analytics CATT Rel-17 r07 agreed. Revised to S2-2109080. Zhang (Ericsson) provides comments
Jiahui (China Telecom) provides comments
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia provides comments on original
Yingying(CATT) replies to Zhang Fu(Ericsson) and Jiahui (China Telecom), and provides r01.
Yingying(CATT) replies to Gerald (Nokia), and provides r02.
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia comments on r02
Yingying(CATT) agrees with Zhang(Ericsson) and provides r03.
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia comments on r03
Yingying(CATT) replies to Gerald (Nokia) and provides r04.
Zhang (Ericsson) provides r05
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia objects to r05, is okay with r04
Zhang (Ericsson) provides comments and r06
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia disagrees with r06 and provides r07
Yingying(CATT) agrees with Gerald (Nokia), is okay with r07, and provides r08.
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia replies to Zhang (E///)
Yingying(CATT) replies to Zhang (Ericsson).
Yingying(CATT) provides clarification to Zhang (Ericsson) .
Zhang (Ericsson) provides comments and r09
Yingying(CATT) provides r10 and prefers to r04 or r08, is okay with r07.
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia comments on r09 and r10
Yingying(CATT) provides r11.
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Gerald (Nokia): Nokia is okay with r04/r08 and r07; objects to other revisions and original
Zhang (Ericsson) is OK with r07; objects to other versions
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Revised
8.1 S2-2109080 CR Approval 23.288 CR0478R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on external triggers and clean up the UE mobility analytics CATT, Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108551r07. Approved Agreed
8.1 S2-2108664 CR Approval 23.288 CR0463R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarify the UE aggregated mobility analytics exposure to NF China Mobile Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107813 from S2#147E. r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109081. Gerald (Nokia): Nokia does not see need for this CR revision
Aihua(China Mobile) replies to Antoine (Orange) and Gerald (Nokia).
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia responds to China Mobile
Aihua(China Mobile) replies to Gerald (Nokia) and provides r01.
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia responds to Aihua (China Mobile) and comments on r01
Aihua(China Mobile) replies to Gerald (Nokia) and provides r02.
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Gerald (Nokia): Nokia is okay with r02
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Revised
8.1 S2-2109081 CR Approval 23.288 CR0463R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarify the UE aggregated mobility analytics exposure to NF China Mobile Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108664r02. Approved Agreed
8.1 S2-2108713 CR Approval 23.288 CR0488 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification of transferring ML model during analytics transfer Lenovo, Motorola Mobility Rel-17 Postponed Soohwan (ETRI) asks to have discussion regarding on this CR in S2-2108546 thread.
Xiaoyan (CATT) suggest that this CR be merged into S2-2108436.
Dimitris (Lenovo) provides r01
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia comments on r01
Dimitris (Lenovo) provides r02
Xiaoyan (CATT) provides r03.
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia provides r04
Soohwan (ETRI) proposes to merge this CR into S2-2108436.
Dimitris (Lenovo) suggests to keep CRs separate for now
Soohwan (ETRI) replies to Dimitris.
Xiaoyan (CATT) objects to r04.
Dimitris (Lenovo) provides r05
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia comments on r05
Dimitris (Lenovo) provides r06
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Soohwan(ETRI) proposes to postpone this CR.
Xiaoyan (CATT) support r06 with small modifications to address Soohwan (ETRI) comments.
Soohwan (ETRI) objects to approve this CR.
Xiaoyan (CATT) clarifies to Soohwan (ETRI) and support approving r06 with small modifications.
Dimitris (Lenovo) is ok with r04 or r06 with the modifications proposed by Xiaoyan (CATT). Propose to discuss in CC2
Dimitris (Lenovo) suggests to go with r04 or r06 if acceptable
Soohwan (ETRI) disagrees to approve r04 and r06.
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia is only okay with r04, otherwise suggests to POSTPONE
Dimitris (Lenovo) asks Soohwan (ETRI) to reconsider agreeing r04
Soohwan (ETRI) revokes the objection on r04 and confirms that r04 is okay to us. Also, Soohwan (ETRI) asks to add ETRI as co-source company in r04.
Wang Yuan (Huawei) is fine with r04.
Xiaoyan (CATT) can only accept r06 or r05 with small modifications, objects to other revisions (including r00); otherwise fine to postpone.
Dimitris (Lenovo) requests clarification from Xiaoyan (CATT)
Xiaoyan (CATT) replies to Dimitris (Lenovo).
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Postponed
8.1 S2-2108735 CR Approval 23.288 CR0490 (Rel-17, 'F'): Alignment and corrections related to prepared analytics transfer OPPO Rel-17 r03 agreed. Revised to S2-2109082. Gerald (Nokia): Nokia disagrees with CR
Jungshin (Samsung) asks for clarification.
Boren (OPPO) replies to Nokia and Samsung.
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia responds to OPPO
Boren (OPPO) replies to Nokia and provides a r01.
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia provides r02
Boren (OPPO) provides r03.
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia is okay with r03
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8.1 S2-2109082 CR Approval 23.288 CR0490R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Alignment and corrections related to prepared analytics transfer OPPO, Nokia Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108735r03. Approved Agreed
8.1 S2-2108984 CR Approval 23.288 CR0457R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarifications on transfer of analytics context and analytics subscription CATT, Samsung Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107810 from S2#147E. r04 agreed. Revised to S2-2109083. CC#4: CATT sustained objection to r04. Postponed Aihua(China Mobile) provides r01.
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia provides r02
Aihua(China Mobile) provides comments and r03.
Jungshin (Samsung): We can accept both r02 and r03.
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia comments on r03 and provides r04.
Aihua(China Mobile) comments and provides r05.
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Gerald (Nokia): Nokia prefers r04
Aihua(China Mobile) clarifies and thinks r05 is correct.
Xiaoyan (CATT) prefers r05.
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia clarifies the issue in r05. Prefers r04. Okay to stay with previous revision S2-2107810 agreed in last meeting.
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia replies to CATT
Zhang (Ericsson) asks for clarification
Aihua(China Mobile) proposes rewording.
Xiaoyan (CATT) replies to Nokia.
Aihua(China Mobile) clarifies to Zhang (Ericsson).
Xiaoyan (CATT) provides clarification to Zhang (Ericsson).
Zhang (Ericsson) provides comments
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia replies to China Mobile
Zhang (Ericsson) prefers r04 and object r05
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia objects r05.
Xiaoyan (CATT) objects r04.
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Jungshin (Samsung) proposes a revised text
Aihua(CMCC) can live with the revised text from Jungshin.
Postponed
8.1 S2-2109083 CR Approval 23.288 CR0457R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarifications on transfer of analytics context and analytics subscription CATT, Samsung Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108984r04. CC#2: WITHDRAWN Withdrawn
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8.1 S2-2108425 CR Approval 23.288 CR0472 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on input and output of slice load level analytics China Telecom Rel-17 Postponed Belen (Ericsson) provides comments
Jiahui (China Telecom) replies to Belen (Ericsson)
Jiahui (China Telecom) provides r02.
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Belen (Ericsson) objects, given that its comments are not addressed. Propose to POSTPONE
Jiahui (China Telecom) agrees to POSTPONE and asks for clarification.
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Postponed
8.1 S2-2108534 CR Approval 23.288 CR0476 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarify the resource usage for a network slice instance Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109084. Belen (Ericsson) provides comments
David (Samsung) provides r01 and comments
Wang Yuan (Huawei) replies to Belen (Ericsson) and David (Samsung), and provides r02.
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Antoine (Orange) asks a question.
Wang Yuan (Huawei) replies to Antoine(Orange).
Belen (Ericsson) asks to POSPONE given that comments were not addressed.
Wang Yuan (Huawei) suggest to approve r01 which addressed Belen(Ericsson)'s comments.
Belen (Ericsson) is okay with r01
David (Samsung) would also like to co-source r01. Thanks.
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Revised
8.1 S2-2109084 CR Approval 23.288 CR0476R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarify the resource usage for a network slice instance Huawei, HiSilicon, Ericsson, Samsung Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108534r01. Approved Agreed
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8.1 S2-2108285 LS In Information LS from CT WG3: LS on question and feedback about the EVEX Work Item CT WG3 (C3-215316) Rel-17 Noted Yannick (Nokia): Nokia provides comments.
Juan Zhang (Qualcomm) replies to Yannick (Nokia).
Mehrdad (Samsung) replies to Nokia and Qualcomm.
Yannick (Nokia): Nokia replies to Qualcomm and Samsung. Agrees that no LS reply is needed, we can follow-up in SA2 once SA4 has made some progress.
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Juan Zhang (Qualcomm) proposes to note the LS.
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Noted
8.1 S2-2109022 LS In Information LS from SA WG4: Reply LS to CT3 Questions and Feedback on EVEX SA WG4 (S4-211647) Rel-17 Postponed Yannick (Nokia): Nokia suggests to postpone this LS from SA4 which was received during our meeting.
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Postponed
8.1 S2-2109023 LS In Action LS from SA WG4: Reply LS to SA WG2 on UE Data Collection and Reporting SA WG4 (S4-211648) Rel-17 Postponed Yannick (Nokia): Nokia agrees to postpone this LS from SA4 which was received during our meeting. The LS is for action to SA2. The proposal from SA4 on a 3-way teleconference among SA2, SA4 and CT3 can probably be answered outside of LS exchange considering the proposed date of December 9th.
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Postponed
8.1 S2-2108597 CR Approval 23.502 CR3258 (Rel-17, 'F'): Update to NF services for UE data collection CATT Rel-17 Approved Agreed
8.1 S2-2108598 CR Approval 23.288 CR0479 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarifications for UE data collection CATT Rel-17 r03 agreed. Revised to S2-2109085. Antoine (Orange) provides r01.
Yannick (Nokia): Nokia provides r02.
Mehrdad (Samsung) comments on original version and all revisons.
Xiaoyan (CATT) provides r03.
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Revised
8.1 S2-2109085 CR Approval 23.288 CR0479R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarifications for UE data collection CATT Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108598r03. Approved Agreed
8.1 S2-2108696 CR Approval 23.288 CR0455R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Restriction for 5GC to provide UE IP address to untrusted AF OPPO Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107818 from S2#147E. r03 agreed. Revised to S2-2109086. Yannick (Nokia): Nokia provides r01.
Belen (Ericsson) provides r02
Juan Zhang (Qualcomm) prefers r01.
Yang (OPPO) also prefer r01. Provides a clean-up version r03 based on r01.
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Juan Zhang (Qualcomm) proposes to approve r03.
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Revised
8.1 S2-2109086 CR Approval 23.288 CR0455R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): Restriction for 5GC to provide UE IP address to untrusted AF OPPO Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108696r03. Approved Agreed
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8.1 S2-2108665 CR Approval 23.288 CR0462R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarify the Redundant Transmission Experience related analytics China Mobile, Huawei Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107536 from S2#147E. Postponed Zhang (Ericsson) provides comments
Susan (Huawei) provides r01.
Hyunsook (LGE) provides comments
Susan (Huawei) replies.
Susan (Huawei) further clarifies.
Susan (Huawei) replies to Hyunsook (LGE).
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia provides comments
Susan (Huawei): replies and provides r02.
Susan (Huawei) provides r03.
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia asks for clarification
Susan (Huawei) replies to Gerald (Nokia).
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia comments on r03
Susan (Huawei) replies to Gerald (Nokia) and provides r04.
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Hyunsook (LGE) prefers to keep ''Observed/Predicted Redundant Transmission Experience value', and have a concern on r04 removing it.
Susan (Huawei) propose to move forward with r03 for this meeting.
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia suggests to POSTPONE
Zhang (Ericsson) is OK with r03 or postpone
Hyunsook (LGE) is OK with r03 or postpone.
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Postponed
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8.1 S2-2108533 CR Approval 23.288 CR0475 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarifications for Ndccf services and Nnwdaf_DataManagement services Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109087. Yannick (Nokia): Nokia provides r01.
Wang Yuan (Huawei) agree r01.
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Revised
8.1 S2-2109087 CR Approval 23.288 CR0475R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarifications for Ndccf services and Nnwdaf_DataManagement services Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108533r01. Approved Agreed
8.1 S2-2108686 CR Approval 23.288 CR0482 (Rel-17, 'F'): Adding a list to enumerate NF services for enhanced procedures data collection Vivo Rel-17 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109088. Zhang (Ericsson) provides comments
Vivian(vivo) replies to Zhang(Ericsson) and provides r01.
Zhang (Ericsson) is OK with r01
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Revised
8.1 S2-2109088 CR Approval 23.288 CR0482R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Adding a list to enumerate NF services for enhanced procedures data collection Vivo Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108686r01. Approved Agreed
8.1 S2-2108687 CR Approval 23.288 CR0483 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification for MFAF to be deployed or trusted by the operator Vivo Rel-17 Noted Antoine (Orange) doesn't see the need for this CR.
Zhang (Ericsson) provides comments
Vivian (vivo) replies to Zhang(Ericsson) and Antoine(Orange)
Yannick (Nokia): Nokia comments on r00 and r01.
Malla (NTT DOCOMO) agrees with Antoine (Orange) and we also see no need for this CR.
Yannick (Nokia): Nokia provides comments.
Malla (NTT DOCOMO) object the CR.
Vivian (vivo) replies to all comments and agrees to note this CR.
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Noted
8.1 - - - KI#12 - - Docs:=4 -
8.1 S2-2108273 LS In Action LS from SA WG6: Reply LS on RAT type for network monitoring SA WG6 (S6-212146) Rel-17 Revision of S2-2107075 from S2#147E. Noted Yannick (Nokia): Nokia proposes to note this incoming LS.
Jungshin (Samsung) proposes to note the LS.
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Noted
8.1 S2-2108314 CR Approval 23.503 CR0656R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on PCF behaviour based on OSE analytics China Telecom, Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107224 from S2#147E. Postponed Yannick (Nokia): Nokia provides comments.
Belen (Ericsson) provides comments.
Zhuoyi (China Telecom) China Telecom replies to Yannick and Belen, and provide r01.
Belen (Ericsson) asks China Telecom for clarifications
Zhuoyi (China Telecom) replies to Ericsson's question.
Belen (Ericsson) asks questions and think the CR needs futher work.
Zhuoyi (China Telecom) replies to Ericsson.
Belen (Ericsson) asks to POSTPONE this CR
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Zhuoyi (China Telecom) agrees to POSTPONE this CR
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Postponed
8.1 S2-2108443 CR Approval 23.288 CR0453R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on Per-UE Service Experience Request Procedure Tencent, Tencent Cloud, Huawei, Nokia Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107824 from S2#147E. Approved Belen (Ericsson) asks what the changes are compared with the agreed CR
Yannick (Nokia): Nokia clarifies that the CR revision is only for coversheet updates.
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Agreed
8.1 S2-2108716 CR Approval 23.288 CR0489 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on including location information for OSE analytics Lenovo, Motorola Mobility Rel-17 Postponed Wang Yuan (Huawei) comments on original and provides r01.
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia is okay with r00, comments on r01 and responds to Huawei
Belen (Ericsson) provides comments.
Dimitris (Lenovo) responds and provides r02
Malla (NTT DOCOMO) provided suggestions for note.
David (Samsung) provides r03, disagrees to aspects of r02.
Dimitris (Lenovo) responds to David (Samsung)
Belen (Ericsson) cannot accept restrictions to 1 UE only.
Belen (Ericsson) asks about r03, prefers r02
David (Samsung) asks for clarifications from Ericsson, still disagrees to r02 .
Belen (Ericsson) clarifies to Samsung
David (Samsung) comments.
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia prefers r02 over r03
Dimitris (Lenovo) provides r04 with a compromise proposal to include Group of UEs
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia provides r05
Belen (Ericsson) respond to Samsung, and comments on r04.
David (Samsung) provides r06
Belen (Ericsson) prefers r05, r06 cannot be accepted since the use of the Analytics subset is already defined.
Dimitris (Lenovo) prefers r05
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David (Samsung) objects to r05, r04 and r02. Samsung cannot understand why r06 is not agreeable.
Dimitris (Lenovo) can agree r06 but further clarifications would be needed on the next meeting
David (Samsung) agrees with Lenovo to work on clarifications needed for next meeting
Belen (Ericsson) objects to r06, is okay to work for next meeting.
David (Samsung) is OK to completely remove the change of cl. 6.4.1 in r06
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia proposes to POSTPONE
Dimitris (Lenovo) comments
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Postponed
8.1 - - - KI#15 - - Docs:=13 -
8.1 S2-2108995 LS In Information LS from SA WG3: Reply LS on NTN specific User Consent SA WG3 (S3-214349) Rel-17 Noted Noted
8.1 S2-2108254 LS In Action LS from SA WG3: LS on User consent SA WG3 (S3-212123) Rel-17 Revision of S2-2107001 from S2#147E. Response drafted in S2-2108969. Final response in S2-2109089 Belen (Ericsson) asks to NOTE
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Replied to
8.1 S2-2108969 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] LS Reply on user consent Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Response to S2-2108254. r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109089. Malla (NTT DOCOMO) pointed that LS out text need to align with the approved CRs.
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia will provide a revision today afternoon
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia provides r01. R02 is expected based on outcome of the KI#15 discussions.
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia provides r02. Additional changes might be required based on final outcome of this meeting.
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Revised
8.1 S2-2109089 LS OUT Approval Reply LS on user consent SA WG2 Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108969r02. CC#2: Remove Editor's note. Approved Approved
8.1 S2-2108599 CR Approval 23.288 CR0480 (Rel-17, 'F'): User consent for analytics and model training CATT Rel-17 r12 agreed. Revised to S2-2109090. Xiaoyan (CATT) provides r01 to merge changes in clause 6.2.9 of S2-2108689 into this CR.
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia supports the CR and provides r02
Mehrdad (Samsung) comments on original version r01 and r02.
Xiaoyan (CATT) provides r03.
Vivian(vivo) replies to Xiaoyan (CATT) and provides r04 and asks for co-sign.
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia provides r05
Malla (NTT DOCOMO) asks for clarification and raise a concern.
Mehrdad (Samsung) comments on r05
Xiaoyan (CATT) replies to Malla (NTT DOCOMO).
Xiaoyan (CATT) provides r06.
Xiaoyan (CATT) provides additional clarification to Malla (NTT DOCOMO).
Vivian (vivo) provides comment about Xiaoyan's(CATT) considering below and provides r07.
Wang Yuan (Huawei) has concerns for r07, provides r08 and also cosigns this CR.
Malla (NTT DOCOMO) provided comment.
Vivian(vivo)replies to Wang Yuan (Huawei) and provides r09.
Belen (Ericsson) provides r10, objects to previous revisions and initial document
Malla (NTT DOCOMO) provides r11
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia comments on r10 and r11
Belen (Ericsson) is okay with r11.
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia comments on r11
Xiaoyan (CATT) provides r12 to fix the editorial as commented by Gerald (Nokia).
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8.1 S2-2109090 CR Approval 23.288 CR0480R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): User consent for analytics and model training CATT, Nokia, vivo, Huawei Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108599r12. Approved Agreed
8.1 S2-2108688 CR Approval 23.288 CR0484 (Rel-17, 'F'): Termination request or rejection of NWDAF data managment service due to user consent not granted Vivo Rel-17 r04 agreed. Revised to S2-2109091. Gerald (Nokia): Nokia comments on original
Vivian (vivo) replies to Gerald's (Nokia) comments and provides r01.
Malla (NTT DOCOMO) provided comment.
Vivian(vivo) replies to Malla's (NTT DOCOMO) comment.
Vivian(vivo) apologizes for the wrong r02 and provides r03.
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia provides r04
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Vivian(vivo) thanks to Gerald (Nokia) and is OK with r04
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8.1 S2-2109091 CR Approval 23.288 CR0484R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Termination request or rejection of NWDAF data managment service due to user consent not granted Vivo Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108688r04. Approved Agreed
8.1 S2-2108689 CR Approval 23.288 CR0485 (Rel-17, 'F'): Termination request or rejection of NWDAF ML model provision service due to user consent not granted Vivo Rel-17 Not Handled XIaoyan (CATT) provides r01.
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8.1 S2-2108967 CR Approval 23.288 CR0493 (Rel-17, 'B'): DCCF-based user consent checking Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109092. Vivian (vivo) comments on original.
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia is okay with r01
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Revised
8.1 S2-2109092 CR Approval 23.288 CR0493R1 (Rel-17, 'B'): DCCF-based user consent checking Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108967r01. Approved Agreed
8.1 S2-2108968 CR Approval 23.288 CR0446R1 (Rel-17, 'B'): Tracking of distribution and usage of data subject to user consent Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107295 from S2#147E. r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109093. CC#2: Postponed Malla (NTT DOCOMO) provided comment and proposed that ADRF tracking functionality is studied in R18.
Vivian(vivo) provides comments.
Belen (Ericsson) objects to this contribution.
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia provides r01
Belen (Ericsson) objects to r01, initial version too.
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia disagrees with E// view on CatB CRs. Provides r02
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Aihua (CMCC): suggests to postpone this CR.
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia clarifies that r02 was changed to Cat. F
Aihua (CMCC): replies and suggests to postpone this CR.
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Postponed
8.1 S2-2109093 CR Approval 23.288 CR0446R2 (Rel-17, 'B'): Tracking of distribution and usage of data subject to user consent Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108968r02. CC#2: WITHDRAWN Withdrawn
8.1 - - - KI#18 - - Docs:=27 -
8.1 - - - KI#19 - - Docs:=2 -
8.1 S2-2108535 CR Approval 23.288 CR0450R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarify the content of ML model provisioning Huawei, HiSilicon, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107827 from S2#147E. r06 agreed. Revised to S2-2109094. Zhang (Ericsson) provides r01 and co-sign
Wang Yuan (Huawei) replies to Zhang (Ericsson) and provides r02.
Soohwan (ETRI) provides r03.
Zhang (Ericsson) provides comments
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia provides r04
Wang Yuan (Huawei) replies to Zhang(Ericsson)/Gerald(Nokia) and provides r05.
Zhang (Ericsson) is OK with r05
Gerald (Nokia): Nokia prefers r04 over r05
Wang Yuan (Huawei) provides r06 based on Gerald(Nokia)'s comments.
Zhang (Ericsson) is OK for both r05 and r06
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Gerald (Nokia): Nokia is okay with r06
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8.1 S2-2109094 CR Approval 23.288 CR0450R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarify the content of ML model provisioning Huawei, HiSilicon, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Ericsson, CATT Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108535r06. Approved Agreed
8.2 - - - Enhanced support of Non-Public Networks (eNPN) - - Docs:=56 -
8.2 S2-2108264 LS In Action LS from CT WG1: LS on the scope of applying Network Slicing feature in Rel-17 and Rel-16 CT WG1 (C1-215137) Rel-16 Revision of S2-2107026 from S2#147E. Responses drafted in S2-2108829 and S2-2108905. Postponed Postponed
8.2 S2-2108829 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] Reply LS on the scope of applying Network Slicing feature in Rel-17 and Rel-16 MediaTek Inc. Rel-17 Response to S2-2108264. Noted Devaki (Nokia) comments.
Josep (DT) requires clarifications to make the answer clearer, provides r01.
Chia-Lin (MediaTek) provides r02 on only change of 'a' to 'an' SNPN
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Devaki (Nokia) supports the LS out, any version is good. (sorry my earlier comment was for 8876 URSP LS out).
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides comments and objects to r01 and r02, and proposes a simple change.
Josep (DT) asks the reasoning behind the proposed change (removal of 'within').
Josep (DT) objects to r00.
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides reply
Josep (DT) states that NSSAA as part of CH has not been agreed.
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides reply that NSSAA in subscribed network is the only reasonable option for NSSAA
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Yi (China Mobile) accept r02, objects r00 and r03.
Noted
8.2 S2-2108905 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] Reply LS on the scope of applying Network Slicing feature in Rel-17 and Rel-16 China Mobile Response to S2-2108264. Noted Peter (Ericsson) provides comments, and propose to use S2-2108829 as basis
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Devaki (Nokia) is not aligned with SoH outcome on Monday, objects to the LS out.
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Noted
8.2 S2-2108265 LS In Action LS from CT WG1: LS on network slice admission control for SNPN onboarding CT WG1 (C1-215159) Revision of S2-2107028 from S2#147E. Response drafted in S2-2108571. Final response in S2-2109257 Replied to
8.2 S2-2108571 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] Reply LS on network slice admission control for SNPN onboarding Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107415 from S2#147E. Response to S2-2108265. r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109257. Antoine (Orange) provides r01.
Qianghua (Huawei) provides r02
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Revised
8.2 S2-2109257 LS OUT Approval Reply LS on network slice admission control for SNPN onboarding SA WG2 Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108571r02. Approved Approved
8.2 S2-2108277 LS In Information LS from CT WG1: Reply LS on limited service availability of an SNPN CT WG1 (C1-216096) Rel-17 Response drafted in S2-2108330. Final response in S2-2109254 Replied to
8.2 S2-2108330 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] Reply LS on limited service availability of an SNPN Qualcomm Rel-17 Response to S2-2108277. r00 agreed. Revised to S2-2109254. Revised
8.2 S2-2109254 LS OUT Approval Reply LS on limited service availability of an SNPN SA WG2 Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108330r00. Approved Approved
8.2 S2-2108282 LS In Action LS from CT WG1: LS on PCF in case of SNPN with CH using AUSF/UDM for primary auth CT WG1 (C1-216294) Rel-17 Responses drafted in S2-2108827 and S2-2108876. Postponed Postponed
8.2 S2-2108827 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] Reply LS on PCF in case of SNPN with CH using AUSF/UDM for primary auth. MediaTek Inc. Rel-17 Response to S2-2108282. Noted Josep (DT) assumes that the discussion thread is S2-2108876.
Sebastian (Qualcomm) objects to the LS for reasons given for S2-2108828
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Chia-Lin (MediaTek) proposes this LS to be merged to S2-2108876 for easier maintaining discussion
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Noted
8.2 S2-2108876 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] Reply LS on PCF in case of SNPN with CH using AUSF/UDM for primary auth Qualcomm Rel-17 Response to S2-2108282. Noted Devaki (Nokia) comments.
Josep (DT) disagrees that dynamic policies and CH were in scope of the TR. Provides r01
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides comments
Josep (DT) replies.
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides reply
Antoine (Orange) provides r02.
Sebastian (Qualcomm) provides r03 and objects to r01 and r02
Antoine (Orange) provides r04.
Chia-Lin (MediaTek) provides comments on r04
Sebastian (Qualcomm) objects to r04
Antoine (Orange) provides r05.
Sebastian (Qualcomm) provides r06
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Antoine (Orange) comments on r06.
Devaki (Nokia) comments against r06, believes answer to Q1 is wrong, no common understanding.
Chia-Lin (MediaTek) cannot accept r06 and other versions including the original one since no agreements are made for two questions
Josep (DT) comments. Agrees that there seems to be no agreement.
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Noted
8.2 S2-2108328 CR Approval 23.501 CR3314R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Support for emergency calls in limited service state Qualcomm Incorporated Rel-17 Revision of (Noted) S2-2107528 from S2#147E. r07 agreed. Revised to S2-2109259, merging S2-2108595 Rainer (Nokia) provides r01.
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides r02
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides correct link to the r02
Hualin(Huawei) comments.
Huan(vivo) merge S2-2108595 and provides r03.
Josep (DT) co-signs, provides r04 with minor editorials.
Haris(Qualcomm) asks question for text removal in r03 and r04
Josep (DT) comments, provides r05.
Huan (vivo) provides feedback and willing to cosign
Jianning (Xiaomi) provide r06, and co-sign
Rainer (Nokia) is ok with r05.
Josep (DT) provides r07 with minor (English) editorials.
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8.2 S2-2109259 CR Approval 23.501 CR3314R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Support for emergency calls in limited service state Qualcomm Incorporated, Ericsson, Deutsche Telekom, Xiaomi, vivo Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108328r07, merging S2-2108595. Approved Agreed
8.2 S2-2108444 DISCUSSION Agreement Discussion on UE ID of SNPN UE used for accessing emergency services in PLMN vivo Rel-17 Noted Noted
8.2 S2-2108445 CR Approval 23.501 CR3371 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correct the UE ID of SNPN UE used for accessing emergency services in PLMN Vivo Rel-17 Noted George Foti (Ericsson) provides comments. It is not clear what problem the CR is solving. What breaks if the ES is treated like a UE in limited service with no UICC. Will such a session not be established. This additional complexity is not required
Xiaowan(vivo) replies George Foti (Ericsson) and thinks S2-2108444 discussion slides can help to understand the problem
Kisuk (Samsung) agree with Ericsson's comments
Fei (OPPO) asks questions.
Xiaowan vivo(vivo) replies to Fei (OPPO) and seek further clarification.
Fei (OPPO) responds to Xiaowan (vivo)
Josep (DT) asks questions for clarification.
Rainer (Nokia) comments that the scenario is unclear.
Jianning (Xiaomi) provides view
Haris (Qualcomm) proposes to note the CR
Xiaowan (vivo) replies and provides r01
Josep (DT) comments. Proposes to formulate as a NOTE.
Rainer (Nokia) proposes to note 8445.
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Noted
8.2 S2-2108446 CR Approval 23.502 CR3238 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correct the UE ID of SNPN UE used for accessing emergency services in PLMN Vivo Rel-17 Noted George Foti (Ericsson) please see comments on 8445
Xiaowan(vivo) replies George Foti (Ericsson) and thinks S2-2108444 discussion slides can help to understand the problem
Rainer (Nokia) same as for 8445.
Haris(Qualcomm) proposes to note the CR
Xiaowan replies to Haris(Qualcomm)
Haris(Qualcomm) comments
Xiaowan(vivo) replies to Haris(Qualcomm) and also seek view from Antoine (ORANGE) whether authentication is possible or not when a SNPN UE access to PLMN for emergency service
Antoine (Orange) provides view.
Xiaowan(vivo) provides r01 and replies
Haris(Qualcomm) comments on r01
Josep (DT) proposes to send an LS to CT1 to clarify the behavior.
George (Ericsson) comments. What is the purpose of the LS. It is clear that this case can be treated like a UE without UICC. Is there anything else needed. Or are U proposing to send an LS with this clarification?
Xiaowan(vivo) provides Haris(Qualcomm)
Xiawan(vivo) doubts 'this case can be treated like a UE without UICC.' and thinks a LS to SA3 is helpful
Josep (DT) clarifies.
Fei (OPPO) comments.
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Antoine (Orange) asks a question.
Josep (DT) comments. Proposes to postpone.
Haris(Qualcomm) objects to this CR (all revisions)
Rainer (Nokia) proposes to note 8446.
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Noted
8.2 S2-2108461 CR Approval 23.501 CR3256R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): UE onboarding architecture Ericsson, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Qualcomm, Lenovo, Motorola Mobility, Huawei Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2108095 from S2#147E. Not Handled -
8.2 S2-2108462 CR Approval 23.502 CR3137R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): PDU session handling for inter-AMF mobility Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of (unhandled) S2-2107186 from S2#147E. Not Handled Youngkyo(Samsung) proposes to merge this CR into S2-2108442 (AI#6.2).
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides comments and technically prefer 08642.
Youngkyo(Samsung) is okay to have this CR as a baseline and provides a r01.
Qianghua (Huawei) comments
Youngkyo(Samsung) replies to Qianghua(Huawei).
Devaki (Nokia) comments.
Youngkyo(Samsung) provides a revision r02.
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides r03
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Youngkyo(Samsung) prefers r02 but is okay with r03.
Youngkyo(Samsung) requests to take all the proposal of S2-2108462r03 into the S2-2108462, which is marked as merged into S2-2108462(AI#6.2) .
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8.2 S2-2108465 CR Approval 23.501 CR3257R2 (Rel-17, 'D'): Rapporteur's editorial cleanup for eNPN Ericsson, [Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, vivo, Deutsche Telekom] Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2108090 from S2#147E. r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109256. Josep (DT) provides r01.
Josep (DT) forgot to format one bullet point. Provides r02
Jianning (Xiaomi) provides comment
Josep (DT) replies.
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Revised
8.2 S2-2109256 CR Approval 23.501 CR3257R3 (Rel-17, 'D'): Rapporteur's editorial cleanup for eNPN Ericsson, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, vivo, Deutsche Telekom Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108465r02. Approved Agreed
8.2 S2-2108466 CR Approval 23.501 CR3373 (Rel-17, 'F'): Corrections for CH using AUSF/UDM Ericsson Rel-17 r05 agreed. Revised to S2-2109260, merging S2-2108811 Kisuk (Samsung) comments.
Huan (vivo) comments and ask for clarifications
Josep (DT) asks questions for clarification.
Jianning (Xiaomi) provides comment
Qianghua (Huawei) provides comments
Sebastian (Qualcomm) provides r01
Josep (DT) provides r02.
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides replies
Antoine (Orange) provides r03.
Jianning (Xiaomi) provides r04
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides r05
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8.2 S2-2109260 CR Approval 23.501 CR3373R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Corrections for CH using AUSF/UDM Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108466r05, merging S2-2108811. Approved Agreed
8.2 S2-2108467 CR Approval 23.501 CR3374 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction to AMF Onboarding Configuration Data Ericsson Rel-17 r03 agreed. Revised to S2-2109261. Rainer (Nokia) provides r01.
Jihoon (ETRI) provides r02.
Jianning (Xiaomi) provides comment
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides reply
Jianning (Xiaomi) replies to Peter (Ericsson),
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides r03
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Jianning (Xiaomi) is ok with r03
Rainer (Nokia) is ok with r03.
Jihoon (ETRI) is also ok with r03.
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Revised
8.2 S2-2109261 CR Approval 23.501 CR3374R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction to AMF Onboarding Configuration Data Ericsson, ETRI Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108467r03. Approved Agreed
8.2 S2-2108472 CR Approval 23.501 CR3241R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Network slice admission control for SNPN onboarding Ericsson, MediaTek Inc, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107118 from S2#147E. Approved Agreed
8.2 S2-2108473 CR Approval 23.501 CR3240R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Network Slicing scope in relation to SNPNs Ericsson, Qualcomm, MediaTek Inc, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of (Noted) S2-2107116 from S2#147E. CC#2: r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109346. Josep (DT) objects to r00. Provides r01
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides comments
Yi (China Mobile) objects to the CR and ask for clarification.
Hualin(Huawei) comments this CR should also consider the Discussion paper S2-2108918.
Devaki (Nokia) responds to Hualin.
Chia-Lin (MediaTek) provides r02
Hualin(Huawei) provides r03 and r04.
Chia-Lin (MediaTek) cannot accept r04 and has concerns on r03
Fei (OPPO) comments on r03.
Rainer (Nokia) comments.
Hualin(Huawei) object r02, r01 and the original version.
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Josep (DT) objects to r00, r02, r03, r04, r05.
Devaki (Nokia) supports r00, r02, can live with r03 as well.
Haris(Qualcomm) prefers r00, can live with r01 (better than nothing), suggests WF for r03
Josep (DT) is OK to document in the minutes 'Prose is not supported for SNPNs'.
Chia-Lin (MediaTek) prefers with r00 and r02 and supports WF for r03. Can live with r01 since this aligns with the LS in S2-2108829
Fei (OPPO) is also ok to document in the minutes 'ProSe is not supported for NPNs'
Haris(Qualcomm) proposes to agree to r01 instead of noting the CR
Chia-Lin (MediaTek) supports Haris's suggestion to agree on r01
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) CR is related to the SoH at CC#1, i.e. proposes to agree e.g. r03 or try a WA, and if not possible ok with r01
Hualin (Huawei) can live with r01 in this meeting.
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Revised
8.2 S2-2109346 CR Approval 23.501 CR3240R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Network Slicing scope in relation to SNPNs Ericsson, Qualcomm, MediaTek Inc, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108473r01. Approved Agreed
8.2 S2-2108569 CR Approval 23.501 CR3394 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification for QoS differentiation for User Plane IPsec Child SA in underlay network Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Postponed. CC#2: r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109352. Peter (Ericsson) provides comments and r01
Qianghua (Huawei) replies
Qianghua (Huawei) provides r02
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides reply
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Devaki (Nokia) comments.
Devaki (Nokia) prefers to go with r01.
Qianghua (Huawei) prefers to go with r02 and replies
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) propose to POSTPONE the CR
Qianghua (Huawei) proposes to go r02 and replies
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Revised
8.2 S2-2109352 CR Approval 23.501 CR3394R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification for QoS differentiation for User Plane IPsec Child SA in underlay network Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 CC#2: Revision of S2-2108569r02. Approved Agreed
8.2 S2-2108570 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] LS on support of DCS variants in UE Onboarding Architecture Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 r06 agreed. Revised to S2-2109258. Rainer (Nokia) proposes to note the LS in 8570.
Qianghua (Huawei) replies
Rainer (Nokia) replies and asks for clarification.
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides comment that the SA3 is aware and no need for any LS
Rainer (Nokia) provides r01.
Qianghua (Huawei) provides r02
Fei (OPPO) provides r03.
Saso (Intel) provides r04.
Rainer (Nokia) provides r05.
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides r06
Rainer (Nokia) replies, is ok with r06.
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Megha (Intel) provides comments.
Qianghua (Huawei) OK with r06
Megha (Intel) OK with r06.
Fei (OPPO) is fine with r06.
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Revised
8.2 S2-2109258 LS OUT Approval LS on support of DCS variants in UE Onboarding Architecture SA WG2 Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108570r06. Approved Approved
8.2 S2-2108572 CR Approval 23.501 CR3395 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification for SNPN access using CH credentials and NSAC for onboarding slice Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Covered by S2-2108472 Peter (Ericsson) provides comments
Devaki (Nokia) objects to the first change in this paper, proposes to merge second change with 8472 thus the CR can be noted or partially merged.
Qianghua (Huawei) replies
Antoine (Orange) comments and asks a question.
Qianghua (Huawei) replies and agrees to merge this paper into 08472
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Devaki (Nokia) comments, proposes to consider the paper merged.
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Noted
8.2 S2-2108595 CR Approval 23.501 CR3397 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction on emergency service support in SNPN access mode Vivo Rel-17 Merged into S2-2109259 Peter (Ericsson) provides comments and propose to mark CR as merged into 108328
Huan(vivo) is OK to merge S2-2108595 into 108328.
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Merged
8.2 S2-2108596 CR Approval 23.501 CR3398 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification of access PLMN service via SNPN and vice versa Vivo Rel-17 Noted Sebastian (Qualcomm) objects to the CR
Myungjune (LGE) proposes to note the CR
Kisuk (Samsung) proposes to note the CR
Huan (vivo) clarify and do not think the scenarios proposed by Qualcomm are within the scope of R16 and R17 NPN
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Noted
8.2 S2-2108704 CR Approval 23.501 CR3417 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction on realm part of SNPN NAI SUPI Deutsche Telekom Rel-17 Noted Devaki (Nokia) provides r01.
Jianning (Xiaomi) prefers r01, rather than deleting the existing requirement.
Josep (DT) can live with the proposed r01. Provides r02 with fixed cover sheet fitting r01 changes
Sebastian (Qualcomm) objects to the CR; all versions
Kisuk (Samsung) agrees with Qualcomm's opinion.
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides comments
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Noted
8.2 S2-2108706 CR Approval 23.501 CR3256R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): UE onboarding architecture [Ericsson, ]Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell[, Qualcomm, Lenovo, Motorola Mobility, Huawei] Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2108095 from S2#147E. Postponed Huan (vivo) comments and ask for clarifications
Rainer (Nokia) replies to Huan (vivo).
Haris(Qualcomm) asks question for clarification
Rainer (Nokia) replies.
Haris(Qualcomm) provides r01
Rainer (Nokia) provides r02.
Haris(Qualcomm) replies to Huan (vivo)
Megha (Intel) provides r03 and comments
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides comment and propose to notet he CR as it seems it would not work to support both DCS options with same HNI.
Fei (OPPO) agree with Peter (Ericsson).
Fei (OPPO) comments and provides r04.
Haris(Qualcomm) comments on r04 and asks whether to ask this question to SA3
Qianghua (Huawei) replies
Fei (OPPO) responds
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides comments
Megha (Intel) provides r05 and comments
Megha (Intel) provides comments
Huan (vivo) provides comments
Hualin (Huawei) comments.
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides comment that LS to SA3 would be useful
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Peter Hedman (Ericsson) proposes to postpone THIS CR revision
Megha (Intel) proposes to postpone this CR.
Rainer (Nokia) is ok to postpone 8706.
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Postponed
8.2 S2-2108710 CR Approval 23.501 CR3274R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): ENPN corrections to clarify use of DNN and S-NSSAI for onboarding, AUSF discovery Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Ericsson, Samsung, ZTE Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2108101 from S2#147E. CC#2: r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109349 Qianghua (Huawei) provides r01
Huan (vivo) comments and provides r02
Rainer (Nokia) cannot accept r02.
Rainer (Nokia) is ok with r01.
Fei (OPPO) shares concern raised by Huan (vivo).
Rainer (Nokia) replies.
Fei (OPPO) can live with it.
Huan (vivo) comments and ask whether need to be discussed in CC
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Huan (vivo) comments and can only accept r02
Qianghua (Huawei) replies and suggests for r01
Huan (vivo) asks for clarfication
Rainer (Nokia) prefers r01.
Huan (vivo) provides comments
Ashok (Samsung) requests for clarification from Huan (vivo) and also prefers r01
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) prefers r01
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Revised
8.2 S2-2109349 CR Approval 23.501 CR3274R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): ENPN corrections to clarify use of DNN and S-NSSAI for onboarding, AUSF discovery Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Ericsson, Samsung, ZTE Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108710r02. CC#2: Approved Agreed
8.2 S2-2108715 CR Approval 23.503 CR0661R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification for PVS address formats Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Ericsson, Samsung, ZTE Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2108107 from S2#147E. Approved Agreed
8.2 S2-2108726 CR Approval 23.502 CR3280 (Rel-17, 'F'): 23.502 Clarification on NF discovery by NRF in Onboarding or external authentication scenario Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 r03 agreed. Revised to S2-2109262. Josep (DT) proposes to NOTE.
Hualin(Huawei) replied to Josep (DT) and provide r01.
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides r02
Josep (DT) comments, provides r03.
Hualin(Huawei) is ok with r03.
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8.2 S2-2109262 CR Approval 23.502 CR3280R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): 23.502 Clarification on NF discovery by NRF in Onboarding or external authentication scenario Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108726r03. Approved Agreed
8.2 S2-2108727 CR Approval 23.502 CR3281 (Rel-17, 'F'): 23.502 Update procedure of Registration with Onboarding SNPN Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 r04 agreed. Revised to S2-2109263. Rainer (Nokia) provides r01.
Jianning (Xiaomi) provides comment
Hualin(Huawei) replied to Jianning (Xiaomi).
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides r02
Jianning (Xiaomi) provide comment
Hualin(Huawei) provide r03 based on the comments.
Rainer (Nokia) replies, cannot accept r03.
Hualin(Huawei) provide r04.
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Rainer (Nokia) replies.
Hualin(Huawei) replies.
Rainer (Nokia) is ok with r04.
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) ok with r04
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Revised
8.2 S2-2109263 CR Approval 23.502 CR3281R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): 23.502 Update procedure of Registration with Onboarding SNPN Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108727r04. Approved Agreed
8.2 S2-2108783 CR Approval 23.502 CR3206R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Adding PVS information as imput to SMF and PCF sevice operation. ZTE, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2108106 from S2#147E. CC#2: Revised to remove the change to Step 1 in S2-2109350 Ashok (Samsung) comments
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Zhendong (ZTE): provides the repsonse
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Revised
8.2 S2-2109350 CR Approval 23.502 CR3206R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): Adding PVS information as imput to SMF and PCF sevice operation. ZTE, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Ericsson, Samsung Rel-17 CC#2: Revision of S2-2108783, removing change to Step 1. Approved Agreed
8.2 S2-2108810 CR Approval 23.501 CR3431 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction for switching 3GPP access between SNPN and PLMN Xiaomi Rel-17 Confirm CR Number - CR states 8810! r03 agreed. Revised to S2-2109264. Devaki (Nokia) comments that the CR seems unnecessary, also do not see the need to introduce non-SNPN AM for PLMN case.
Youngkyo(Samsung) shares the same view with Devaki (Nokia).
Josep (DT) supports this CR, provides r01 and co-signs.
Jianning (Xiaomi) is fine with r01, and replies to Youngkyo(Samsung) and Devaki (Nokia)
Sebastian (Qualcomm) objects to the CR; all versions
Jianning (Xiaomi) replies to Sebastian (Qualcomm)
Josep (DT) fully agrees with Jianning (Xiaomi).
Jianning (Xiaomi) provides r02
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides r03
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Jianning (Xiaomi) can live with r03
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) comments. Can update following below still? Otherwise it is not consistent and may be interpreted incorrect? We can also do it next meeting, i.e. can postpone for this meeting.
Jianning (Xiaomi) replies to Dieter (DT), propose to approve r03 + add 'the network selection is performed as specified in TS 23.122[17],' in second paragraph as Dieter suggested, in CC#2
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) that is agreeable.
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8.2 S2-2109264 CR Approval 23.501 CR3431R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction for switching 3GPP access between SNPN and PLMN Xiaomi, Deutsche Telekom Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108810r03. Approved Agreed
8.2 S2-2108811 CR Approval 23.501 CR3432 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification for Credential Holder Xiaomi Rel-17 Merged into S2-2109260 Devaki (Nokia) provides r01 (although need for the CR is unclear, if it remains, r01 proposes correction to the statement).
Kisuk (Samsung) comments.
Jianning (Xiaomi) is fine with r01
Qianghua (Huawei) comments
Sebastian (Qualcomm) proposes to merge with S2-2108466
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) agree that 108466 is more complete i.e. better to mark this as merged into 108466
Jianning (Xiaomi) is fine to merge with 8466
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Merged
8.2 S2-2108828 CR Approval 23.503 CR0688 (Rel-17, 'F'): URSP associatied to registered SNPN MediaTek Inc. Rel-17 Postponed Devaki (Nokia) provides r01.
Josep (DT) objects to this CR.
Jianning (Xiaomi) provides view
Antoine (Orange) replies.
Jianning (Xiaomi) replies
Chia-Lin (MediaTek) replies and provides r02
Josep (DT) comments, provides r03.
Chia-Lin (MediaTek) provides more clarification
Antoine (Orange) provides r04.
Josep (DT) agrees with r04.
Sebastian (Qualcomm) objects to the CR (all versions)
Antoine (Orange) .
Devaki (Nokia) comments.
Chia-Lin (MediaTek) provides comments and r05
Josep (DT) supports to postpone.
Sebastian (Qualcomm) replies to Josef
Josep (DT) replies.
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Chia-Lin (MediaTek) provides to postpone the CR since we cannot have any consensus on this
Chia-Lin (MediaTek) provides the understadng from our side and hope we can some feedback on this for next meeting
Josep (DT) comments.
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Chia-Lin (MediaTek) provides the reference content from TS 24.526 below
Postponed
8.2 S2-2108887 CR Approval 23.501 CR3451 (Rel-17, 'F'): Update architecture figure for access to SNPNs using credentials from Credentials Holder using AUSF and UDM Qualcomm Rel-17 Noted Josep (DT) objects to this CR.
Antoine (Orange) objects to this CR.
Sebastian (Qualcomm) asks a question
Antoine (Orange) replies.
Devaki (Nokia) supports the CR (thought I had commented earlier, seems my email was lost!).
Josep (DT) comments.
Sebastian (Qualcomm) replies
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides comments and supports the CR
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Noted
8.2 S2-2108906 CR Approval 23.501 CR3308R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Network slicing support for SNPN China Mobile Rel-17 Revision of (Noted) S2-2107501 from S2#147E. Confirm CR Revision - CR states 1! Noted Peter (Ericsson) provides comments and propose to note this CR
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Devaki (Nokia) is not aligned with SoH outcome on Monday, objects to the CR.
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Noted
8.2 S2-2108908 CR Approval 23.228 CR1249 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction on IMS service provided to SNPN by independent IMS provider China Mobile Rel-17 Noted Rainer (Nokia) provides r01.
Haris(Qualcomm) asks question for clarification
Rainer (Nokia) replies to Haris (Qualcomm), agrees that 8908 is not needed.
Yi (China Mobile) replies to Haris and provides r02.
Antoine (Orange) also agrees that the CR is not needed.
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Yi (China Mobile) replies to Antoine.
Antoine (Orange) objects this CR (all versions).
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Noted
8.2 S2-2108916 CR Approval 23.501 CR3256R4 (Rel-17, 'F'): UE onboarding architecture [Ericsson, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Qualcomm, Lenovo, Motorola Mobility, Huawei],Intel Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2108095 from S2#147E. CC#2: Postponed Peter (Ericsson) provides a questions and a comment
Qianghua (Huawei) provides comments
Rainer (Nokia) comments.
Megha (Intel) provides r01 and comments
Rainer (Nokia) asks for clarification.
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) prefers that there is an understanding of how the changes works before accepting them.
Qianghua (Huawei) replies
Hualin(Huawei) provide comments.
Rainer (Nokia) replies.
Saso (Intel) replies.
Haris(Qualcomm) comments
Haris(Qualcomm) provides r02
Saso (Intel) comments on r02
Rainer (Nokia) cannot accept r02.
Haris(Qualcomm) asks question on the SA3 agreement
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides comments and propose to add the questions raised here to the LS to SA3
Hualin(Huawei) is confused and comments.
Megha (Intel) provides r03 and comments
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides question
Megha (Intel) provides further comments
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Haris(Qualcomm) objects to this CR (all revisions inc the one I provided)
Saso (Intel) points out that Haris's (Qualcomm) comment is misleading. Proposes to approve r03.
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides comments and propose to postpone the CR and mark that SA2 alignment with SA3 is to be done at the next SA2 meeting
Haris(Qualcomm) reiterates objection
Saso (Intel) replies to Peter Hedman (Ericsson) and Haris (Qualcomm); reiterates to approved r03 based on the provided clarifications.
Megha (Intel) requests to mark this document for CC#2.
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Haris(Qualcomm) suggests revision to be discussed in CC#2
Postponed
8.2 S2-2108918 DISCUSSION Approval Support of 5G ProSe in PNI NPNs. Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Noted Josep (DT) asks questions for clarification.
Marco (Huawei) answers to Josep (DT)
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides comments
Josep (DT) comments.
Haris(Qualcomm) comments
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8.2 S2-2109020 LS In Action LS from SA WG3: LS on conclusions of authentication methods for initial access for onboarding. SA WG3 (S3-214334) Rel-17 Postponed Postponed
8.3 - - - Enhancement of support for Edge Computing in 5GC (eEDGE_5GC) - - Docs:=52 -
8.3 - - - General - - Docs:=3 -
8.3 S2-2108294 LS In Information LS from SA WG6: Reply LS on the definition of EAS and EAS context SA WG6 (S6-212391) Rel-17 Noted Dario S. Tonesi (Qualcomm) suggests to note this LS.
Hui (Huawei) support to note this LS.
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Noted
8.3 S2-2108719 CR Approval 23.548 CR0018R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Mega CR for minor fixes to TS 23.548 Huawei (Rapporteur) Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2108108 from S2#147E. r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109265. Hui (Huawei) provides r01
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Revised
8.3 S2-2109265 CR Approval 23.548 CR0018R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): Mega CR for minor fixes to TS 23.548 Huawei (Rapporteur) Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108719r01. Approved Agreed
8.3 - - - EAS discovery - - Docs:=16 -
8.3 S2-2108408 CR Approval 23.548 CR0001R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction related to uniqueness of Update related to a buffered DNS message in EASDF Ericsson, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of (Endorsed) S2-2108111 from S2#147E. r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109266. Xinpeng(Huawei) provides r02.
Tingfang Tang (Lenovo) provides r01.
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Tingfang Tang (Lenovo) is OK with r01, r02, object r00.
Magnus H (Ericsson) we are ok with r02 as proposed by chairman
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Revised
8.3 S2-2109266 CR Approval 23.548 CR0001R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction related to uniqueness of Update related to a buffered DNS message in EASDF Ericsson, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108408r02. Approved Agreed
8.3 S2-2108422 CR Approval 23.548 CR0017R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Updates on EAS Discovery Procedure with EASDF Huawei, HiSilicon,Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Lenovo, Motorola Mobility, Ericsson, Tencent, Samsung, China Mobile, Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2108116 from S2#147E. CC#2: r05 + changes agreed. Revised to S2-2109267, merging S2-2108621 Magnus H (Ericsson) provides r01
Dan(China Mobile) provides r02
Xinpeng(Huawei) provides r03.
Magnus H (Ericsson) comments
Dan (China Mobile) ask a question
Tingfang Tang (Lenovo) replies and provides r04
Magnus H (Ericsson) provides r05
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Dan(China Mobile) is OK with r05
Xinpeng(Huawei) agrees with r05.
Laurent (Nokia): we shall remove the 5th change in the final version
Dan(China Mobile) request Laurent to maybe provide the exact part which we should correct
Magnus H (Ericsson) agrees with r05, but the indicated deletion under 5th change of clause 6.2.3.4.1 is not to be done. We see this as an editorial cleanup of the CR since CR has an updated part of 6.2.3.4.1 under second change
Xinpeng(Huawei) based on r05, suggests to change 'External Group Identifier' to 'External Group Identifier/Internal Group Identifier' in Table 6.2.3.4-1 Description of EAS Deployment Information.
Dan(China Mobile) understand the meaning of the 5th change now, the 6.2.3.4 and 6.2.3.4.1 will not be shown in the CR to avoid the misunderstanding in final version. Also request to change 'External Group Identifier' to 'External Group Identifier/Internal Group Identifier' in Table 6.2.3.4-1 .If needed we can do this in CC#2. Just small correction.
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Revised
8.3 S2-2109267 CR Approval 23.548 CR0017R4 (Rel-17, 'F'): Updates on EAS Discovery Procedure with EASDF Huawei, HiSilicon,Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Lenovo, Motorola Mobility, Ericsson, Tencent, Samsung, China Mobile, Rel-17 CC#2: Revision of S2-2108422r05 + changes, merging S2-2108621. Approved Agreed
8.3 S2-2108621 CR Approval 23.548 CR0017R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): Updates on EAS Discovery Procedure with EASDF Huawei, HiSilicon, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Lenovo, Motorola Mobility, Ericsson, Tencent, Samsung Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2108116 from S2#147E. Merged into S2-2109267 Hui (Huawei) suggests to merge this paper to S2-2108422.
Laurent (Nokia): suggests merging 8422 and 8621 that are revisions of the same CR from last meeting.
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Xinpeng(Huawei) confirms 8621 is merged into 8422.
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Merged
8.3 S2-2108622 CR Approval 23.501 CR3299R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): 501 EASDF Service correction Huawei, HiSilicon, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2108118 from S2#147E. Approved Agreed
8.3 S2-2108790 CR Approval 23.502 CR3185R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Update Nnef_EASDeployment services Tencent, Tencent Cloud, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Huawei, Hisilicon, Ericsson, CATT, Lenovo, Motorola Mobility, China Mobile Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2108119 from S2#147E. CC#2: r03 + changes agreed. Revised to S2-2109268. Laurent (Nokia): provides r01
Xinpeng(Huawei) provides r02.
Magnus H (Ericsson) provides r03
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Dan (China Mobile) is OK with r03
Xinpeng(Huawei) only agrees with r03, and not ok for any other revisions.
Laurent (Nokia): I have a slight concern with R02 and R03 (removal of EAS Deployment Information reference)
Xinpeng(Huawei) replies to Laurent(Nokia).
Magnus H (Ericsson) comments
Xinpeng(Huawei) provides comments.
Magnus H (Ericsson) update previous comment
Xinpeng(Huawei) replies.
Tingfang Tang (Lenovo) asks question about r02 and r03 about EAS Deployment Information reference .
Magnus H (Ericsson) answers Tingfang (Lenovo)
Dan (China Mobile) request this for CC#2 with updating 5.2.6.26.4 by moving 'S-NSSAI, DNN' from input optional to input required.
Xinpeng(Huawei) replies to Magnus H (Ericsson).
Xinpeng(Huawei) provides further comments.
Tingfang Tang (Lenovo) comments .
Laurent (Nokia): Comments. I have reached my goal, the Tdoc needs a small update
Dan(China Mobile) provide an update summary
Magnus H (Ericsson) concludes that we are still discussing and that it would be best if CR is postponed to next meeting
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Dan(China Mobile) do not agree to postpond this paper, and I would like to point it, your discussion is not related with what we want to do for group level EDI,postpond this paper the original cr will be sent to SA plenary as well.
Laurent (Nokia): suggests we approve 8790r03 with SA2 meeting notes that tell that work on the EDI API parameters (e.g. which parameters are Mandatory and which optional ) may take place at next meeting
Revised
8.3 S2-2109268 CR Approval 23.502 CR3185R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): Update Nnef_EASDeployment services Tencent, Tencent Cloud, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Huawei, Hisilicon, Ericsson, CATT, Lenovo, Motorola Mobility, China Mobile Rel-17 CC#2: Revision of S2-2108790r03 + changes. Approved Agreed
8.3 S2-2108978 CR Approval 23.502 CR3313 (Rel-17, 'F'): Corrections to AF Requests and Notification Procedures Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Noted Tingfang Tang (Lenovo) provides r01.
Shubhranshu (Nokia) provides r02
Tingfang Tang (Lenovo) replies to Shubhranshu.
Shubhranshu (Nokia) provides r03
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Hui (Huawei) fine with r03
Magnus H (Ericsson) objects to all revisions except r01
Tingfang Tang (Lenovo) objects r02, accepts r01, can live with r03.
Shubhranshu (Nokia) proposes to agree r03
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Noted
8.3 S2-2108409 CR Approval 23.548 CR0036 (Rel-17, 'F'): Improvements and correction to annex C Ericsson, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Qualcomm incorporated Rel-17 r06 agreed. Revised to S2-2109269. Hui (Huawei) provides r01.
Dario (Qualcomm) asks question on r01
Changhong (Intel) comments.
Tingfang Tang (Lenovo) provides r02.
Magnus H (Ericsson) comments
Hui (Huawei) replies to Dario
Magnus H (Ericsson) provides r03
Changhong (Intel) provides r04
Hui (Huawei) supports r04
Dario (Qualcomm) provides r05
Magnus H (Ericsson) provides r06
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Dario (Qualcomm) is OK with r06
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Revised
8.3 S2-2109269 CR Approval 23.548 CR0036R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Improvements and correction to annex C Ericsson, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Qualcomm incorporated Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108409r06. Approved Agreed
8.3 S2-2108411 CR Approval 23.548 CR0005R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Not all EC scenarios requires EASDF Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of (unhandled) S2-2107239 from S2#147E. Approved Agreed
8.3 S2-2108508 CR Approval 23.548 CR0038 (Rel-17, 'F'): Change of DNS server address during EPC IWK Samsung Rel-17 r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109270. Dario S. Tonesi (Qualcomm) asks question
Jicheol answers to the question of Dario (Qualcomm).
Magnus H (Ericsson) ask questions
Hui (Huawei) provide comments
Changhong (Intel) comments.
Jicheol explains the scenario.
Jicheol comment.
Hui (Huawei) provides r01.
Jicheol (Samsung) is okay with r01.
Dario (Qualcomm) provides r02
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Jicheol (Samsung) is okay with r02.
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8.3 S2-2109270 CR Approval 23.548 CR0038R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Change of DNS server address during EPC IWK Samsung Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108508r02. Approved Agreed
8.3 S2-2108511 CR Approval 23.548 CR0039 (Rel-17, 'F'): Alignment of EASDF functional description Samsung Rel-17 r05 agreed. Revised to S2-2109271. Hui (Huawei) asks for clarification
Xinpeng(Huawei) Provides r01.
Magnus H (Ericsson) provides r02
Xinpeng(Huawei) ask for clarification.
Magnus H (Ericsson) comments
Dario (Qualcomm) provides r04 and asks to ignore r03.
Xinpeng(Huawei) provides r05.
Hui(Huawei) provides r06.
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Xinpeng(Huawei) only agrees with r05, and objects to any other revisions.
Magnus H (Ericsson) r05 is OK
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8.3 S2-2109271 CR Approval 23.548 CR0039R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Alignment of EASDF functional description Samsung Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108511r05. Approved Agreed
8.3 - - - Usage of MNO DNS related - - Docs:=13 -
8.3 S2-2108775 CR Approval 23.548 CR0030R2 (Rel-17, 'C'): EAS rediscovery: Edge DNS Client based EAS (re-)discovery Qualcomm Incorporated, Vodafone, Deutsche Telekom, Telefonica, Verizon, NTT DoCoMo, Telecom Italia, AT&T, Charter, Telstra, KDDI, Matrixx, Convida Wireless, InterDigital, T-Mobile USA, Rogers, Facebook, Orange, Rakuten Mobile, KPN, TNO, Ericsson, China Mo Rel-17 Revision of (Endorsed) S2-2108177 from S2#147E. CC#2: r33 agreed. Revised to S2-2109347, merging S2-2108865 Hui (Huawei) suggests to take this paper to discuss basic EDC solution.
Hui (Huawei) provides r01 based on offline discussion.
Dario (Qualcomm) provides r02
Riccardo (NTT DOCOMO) provides r02.
Saso (Intel) comments on r03.
Dario (Qualcomm) comments on r03
Hui(Huawei) provides summary for further discussion
Zhuoyun (Tencent) comments.
Riccardo (NTT DOCOMO) replies on r03.
Tingfang Tang (Lenovo) provides r04 and r05.
Saso (Intel) replies to Riccardo.
Riccardo (NTT DOCOMO) replies to Saso.
Huazhang (vivo) ask a question.
Riccardo (NTT DOCOMO) replies to Huazhang and Saso.
Sudeep (Apple) provides r07.
Saso (Intel) comments that r04 and r06/r07 are two competing proposals.
Dario (Qualcomm) comments and provide r08.
Hui (Huawei) provides r10 based on r08.
Dario (Qualcomm) provides r11
Zhuoyun (Tencent) provides r12.
Huazhang (vivo) provides r13 based on r12 and merge the content from paper 8547
Hui (Huawei) comments to r11
Hui (Huawei) asks question to Zhuoyun.
Zhuoyun (Tencent) replies to Hui.
Hui (Huawei) replies to Zhuoyun.
Riccardo (NTT DOCOMO) is fine with r11 and does not like r12/r13.
Yang (OPPO) support Tencent's comment and ask question to Huawei.
Huazhang (vivo) provide r14 based on r11
Hui(Huawei) responses and proposes a way forward.
Yang (OPPO) further comments.
Susana (Vodafone) comments and provides r15 on the top of r11.
Yang (OPPO) uploads r17 removing 'force' indication.
Sudeep (Apple) comments on r15.
Huazhang (vivo) don't accept to remove the UE capability of support EDC in this paper
Riccardo (NTT DOCOMO) comments on Hui's proposed way forward
Svante (Sony) comments on r15
Huazhang (vivo) provides r19 based on r10, to add the EDC function is a UE capability
Josep (DT) asks for clarification whether r18, r19 are unclaimed, proposes wording for NOTE 4.
Hui (Huawei) provides r20
Susana (Vodafone) replies to Svante and Sudeep
Dario (Qualcomm) provides r22 and r23
Hui(Huawei) suggests to continue the discussion using r20.
Zhuoyun (Tencent) provides r24.
Tingfang Tang (Lenovo) comments and provides r25.
Huazhang (vivo) provides r26 to combine 22,23 and 20, and move forward, r26 is a minimum sets of our agreements in EDC to end this long long discussions. but R24 is also ok to me. I didn't find r25 in email.
Zhuoyun (Tencent) provides r28.
Dario (Qualcomm) provides r29
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Yang (OPPO) doubt the value of voting in CC until the technical concern can be resolved. Object r29 and any version including 'force' indication
Hui(Huawei) provides draft r30v1 for discussion.
Zhuoyun (Tencent) objects all the versions with introducing the feature of forcing the EDC usage for all the applications within certain PDU session. We prefer r12, is also fine with r04, r16, r17, r24, r26, r28, and object other versions.
Riccardo (NTT DOCOMO) prefers r23 and can accept r29/r30. Objects: r12, r13, r16, r17, r24, r26, r28.
Sudeep (Apple) comments on draftr30v1.
Huazhang (vivo) can only accept r14, objects any version.
But Huazhang can live with r26 r28 r29 and r30 add this sentence:
A UE that hosts EDC function may indicate this UE capability in the PCO during the PDU session establishment procedure that the 5GC determines the DNS query triggered in this PDU session is guaranteed to be sent to DNS server indicated by MNO. And the EDC functionality includes the following functionalities: XXXXX
Xiaobo Yu (Alibaba) can live with r12 and objects to any other revision.
Dario (Qualcomm) provides r31 for discussion in CC#2
Yang (OPPO) comments.
Dario (Qualcomm) provides r31b to be used with r31 in CC#2.
Svante (Sony) provide additional comments and accept r31b, r28 and r24. We object to r29, r26, r23, r22 and all other versions there the UE enforce that the application uses the EDC.
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Xiaobo Yu (Alibaba) provides r31c base on the r31 for CC#2.
Yang (OPPO) provides 31d and responds to Xiaobo and Riccardo.
Riccardo (NTT DOCOMO) is positive on r31c.
Susana (Vodafone) can live with r31c
Hui (Huawei) thanks Xiaobo and Yang for the compromise proposal and asks whether we can go with r31c.
Jinhua(Xiaomi) agree with Yang, we prefer 8775r31d, Both 8775r31d and 8775r31c are OK for us.
Zhuoyun (Tencent) prefers r31d, can also go with r31c.
Sudeep (Apple) comments on r31c.
Huazhang (vivo) prefers r31d, can also go with r31c to finally solve the EDC issues in this year
Svante (Sony) Thanks for the compromised versions. We accepts the r31c version to be able to move forward.
Yang (OPPO) thanks for people's work and can live with r33.
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8.3 S2-2109347 CR Approval 23.548 CR0030R4 (Rel-17, 'C'): EAS rediscovery: Edge DNS Client based EAS (re-)discovery Qualcomm Incorporated, Vodafone, Deutsche Telekom, Telefonica, Verizon, NTT DoCoMo, Telecom Italia, AT&T, Charter, Telstra, KDDI, Matrixx, Convida Wireless, InterDigital, T-Mobile USA, Rogers, Facebook, Orange, Rakuten Mobile, KPN, TNO, Ericsson, China Mobile, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Reliance Jio, China Unicom, Huawei, HiSilicon, NEC, Sandvine, Amdocs, SK Telekom, Xiaomi Rel-17 CC#2: Revision of S2-2108775r33, merging S2-2108865. Approved Agreed
8.3 S2-2108694 DISCUSSION Agreement Way forward for criteria to use the EDC functionality NTT DOCOMO Rel-17 Noted Dario S. Tonesi (Qualcomm) comments
Riccardo (NTT DOCOMO) clarifies this is a DP.
Dario (Qualcomm) thanks Riccardo and withdraws his previous comment.
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8.3 S2-2108865 CR Approval 23.548 CR0030R3 (Rel-17, 'C'): EAS rediscovery: Edge DNS Client based EAS (re-)discovery NTT DOCOMO Rel-17 Revision of (Endorsed) S2-2108177 from S2#147E Merged into S2-2109347 Hui (Huawei) suggests to consider this paper as merged into S2-2108775..
Riccardo (NTT DOCOMO) is fine to merge this tdoc into S2-2108775.
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8.3 S2-2108776 DISCUSSION Endorsement Considerations on trigger conditions for EDC usage. Qualcomm Incorporated Rel-17 Noted Hui (Huawei) proposes to note this discussion paper.
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Noted
8.3 S2-2108777 CR Approval 23.548 CR0031R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): UE authorization for 5GC assisted EAS discovery Qualcomm Incorporated, Vodafone, Telstra, NTT DoCoMo, Deutsche Telekom, T-Mobile USA, AT&T, Verizon, Orange, Matrixx, Rakuten Mobile, KPN, TNO, China Mobile, Amdocs Rel-17 Revision of (Endorsed) S2-2108110 from S2#147E. r03 agreed. Revised to S2-2109272. Tingfang Tang (Lenovo) provides r01.
Magnus O (Ericsson) comments
Dario (Qualcomm) provides r02 to address Magnus' comments.
Sudeep (Apple) comments on r02.
Magnus O (Ericsson) provides r03
Dario (Qualcomm) is OK with r03
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8.3 S2-2109272 CR Approval 23.548 CR0031R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): UE authorization for 5GC assisted EAS discovery Qualcomm Incorporated, Vodafone, Telstra, NTT DoCoMo, Deutsche Telekom, T-Mobile USA, AT&T, Verizon, Orange, Matrixx, Rakuten Mobile, KPN, TNO, China Mobile, Amdocs Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108777r03. Approved Agreed
8.3 S2-2108547 CR Approval 23.548 CR0041 (Rel-17, 'F'): A new UE capability to support EDC Vivo Rel-17 Noted Dario S. Tonesi (Qualcomm) comments
Huazhang (vivo) reply to Dario(QC)
Dario (Qualcomm) replies to Huazhang.
Huazhang (vivo) replies to Dario that the content of this paper has been reflected in 8775r13
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Dario (Qualcomm) objects this CR
Huazhang (vivo) merge this CR to S2-2108775 that the UE capability has been written in 8775
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Noted
8.3 S2-2108548 CR Approval 23.502 CR3254 (Rel-17, 'F'): A new UE capability to support EDC Vivo Rel-17 Noted Dario S. Tonesi (Qualcomm) think that, as for 8547, 8548 is not needed.
Huazhang (vivo) replys to Dario and provide r01
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Dario (Qualcomm) objects to r00 and r01
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Noted
8.3 S2-2108506 CR Approval 23.548 CR0037 (Rel-17, 'F'): EAS re-discovery indication and its procedure performed by EDC Samsung Rel-17 Noted Dario S. Tonesi (Qualcomm) comments
Jicheol (Samsung) comments
Tingfang Tang (Lenovo) comments.
Susana (Vodafone) agrees with Lenovo and Qualcomm that nothing needs to be added. Proposal to note this document
Dario (Qualcomm) supports to note this paper.
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8.3 S2-2108544 CR Approval 23.548 CR0020R1 (Rel-17, 'B'): Provision of DNS server IP address to applications independent of UE OS capability Vivo Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107537 from S2#147E. Noted Dario S. Tonesi (Qualcomm) asks questions for clarification.
Huazhang (vivo) response to Dario and provide r01
Magnus H (Ericsson) comments: Not comfortable with cat B CR at this point in time
Huazhang (vivo) clarify the reason to Magnus(Ericsson)
Dario (Qualcomm) asks an additional question
Huazhang (vivo) reply to Dario and provide r02
Changhong (Intel) comments.
Huazhang (vivo) replys to Changhong
Huazhang (vivo) reply to Magnus and provide r03, put the details to Annex, I don't want to put forward such new features
Huazhang (vivo) provides r04
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Dario (Qualcomm): all revisions (including r0) have problems and that he cannot be accepted.
Magnus H (Ericsson) objects to this CR
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8.3 S2-2108971 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] LS on Defining test cases for E2E verification of Edge Application Server Discovery Apple r00 agreed. Revised to S2-2109255. Revised
8.3 S2-2109255 LS OUT Approval Defining test cases for E2E verification of Edge Application Server Discovery SA WG2 - Revision of S2-2108971r00. Approved Approved
8.3 - - - Edge Relocation - - Docs:=6 -
8.3 S2-2108311 CR Approval 23.548 CR0035 (Rel-17, 'F'): Corrections on enabling EAS IP Replacement procedure by AF China Unicom Rel-17 r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109273. Changhong (Intel) provides r01 and cosigns.
Shubhranshu (Nokia) comments
Tianqi (China Unicom) provides r02.
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8.3 S2-2109273 CR Approval 23.548 CR0035R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Corrections on enabling EAS IP Replacement procedure by AF China Unicom, Intel Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108311r02. Approved Agreed
8.3 S2-2108351 CR Approval 23.501 CR3363 (Rel-17, 'F'): Additional information/parameter for AF Influence request Oracle Rel-17 Noted Shubhranshu (Nokia) asks for clarifications
Tingfang Tang (Lenovo) asks questions.
Changhong (Intel) comments.
Magnus H (Ericsson) comments
Hui (Huawei) comments
Tingfang Tang (Lenovo) comments.
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Changhong (Intel) has concern with this paper.
Shubhranshu (Nokia) also has concerns and do not agree to this CR
Changhong (Intel) also proposes to NOTE the CR, we need more time to think about it.
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Noted
8.3 S2-2108410 CR Approval 23.548 CR0006R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction related to AF request for simultaneous connectivity over source and target PSA at edge relocation Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of (Noted) S2-2107240 from S2#147E. Noted Dario S. Tonesi (Qualcomm) asks question for clarification
Changhong (Intel) comments.
Dan (China Mobile) support Changhong's comments.
Magnus H (Ericsson) provides r01
Susana (Vodafone) asks question for clarification
Hui (Huawei) don't think we need this CR.
Magnus H (Ericsson) comments
Hui (Huawei) provides further comments and proposes to note the paper.
Magnus H (Ericsson) comment and proposes not to note this paper.
Hui (Huawei) replies.
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Magnus H (Ericsson) replies to Hui
Hui (Huawei) replies to Magnus
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8.3 S2-2108545 CR Approval 23.548 CR0040 (Rel-17, 'F'): Added the situation of AF relocation to uplink Packet Buffer Vivo, NTT DOCOMO Rel-17 r03 agreed. Revised to S2-2109274. Shubhranshu (Nokia) asks for clarifications
Huazhang (vivo) reply to Shubhranshu and provides r01
Magnus O (Ericsson) comments
Huazhang (vivo) provide r02 and response to Magnus
Shubhranshu (Nokia) provides r03
Huazhang(vivo) reply to Shubhranshu (Nokia) r03 is ok
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Huazhang(vivo) is ok to go ahead with r03
Magnus O (Ericsson) is ok with r03
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8.3 S2-2109274 CR Approval 23.548 CR0040R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Added the situation of AF relocation to uplink Packet Buffer Vivo, NTT DOCOMO Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108545r03. Approved Agreed
8.3 - - - Local Exposure - - Docs:=6 -
8.3 S2-2108549 DISCUSSION Information Unclear issues in local NEF discovery and way forward vivo Rel-17 Noted Noted
8.3 S2-2108546 CR Approval 23.548 CR0022R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Local NEF selection Vivo Rel-17 Revision of (Noted) S2-2107539 from S2#147E. Merged into S2-2109348 Haiyang (Huawei) suggests to use S2-2108675 as baseline (i.e. mark this paper merged into 8675 or noted)
Laurent (Nokia): suggests to take this paper 8546 as the baseline
Laurent (Nokia): provides r01
Magnus H (Ericsson) provides r02
Haiyang (Huawei) suggests to note this CR (all revisions)
Huazhang (vivo) replys to Haiyang, and could you please clarify the technique reason of why you don't like the procedure
Yang (OPPO) consider the procedure is needed
Haiyang (Huawei) replies to Yang (OPPO)
Laurent (Nokia): answers
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Huazhang (vivo) merge this paper to 8675, due to we will go ahead on 8675 of local NEF selection
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Merged
8.3 S2-2108675 CR Approval 23.548 CR0042 (Rel-17, 'F'): Local NEF selection China Mobile Rel-17 CC#2: r09 + changes agreed. Revised to S2-2109348, merging S2-2108546 and S2-2108858 Haiyang (Huawei) provides r01.
Laurent (Nokia): Comments and suggests to take either 8546 or 8858 as baseline for this topic
Huazhang (vivo): Comments and suggests to take either 8546 or 8858 as baseline for this topic
Dan (China Mobile)response
Laurent (Nokia): answers, proposes to merge in this paper into 8546 (not mine)
Dan(China Mobile)provide r02
Magnus H (Ericsson) provides r03
Haiyang (Huawei) can only accept r01.
Huazhang (vivo) replys and provide r04 based on r03, move some of the content in 8546 into r04. Also, provides the unsolved things in local NEF selection, which we can't avoid and don't solve.
Dan (China Mobile) provide r05 based on r01
Huazhang (vivo) provide r06 based on r05
Haiyang (Huawei) provides r07 based on r06
Huazhang (vivo) provides r08 based on r07
Laurent (Nokia): answers with concerns
Haiyang (Huawei) provides r09
Laurent (Nokia): provides r11 and r12
Haiyang (Huawei) comments
Dan(China Mobile) provide r13 based on r11 with changing internal/external to trust/untrust.
Haiyang (Huawei) comments if it is trusted AF, there is no need for NEF at all based on current specs
Laurent (Nokia): provides r14
Dan(China Mobile) provide r14 to reflect Haiyang's comment
Dan(China Mobile) provide r15 to reflect Haiyang's comment
Dan(China Mobile) provide r16 based on R14 laurent provide with some correction for AF
Haiyang (Huawei) comments that even if the AF cannot provide DNAI, the NEF could get it based on local configuration.
Dan (China Mobile) ask,
Huazhang(vivo) provide r17 based on R16 as compromise
Haiyang(Huawei) replies to Dan(China Mobile)
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Haiyang(Huawei) can only accept r01, r07 or r09, and objects to all other versions.
Huazhang (vivo) propose we go with r09 because this topic has been discussed so long and no results, firstly we can reach some agreements in some area.
Dan (China Mobile) OK we go with r09
Laurent (Nokia): objects to R00, R01, R03, R04, R05, R06, R07, R08, R09, R15
Magnus H (Ericsson) prefers r09 over the non objected revisions (r01 and r07).
Dan (China Mobile) check all the versions, I would like to let people to check whether r14 is OK , we can accept r14
Dan (China Mobile) take it back the previous email, and suggest people to check r11.
Huazhang (vivo) can accept r14
Magnus H (Ericsson) cannot accept r14, if we are not going with r09, r03 is proposed.
Dan (China Mobile) would like to clarify something and suggest to endorse r09
Laurent (Nokia): We need to discuss this at CC2
Dan(China Mobile): agree that we should work together and in CC#2, with a suitable NOTE adding, maybe we can get consensus.
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Huazhang (vivo): provides r18 based on r09 to move forward for the trigger of local NEF selection and AF request redirect. I delete all of the controversal parts to move ahead.
Dan (China Mobile) suggest we can move forward based on Huazhang r18
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8.3 S2-2109348 CR Approval 23.548 CR0042R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Local NEF selection China Mobile Rel-17 CC#2: Revision of S2-2108675r09 + changes, merging S2-2108546 and S2-2108858. Approved Agreed
8.3 S2-2108858 CR Approval 23.548 CR0025R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Procedure for local NEF selection Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of (Noted) S2-2107646 from S2#147E. Merged into S2-2109348 Haiyang (Huawei) suggests to use S2-2108675 as baseline (i.e. mark this paper merged into 8675 or noted)
Laurent (Nokia): Suggests to take 8546 (not mine) as a baseline so merges 8858 into 8546
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Merged
8.3 S2-2108859 CR Approval 23.502 CR3204R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Procedure for local NEF selection Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of (Noted) S2-2107647 from S2#147E. Noted Haiyang (Huawei) suggests to note this paper.
Magnus H (Ericsson) comments
Laurent (Nokia): answers
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Noted
8.3 - - - Service specific information provisioning - - Docs:=3 -
8.3 S2-2108503 CR Approval 23.502 CR3155R2 (Rel-17, 'B'): Correction of UE Policies delivery notification Samsung Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2108113 from S2#147E. r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109275, merging S2-2108976 Shubhranshu (Nokia) provides r01
Jicheol (Samsng) provide r02. Jicheol (Samsung) is okay with both r01 and r02.
Shubhranshu (Nokia) is NOT ok to r02 and r00
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Hui(Huawei) fine with r01
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8.3 S2-2109275 CR Approval 23.502 CR3155R4 (Rel-17, 'B'): Correction of UE Policies delivery notification Samsung, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108503r01, merging S2-2108976. Approved Agreed
8.3 S2-2108976 CR Approval 23.502 CR3155R3 (Rel-17, 'B'): Correction of UE Policies delivery notification Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, [Samsung?] Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2108113 from S2#147E. Confirm Sources! Merged into S2-2109275 Jicheol (Samsung) asks a question for clarification
Jicheol (Samsung) also suggests to merge (or discuss) this CR in S2-2108503 since the proposal is conflicted.
Shubhranshu (Nokia) responds
Shubhranshu (Nokia) is ok to merge this paper into S2-2108503
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Merged
8.3 - - - DNAI-based (I-)SMF selection - - Docs:=4 -
8.3 S2-2108717 CR Approval 23.502 CR3277 (Rel-17, 'F'): I-SMF removal triggered by removal of target DNAI Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 CC#2: r04 + changes agreed. Revised to S2-2109276 Tingfang Tang (Lenovo) provides r01.
Shubhranshu (Nokia) comments and asks for clarifications
Hui (Huawei) replies and prefers to r00.
Tingfang Tang (Lenovo) comments.
Yuan Tao (CATT) comments.
Yuan Tao responds to Tingfang Tang (Lenovo).
Hui(Huawei) supports Yuan's view.
Tingfang Tang (Lenovo) replies and can accept the original version.
Magnus O (Ericsson) comments
Hui (Huawei) provides r02
Shubhranshu (Nokia) provides r03
Hui (Huawei) provides r04
Shubhranshu (Nokia) asks for clarification
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Hui (Huawei) replies.
Yuan Tao (CATT) replies to Hui (Huawei).
Yuan Tao (CATT) replies.
Hui (Huawei) provides r05 and asks for discussing on CC#2.
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Revised
8.3 S2-2109276 CR Approval 23.502 CR3277R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): I-SMF removal triggered by removal of target DNAI Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 CC#2: Revision of S2-2108717r04 + changes. Approved Agreed
8.3 S2-2108718 CR Approval 23.501 CR3418 (Rel-17, 'F'): I-SMF removal triggered by removal of target DNAI Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 r03 agreed. Revised to S2-2109277. Tingfang Tang (Lenovo) provides r01.
Shubhranshu (Nokia) comments
Hui (Huawei) still prefers to r00 and replies.
Tingfang Tang (Lenovo) replies and can accept the original version.
Magnus O (Ericsson) comments
Hui (Huawei) replies to Magnus O (Ericsson)
Shubhranshu (Nokia) provides r02
Hui (Huawei) fine with r02
Magnus O (Ericsson) comments again
Hui (Huawei) provides r03
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8.3 S2-2109277 CR Approval 23.501 CR3418R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): I-SMF removal triggered by removal of target DNAI Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108718r03. Approved Agreed
8.3 - - - ECS provisioning - - Docs:=1 -
8.3 S2-2108778 CR Approval 23.502 CR3212R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction of ECS Address Configuration Information Qualcomm Incorporated, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2108120 from S2#147E. Approved Agreed
8.4 - - - Enhancement of Network Slicing Phase 2 (eNS_Ph2) - - Docs:=69 -
8.4 - - - LS in/LS out - - Docs:=22 -
8.4 S2-2108286 LS In Information LS from CT WG4: Reply LS on back-off timer handling when NSSAA is not completed CT WG4 (C4-215491) Rel-17 Noted Jinguo(ZTE) suggest to note this LS since it is for information
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Noted
8.4 S2-2108789 DISCUSSION Agreement Discussion on NSAC for Network Slice Subject to NSSAA. Xiaomi Noted Alessio (Nokia) proposes to note this paper with no specific agreement reached other than the current text in the TS is enough
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Noted
8.4 S2-2108335 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] LS on order of NSSAA and NSAC procedure Ericsson Noted Iskren (NEC) - the answer in the LS is in conflict with the SA2 spec.
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides reply
George (Ericsson) provides a comment to Iskren. The yellow text does not mandate whether NSAC is done before NSSAA or after. In this case, there is UCU and as such the yellow text does not apply; there is no Registration response with an Allowed S-NSSAI; where the highlighted yellow text applies . So U extending the interpretation. If what U are saying is true then we would not have received an LS asking clarification.
Iskren (NEC) answers George
George (Ericsson) comment. The yellow text does not cover the NSSAA. That's all I said. Otherwise why are CT groups seeking clarification.
Iskren (NEC) answers George.
George (Ericsson) comments. We agree to disagree.
Alessio(Nokia) provides r01
George (Ericsson) comments. This LS is the right approach and we should stop this discussion. It is going nowhere.
Jinhua(Xiaomi) comments. 8335r01 is OK for me, and we can revise the state in 502 e.g.'the AMF can be configured to trigger NSSAA before or after NSAC, when EAC active' , same as Peter's proposal.
Iskren (NEC) - the original and r01 are not acceptable as they do not interpret correctly the order between the NSAC and NSSAA defined in the SA2 spec.
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Jinhua replies to Iskren, propose to state the order can be decided by AMF as the operator decision
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides question why r00 is not acceptable by NEC, while we are fine with r01 as well as main purpose is to ask whether SA3 has any concerns as such
Iskren (NEC) answers Peter Hedman (Ericsson)
Tao(VC) then let's try to agree r00 with the condition 8886 r06 approved.
George (Ericsson) comments . R06 can only be Ok with the changes Peter requested. That was clear
alessio(nokia) can only agree r01 as the spec clearly says that NSAC does not happen till after UE configuration update when EAC is not active.
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8.4 S2-2108786 CR Approval 23.502 CR3178R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): TS23.502 Correction of NSAC for network slice subject to NSSAA NEC(?), Ericsson(?), Xiaomi Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107427 from S2#147E. Confirm Sources! Noted Peter (Ericsson) provides comments and r01
Iskren (NEC) - this CR shall be considered as merged to S2-2108886
Fenqin (Huawei) ask a question for clarification
Ashok (Samsung) comments
Jinhua (Xiaomi) proposes to merge 8786 into 8886 for further discussion.
Jinhua(Xiaomi) replies to Ashok Fenqin and Peter,
Fenqin (Huawei) responds
alessio(nokia) requests to note this CR.
Jinhua(Xiaomi) replies to Alessio, 8786 was merged into 8886 for further discussion.
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8.4 S2-2108886 CR Approval 23.502 CR3178R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): TS23.502 Correction of NSAC for network slice subject to NSSAA NEC, Huawei, NTT DOCOMO Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107427 from S2#147E. Confirm CR Revision - CR states 1! Noted Stefano (Qualcomm) provides r01
Jinhua (Xiaomi) provides comments, and proposes to merge 8786 into 8886 for further discussion.
Peter (Ericsson) provides comments
George (Ericsson) Just one additional comment. If the NSAC is done after UE configuration update and the slice was congested, then AMF would have to undo everything and we would have wasted radio resources.
Iskren (NEC) answers question from George (Ericsson)
Iskren (NEC) provides r02
George (Ericsson) comments.
George (Ericsson) comments. We are not OK with r02.
Jinhua (Xiaomi) provides r03.
George (Ericsson) comments. This can't be a note. The note itself contradicts the normative text. So this is NOT OK either.
Jinhua(Xiaomi) replies to George.
Srisakul (NTT DOCOMO) asks question for clarification to George (Ericsson) and Jinhua (Xiaomi).
George (Ericsson) respond. We would have it done after NSAC regardless, or leave it as implementation not an operator policy. This will work either way, and has no interworking impact.
Fenqin (Huawei) comments.
Jinhua(Xiaomi) respond to Srisakul for clarification.
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides comment and a proposal
Jinhua(Xiaomi) replies to Peter,
Alessio(Nokia) proposes to note this CR
Iskren (NEC) provides r04
Srisakul (NTT DOCOMO) comments.
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Iskren (NEC) can agree with r02 or r06
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) proposes to Approve r06 with additional changes i.e. removing the normative paragraph and change 'may' to 'can' in the added note.
Iskren (NEC) answers Peter Hedman (Ericsson) and proposes to Approve r06
Alessio(nokia) proposes to note this CR as it is not providing any improvement and as noted by Peter it is quite confusing
Jinhua(Xiaomi) proposes to approve r02/r06 for progress.
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Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides reply that approving only text in the note as normative text is ok
Noted
8.4 S2-2108287 LS In Action LS from CT WG4: LS on Parameter adding in UEContext to support NSSRG feature CT WG4 (C4-215492) Rel-17 Responses drafted in S2-2108643, S2-2108759 and S2-2108894. Final response in S2-2109142 Replied to
8.4 S2-2108643 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] LS Reply on Parameter adding in UEContext to support NSSRG feature Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Response to S2-2108287. r03 agreed. Revised to S2-2109142, merging S2-2108759 and S2-2108894 Yunjing (CATT) proposes to merge this draft LS into S2-2108759.
Haiyang (Huawei) is OK to merge and discuss it in the 8759 thread.
Ashok (Samsung) comments
Peter (Ericsson) provides comments and r01
Haiyang (Huawei) is OK with r01
Ashok (Samsung) is fine with r01
alessio (nokia) provides r02 to restrict the question to rel-17 parameters only
Jinhua (Xiaomi) provides comments and r03
Haiyang (Huawei) prefers r01
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Peter Hedman (Ericsson) prefer r01, but can live with r03 as well.
alessio (Nokia) can accept r02 and r03.
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8.4 S2-2109142 LS OUT Approval LS Reply on Parameter adding in UEContext to support NSSRG feature SA WG2 Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108643r03, merging S2-2108759 and S2-2108894. Approved Approved
8.4 S2-2108759 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] Response LS on parameter adding in UEContext to support NSSRG feature CATT Rel-17 Response to S2-2108287. Merged into S2-2109142 Peter (Ericsson) provides comments and suggest to mark as merged into S2-2108643
Yunjing (CATT) is fine to merge this paper into S2-2108643
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8.4 S2-2108894 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] Reply LS on Parameter adding in UEContext to support NSSRG feature China Mobile Rel-17 Response to S2-2108287. Merged into S2-2109142 Yunjing (CATT) proposes to merge this draft LS into S2-2108759.
Dan (China Mobile) is OK for merging this paper into S2-2108759.
Peter (Ericsson) provides comments and suggest to mark it merged into S2-2108643
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Dan(China Mobile) OK to mark it merged into S2-2108643
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Merged
8.4 S2-2108758 CR Approval 23.502 CR3285 (Rel-17, 'F'): Update UE context transferred between AMFs CATT Rel-17 Noted Peter (Ericsson) provides comments and propose to mark it as merged into S2-2108895.
Yunjing (CATT) is fine to merge this CR into S2-2108895.
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8.4 S2-2108895 CR Approval 23.502 CR3304 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correct the UDM indication and RFSP index in UE Context in AMF table China Mobile Rel-17 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109143. Yunjing (CATT) proposes to merge this CR into S2-2108758.
Peter (Ericsson) provides comments and r01
Dan (China Mobile) provides r02
Alessio(Nokia) is ok with r02
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Dan(China Mobile) is ok with r02
Haiyang (Huawei) prefers r01, objects r02
Ashok (Samsung) agrees with Haiyang (Huawei) and prefers r01, objects r02
Dan (China Mobile) OK with r01, and r02, but give a suggestion.
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) ok with any of r01 and r02.
alessio(Nokia) prefers r02. can live with r01
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8.4 S2-2109143 CR Approval 23.502 CR3304R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correct the UDM indication and RFSP index in UE Context in AMF table China Mobile, Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108895r01. Approved Agreed
8.4 S2-2108262 LS In Action LS from CT WG1: LS on rejected NSSAI for the maximum number of UE reached when TAIs belonging to different PLMNs CT WG1 (C1-214895) Rel-17 Revision of S2-2107020 from S2#147E. Responses drafted in S2-2108607, S2-2108762, S2-2108806 and S2-2108958. Final response in S2-2109364 Replied to
8.4 S2-2108763 DISCUSSION Agreement Discussion on rejected NSSAI for the maximum number of UE reached when TAIs belonging to different PLMNs. Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Noted Noted
8.4 S2-2108607 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] LS Reply on rejected NSSAI for the maximum number of UE reached when TAIs belonging to different PLMNs ZTE Rel-17 Response to S2-2108262. Noted Haiyang (Huawei) provides comments.
alessio(Nokia) proposes to note this LS as it is mandating a behavior in the CN that is not something that should happen by default.
Jinguo(ZTE) provides r01.
alessio (nokia) repeats we need to take a holistic decision for all the features and not one that works for NSAC and not for others...hence we proposed a generic CR and LS response.
Jinguo(ZTE) replies no agreement that this is a generic issue for other cause value in both SA2 and CT1.
alessio(Nokia) also believes the way this is worded is wrong. objects to this LS text.
Jinguo(ZTE) provides r02
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Stefano (Qualcomm) does not see how we can agree R02.
Tao(VC) check the way forward of the LS OUT, whether 8806 can be approved
Jinguo(ZTE) suggest to go with 8607r02
Haiyang (Huawei) suggests to postpone this LS as discussed in 8608 thread.(i.e. objects to r00, r01 and r02)
alessio(nokia) objects to r00, r01 and r02
Stefano (Qualcomm) thanks Jinguo for the effort but clearly 8607 (and the related CR) cannot be agreed any more than 8806 and the related CR.
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8.4 S2-2108762 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] LS Reply on rejected NSSAI for the maximum number of UE reached when TAIs belonging to different PLMNs Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Response to S2-2108262. Noted Peter (Ericsson) provides comments and question the proposed way forward proposed.
Haiyang (Huawei) replies to Peter (Ericsson).
Stefano (Qualcomm) expresses concerns about underlying assumptions.
Haiyang (Huawei) explains the original assumption should be the Allowed NSSAI should be valid in the whole RA.
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides comments and still have issues with the LS proposal.
Haiyang (Huawei) seeks clarification from Peter Hedman (Ericsson).
Alessio(Nokia) suggest we use the Nokia LS and CR approach as the discussion has generic validity. We do not want to have a behaviour that is specific for each feature.
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Haiyang (Huawei) suggests to go with the original version.
Jinguo(ZTE) suggest to merge this LS into 8607
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8.4 S2-2108806 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] LS Reply on rejected NSSAI for the maximum number of UE reached when TAIs belonging to different PLMNs Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Response to S2-2108262. CC#2: This was left for review at CC#3. CC#3: r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109364 Jinguo(ZTE) suggests merge 8806 into 8607
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) propose to mark the LS as noted
alessio(Nokia) can only accepted the text in the formally agreed LS OUT ( without referring to the CR, we can remove the CR reference if the text in there is agreable). if despite this was approved people object to it, we put on hold any LS on this.
Alessio(nokia) comments that this LS was not receiving any comment so it is agreed per process technically. we can remove any reference to the CR but the technical content seems not challenged. I can work on an update text removing the CR reference and focus on the feedback in bullets 1 AND 2.
Jinguo(ZTE) asks discussion at CC#2
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Alessio( Nokia) provides a modified text that keeps the 'agreed' concepts but removes reference to a CR. add the text as proposed by peter. Asks Jinguo(ZTE) and TAO to insist in obtaining discussion at CC#2
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8.4 S2-2109364 LS OUT Approval LS Reply on rejected NSSAI for the maximum number of UE reached when TAIs belonging to different PLMNs SA WG2 Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108806r02. Approved Approved
8.4 S2-2108958 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] LS Reply on rejected NSSAI for the maximum number of UE reached when TAIs belonging to different PLMNs QUALCOMM Europe Inc. - Italy Rel-17 Response to S2-2108262. Noted Haiyang (Huawei) suggests to note this paper.
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides reply.
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8.4 S2-2108334 CR Approval 23.502 CR3129R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Rejected NSSAI for NSAC Ericsson, Qualcomm Rel-17 Revision of (unhandled) S2-2107120 from S2#147E. Noted Haiyang (Huawei) suggests to note this paper.
Alessio(Nokia) also proposes to note this CR
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides reply
Alessio(Nokia) replies
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8.4 S2-2108608 CR Approval 23.502 CR3261 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on Equivalent PLMN for NSAC ZTE Rel-17 Postponed Peter (Ericsson) provides comments
Haiyang (Huawei) provides comments.
Jinguo(ZTE) provides response and asks question
Jinguo(ZTE) provides r01
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides comments
Jinguo (ZTE) response
alessio(Nokia) objects to this CR
Jinguo(ZTE) reply that the objection has no basis.
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides comments and concerns on applying NSAC on each ePLMN as well as assuming there is some common NSAC quota
Jinguo(ZTE) response
Jinguo(ZTE) provides r02
Haiyang (Huawei) comments on r01
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Jinguo(ZTE) replies to Haiyang.
Haiyang(Huawei) questions to Jinguo(ZTE).
Haiyang(Huawei) comments.
Jinguo(ZTE) response.
Haiyang(Huawei)also suggests to postpone this CR.
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Postponed
8.4 - - - General - - Docs:=6 -
8.4 S2-2108605 CR Approval 23.501 CR3401 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on Multiple NSACFs for S-NSSAI ZTE, NTT DOCOMO, Lenovo, Motorola Mobility Rel-17 r04 agreed. Revised to S2-2109144. Genadi (Lenovo) provides r01 to merge some changes from S2-2108922.
Jinguo (ZTE) provides r02
George (Ericsson) comments
Jinguo(ZTE) provides r03
Genadi (Lenovo) is fine with r03.
Jinhua (Xiaomi) provides r04.
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Srisakul (NTT DOCOMO) ok with r04.
Jinguo (ZTE) ok with r04.
George (Ericsson) OK with r04
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Revised
8.4 S2-2109144 CR Approval 23.501 CR3401R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on Multiple NSACFs for S-NSSAI ZTE, NTT DOCOMO, Lenovo, Motorola Mobility Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108605r04. Approved Agreed
8.4 S2-2108921 CR Approval 23.502 CR3309 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on the NSACF result parameter sent to AMF Lenovo, Motorola Mobility Rel-17 r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109145. George Foti (Ericsson) provides r01. This CR provides good clarification But I think we should remove completely the availability status. The original CR questions its usefulness as well
https://www.3gpp.org/ftp/tsg_sa/WG2_Arch/TSGS2_148E_Electronic_2021-11/INBOX/Revisions/S2-2108921r01.zip
Genadi (Lenovo) agrees with r01 provided by George Foti (Ericsson). Provides r02 to update the cover page.
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George (Ericsson) OK r02
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Revised
8.4 S2-2109145 CR Approval 23.502 CR3309R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on the NSACF result parameter sent to AMF Lenovo, Motorola Mobility Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108921r02. Approved Agreed
8.4 S2-2108644 CR Approval 23.501 CR3411 (Rel-17, 'F'): NSAC for priority services Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Noted George Foti (Ericsson) proposes to note the CR. With support for session continuity ensured for slices subject to NSAC during EPC IWK and inter AMF mobility, this is not needed.
Haiyang (Huawei) indicates this paper is needed in case we cannot have a general solution for session continuity ensured for slices subject to NSAC during EPC IWK and inter AMF mobility this meeting (as already shown in the cover page).
Hoyeon (Samsung) provides a comment.
Haiyang (Huawei) clarifies to Hoyeon (Samsung).
Genadi (Lenovo) provides comments to Haiyang (Huawei).
Srisakul (NTT DOCOMO) provides comments.
George (Ericsson) comments. Adding such an indication serves no purpose. The PDU session is already accepted and is guaranteed NSAC bypass based on the existing specification. So the SMF will do nothing with it, unless U can explain how will the SMF use it.
Haiyang (Huawei) provides r01.
Hoyeon (Samsung) provides comments and proposes to address it as a part of session continuity.
Haiyang (Huawei) replies to Hoyeon (Samsung).
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George (Ericsson) objects to all revisions
Haiyang (Huawei) thinks George (Ericsson)'s objection is not valid
George (Ericsson) respond. I already stated that the session has been admitted and is guaranteed SC because it is high priority. So what is the purpose of telling SMF this is a high priority session, after the session is already admitted. There is no use for it anymore.
Haiyang (Huawei) responds to George (Ericsson)
George (Ericsson) respond. The session is already anchored. So it is subject to handover based on existing procedures and the session should survive unless the handover fails. U miss the point that there is no additional admission in this case. If the session is lost then this UE is subject to regular procedures. Nothing is broken. The case U are citing below is incorrect. There is no additional admission in an already established session regardless of EPC counting or lack there of. The UE may not be able to register but that's different.
Haiyang (Huawei) further responds to George (Ericsson)
George (Ericsson) respond. No for the simple reason that we have to look into support for SC for this one. I don't want what I would label a 'hack' of telling the AMF, please exempt the user because he is engaged in high priority session. I have a fundamental problem with this approach which is not sound.
Haiyang (Huawei) does not think SC could be guaranteed when EPS counting is not required currently. There is additional admission control in an already established session when EPS counting is not required
George (Ericsson) SC is guaranteed as the SMF anchors the sessions. Lets not debate that. It is mute issue. If the UE is not MPS than he may not be allowed to register when the UE registers in 5GC if the slice is subject to NSAC. Now the UE can emergency register in 5GC in this case, and we are good to go. Otherwise we can mandate that slices used for MPS should not be subject to NSAC regardless of EPC or 5GC. We don't need to hack the system for a corner case, and for one session only for the UE; now elevating him to MPS for the session duration.
Haiyang (Huawei) thinks the comment from George (Ericsson) is unfounded. It is clearly stated that in TS 23.501 clause 5.15.11.5 that 'Mobility from EPC to 5GC does not guarantee all active PDU Session(s) can be transferred to the 5GC in certain circumstances when either the current number of UE registration or the current number of PDU sessions would exceed the maximum number when the UE moves from EPC to 5GC.'. Besides, Invocation-related Priority Mechanism is not corner case but a fundamental mechanism of MPS/MCS
George (Ericsson) comment. I will not discuss the session as I said it is mute. I already provided answer on the Registration that U did not address. Furthermore, we have to resolve this within the context of support for SC for slices admission. So we have to wait.
Haiyang (Huawei) responds to George (Ericsson): I think for number of UEs we could wait. But for sessions the ongoing discussion is not related to the case when EPS counting is not required currently. Besides, a lie repeated a thousand times is still a lie. Your comment is opposite to the current spec.
George (Ericsson) comment. Obviously U don't read
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8.4 S2-2108922 CR Approval 23.501 CR3345R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarifications of NSAC and NSAC for roaming cases including Emergency and Priority Services Peraton Labs, CISA ECD, Ericsson, Verizon Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107943 from S2#147E. Postponed Hoyeon (Samsung) provides a comment, and proposes to discuss this CR together with session continuity.
Genadi (Lenovo) provides comments and r01 to remove changes overlapping with S2-2108605.
George (Ericsson) comments
Haiyang (Huawei) seeks for clarification.
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Genadi (Lenovo) can live with r01. Provides further comments that further work is needed in the next meeting.
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Postponed
8.4 - - - Access type - - Docs:=8 -
8.4 S2-2108516 CR Approval 23.501 CR3261R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): NSAC clarification Samsung, Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107226 from S2#147E. Approved Agreed
8.4 S2-2108517 CR Approval 23.502 CR3252 (Rel-17, 'F'): NSAC clarification Samsung Rel-17 r03 agreed. Revised to S2-2109146. George Foti (Ericsson) provides comments. Please provide an update replacing 'and access type(s) applicable to NSAC' with 'applicable access type'
Hoyeon (Samsung) provides r01.
Fenqin (Huawei) ask a question
Yunjing (CATT) has similar question as Fenqin.
Hoyeon (Samsung) replies.
Fenqin (Huawei) responds.
Hoyeon (Samsung) replies to Fenqin (Huawei).
Genadi (Lenovo) supports the proposal, but probably alignment with S2-2108921 may be needed.
Fenqin (Huawei) comments
Genadi (Lenovo) comments to Fenqin (Huawei).
Yunjing (CATT) comments
Jinguo(ZTE) response
George (Ericsson) comments. Please explain what requirements U are trying to fulfil with this rather big change. We are not OK with this change. There seens to be adhoc changes combined with the MA-PDU CR 8818.
Hoyeon (Samsung) provides comments
Fenqin (Huawei) provides comments
Hoyeon (Samsung) provides r02.
George (Ericsson) is not OK with r02, and provides comments
Hoyeon (Samsung) clarifies that this CR is nothing related to session counting, and asks some questions to George (Ericsson)
Fenqin (Huawei) responds and provides r03
George (Ericsson) responds. The discussion about MA-PDU is addressed elsewhere. Introducing access types as a plural is not OK in this CR as there is no such case for regular PDU sessions. If MA-PDU decides on multiple access types, then we may introduce some categorization, rather than a plural term. This forces U to include the response the access type that is impacted with what is proposed. So move the discussion into MA-PDU thread. We don't need this CR.
George (Ericsson) we are OK with r03
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Hoyeon (Samsung) we can accept r03 for the progress.
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Revised
8.4 S2-2109146 CR Approval 23.502 CR3252R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): NSAC clarification Samsung Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108517r03. Approved Agreed
8.4 S2-2108606 CR Approval 23.502 CR3260 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on Access Type for NSAC ZTE,Ericsson Rel-17 r06 agreed. Revised to S2-2109147, merging S2-2108830 Ashok (Samsung) have few concerns with the CR and object to it.
Yunjing (CATT) provides comments.
Jinguo (ZTE) response and provides r01
Ashok (Samsung) comments and not OK with r01
Yunjing (CATT) asks a question to Ashok.
Jinguo (ZTE) responses to Ashok.
Ashok (Samsung) responds to Jinguo and Yunjing
Fenqin (Huawei) comments
George (Ericsson) comments. It is needed but we have to look at the different types of sessions.
Jinguo(ZTE) response and provides r02
Fenqin (Huawei) comment and provides r03
Srisakul (NTT DOCOMO) provides comments.
George (Ericsson) provide comments.
Genadi (Lenovo) provides comments.
Srisakul (NTT DOCOMO) provide comments.
Srisakul (NTT DOCOMO) agrees with Genadi's comments. We would need more parameter rather than just 'skip indicator' as proposed.
George (Ericsson) I would be OK with this. But this does not handle the case if one AT is congested for MA-PDU case. Just to remind folks that Fenqin remove which is clearly incorrect, when he provided his update. So the CR needs clearly more work, but at least we seem to be converging
Ashok (Samsung) need clarification
Jinguo(ZTE) suggest to add new value for update flag.
Genadi (Lenovo) agrees with Jinguo's proposal to introduce a new 'update' value of the update flag.
Jinguo(ZTE) provides r04 to introduce a new 'update' value of the update flag.
Ashok (Samsung) need one clarification from Jinguo(ZTE) : Why NSACF has to consider AT while counting the PDU?
Hyunsook (LGE) asks the clarifications.
Jinguo(ZTE) responses.
Jinguo(ZTE) asks which sentence are you refereing to?
Ashok (Samsung) responds to Jinguo(ZTE)
alessio(Nokia) believes this Cr now is not adding anything to normal behaviour as it says the SMF updates the NSACF by decreasing AT count of the leg that is released and increase the one of the leg that is added. so what is new? iff I understood correctly then I ask the CR to be noted.
Genadi (Lenovo) provides r05 to describe the meaning of the 'update flag' in bulleted list for easier reading.
Jinguo(ZTE) reply that alessio(Nokia) understanding is incorrect.
Alessio(Nokia) can live with r05 as it is clear what it means now ??. suggest it is a category C
Jinguo(ZTE) is fine with r05
Ashok ( Samsung) comments
Jinguo(ZTE) replies to Ashok ( Samsung)
George (Ericsson) provide comment. Some cases are still not supported in the CR r05. Additional comments below on what is missing
George (Ericsson) comment. I don't see access type at all in this rev. 05 Please point me to where it is.
Jinguo(ZTE) reply.
George (Ericsson) comments. U said a minute ago everything is supported. I don't see access types in the service definition either. We need to have one CR handling all issues related to a session including MA-PDU.
Genadi (Lenovo) responds to George (Ericsson). The access type related enhancements are in 8818 and 8830.
George (Ericsson) Can we handle everything here under that thread. It is not efficient this distributed discussion. Why cant we have one CR for the whole topic
Genadi (Lenovo) comments on the counting in NSACF.
George (Ericsson) comment. I am flexible. I just want one CR discussing all PDU aspects, including MA-PDU. We need to make sure that we dot overlook something by prematurely agreeing to bits and pieces
George (Ericsson) comments. The anchor SMF increases the count only at session initiation. AS such the described problem does not exist if U read the text.
Genadi (Lenovo) responds to George (Ericsson). I quickly checked 8606r05 and 8830 - there seems to be no contradictions. However, if merging is desirable, I can try to provide a merge version (but I can only provide in 1 hour from now).
George (Ericsson) provide a consolidate one using Jinguo 8606 rev 05. Yes merging is desirable and essential to see the whole picture ??
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Genadi (Lenovo) provides r06 including the changes from S2-2108830.
Srisakul (NTT DOCOMO) ok with r06 and comments.
George (Ericsson) comments. I think this is Ok. If we need to do more clarification we can do it that later. I would support this revision.
Genadi (Lenovo) responds to Srisakul (NTT DOCOMO).
George (Ericsson) comment. The response must include the result per access type in support of MA-PDU. I believe this is a stage 2 discussion. We can add it later or add an EN, but it needs to be added.
Srisakul (NTT DOCOMO) ok with r06. Agrees to George that it would be better to clarify the issue in stage 2 spec, and we can add these details to resolve the issue in the next SA2 meeting.
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Revised
8.4 S2-2109147 CR Approval 23.502 CR3260R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on Access Type for NSAC ZTE,Ericsson, Lenovo, Motorola Mobility Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108606r06, merging S2-2108830. Approved Agreed
8.4 S2-2108757 CR Approval 23.502 CR3284 (Rel-17, 'F'): NSAC result applied access type CATT Rel-17 Noted George Foti (Ericsson) proposes to note the CR. The response retuned from NSACF applies only to that request, and can't be used for other purpose. It is possible that quota has been increased or PDU sessions has been released freeing quotas, etc..
Ashok (Samsung) comments
Yunjing (CATT) replies.
George (Ericsson) comments. This seems to be an optimization. I assume it can be done without any normative next added. We would therefore propose to not the CR.
Alessio(Nokia) supports ericsson: we should not start proliferating the NSAC policies across NFs in the CN. Let's note this.
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Noted
8.4 S2-2108818 CR Approval 23.501 CR3269R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on Access Type for NSAC ZTE, Lenovo, Motorola Mobility Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107949 from S2#147E. Approved George Foti (Ericsson) proposes to note the CR. See comments on 8830
Jinguo(ZTE) is fine with this CR.
Ashok (Samsung) comments
Jinguo(ZTE) response
Genadi (Lenovo) responds to Ashok (Samsung).
Genadi (Lenovo) responds to George Foti (Ericsson).
George (Ericsson) comments
Hyunsook (LGE) provides a comment.
Genadi (Lenovo) comments to Hyunsook (LGE) and George (Ericsson).
Ashok (Samsung) does not agree with the CR
Genadi (Lenovo) replies to Ashok (Samsung) and provides alternative text.
Ashok (Samsung) responds to Genadi (Lenovo)
Genadi (Lenovo) replies to Ashok (Samsung) and provides a view that the MA-PDU Session is counted once in the NSACF.
Fenqin (Huawei) comments.
Jinguo(ZTE) response.
Genadi (Lenovo) responds to question from Fenqin (Huawei).
George (Ericsson) comments. Can we have one CR based on Jinguo's CR 8606. This distributed discussion does not help.
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George (Ericsson) to be noted. Addressed in 8606
Genadi (Lenovo) does not agree with George (Ericsson). 8818 is NOT addressed in 8606. The CR is 8606 is against 23.502, whereas the CR in 8818 is against 23.501.
George (Ericsson) respond. Ok U are right. I missed that one. Ericsson is OK with this one
Tao(VC) Let's check whether to approve r00 or not
George (Ericsson) Yes for Ericsson
Genadi (Lenovo) responds to Tao: yes, as this CR (to 23.501) is complimentary to the agreeable one in 8606 (to 23.502).
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Agreed
8.4 S2-2108830 CR Approval 23.502 CR3292 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on Access Type for NSAC Lenovo, Motorola Mobility, ZTE Rel-17 Merged into S2-2109147 George Foti (Ericsson) proposes not to handle MA-PDU in Relese 17. Please see additional comments
Jinguo(ZTE) support this paper
Genadi (Lenovo) responds to George (Ericsson).
George (Ericsson) comments. I don't believe the logic has to be in the NSACF. The NSAF maintains counts for admissions; and that's it. This can be its only role. It cannot be aware of session type. We have all sorts of session types; We have MBMS as well for example. So the approach in my view is incorrect beside the missing cases. We have to choose a future proof approach. The SMFs are aware of the logic. This will require updating the interface to handle these cases so NSACF stay clean.
Ashok (Samsung) does not agree with the CR. It propose NSACF to mention the AT in its output to SMF while accepting or rejecting the PDU session. In our view the admission and rejection is based on PDU threshold which is irrespective of AT.
Genadi (Lenovo) replies to Ashok (Samsung).
Ashok (Samsung) responds to Genadi (Lenovo)
Genadi (Lenovo) replies to Ashok (Samsung) and provides a view that the MA-PDU Session is counted once in the NSACF.
Genadi (Lenovo) comments to George (Ericsson).
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George (Ericsson) to be noted. Addressed in 8606
Genadi (Lenovo) agrees to be noted as merged into 8606r06.
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Merged
8.4 - - - Roaming - - Docs:=4 -
8.4 S2-2108603 CR Approval 23.502 CR3259 (Rel-17, 'F'): Roaming support for NSAC ZTE,China Unicom Rel-17 Noted George Foti (Ericsson) provides r01. Minor editorial changes
Jinguo(ZTE) is fine with r01.
Alessio(nokia) cannot agree to this CR
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Jinguo(ZTE) suggest to go with r01
Fenqin(Huawei) propose to note this CR.
Alessio(Nokia) still objects and the only sensible way forward is to come back in Q1 next year to remove roaming support from the feature at this stage. we can work on it in rel-18
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Noted
8.4 S2-2108563 CR Approval 23.501 CR3391 (Rel-17, 'F'): Roaming support for NSAC with HPLMN control China Telecom, Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Noted George Foti (Ericsson) proposes to note the CR. For Release 17 what we have is sufficient. Any additional capabilities have to be checked with GSMA.
Fenqin (Huawei) ask a question for clarification
George (Ericsson) responds. Nothing is missing. In HR cases, the SMF in the HPLMN interacts with the NSACF and apply NSAC. Now there will be an NSACF dedicated for outbound-roamers as the service area has no meaning here. SO what is missing that stops U from doing based on what I stated
Ouerdia (Orange) agrees with Fenqin (Huawei)
George (Ericsson) provides comments.
Kaisu (Nokia) adds a comment
George (Ericsson) comments. The claim was that we have to get requirement from GSMA, and this what we can agree to in Release 17. We cannot invent our own requirements on a topic that is clearly within the realm of GSMA and its support for roaming agreements, which can be static, dynamic or no support at all depending on what they agree on. Let lay the known facts and not more than that.
Fenqin(Huawei) comments and provides r01
George (Ericsson) provides comment. Oh yes there is a need for GSMA requirements. This whole work item was triggered by GSMA. U can make Ur case there.
Ouerdia (Orange) comments. From an operator point of view, it is not easy to define in advance the quota of roamers to allot for each PLMN partner in the SLA, it will be a hard exercise.
So, it is better to have a single quota and perform admission control at HPLMN level, in real time and for all PLMNs (home and partners).
No need to wait for a requirements from GSMA.
George (Ericsson) objects to R01, and supporting any dynamic control while roaming without explicit requirements from GSMA. We can agree to send an LS to GSMA. I will also bring the issue up at the next meeting. If there are GSMA requirements to that effect we will support that.
Heng(China Telecom) support r01
George (Ericsson) comments. If U want HPLMN control roaming don't invoke an NSACF in the VPLMN. Just do everything in HPLMN. But that requires roaming agreement to allow that. This is the logical way to do this. Invoking an NSACF in VPLMN in this HPLMN control accomplishes nothing and create some unclear communication between NSACFs with no idea what is it about or for what purpose, nor any documentation on what it does; on the fly. This is why we are not supporting this adhoc proposals.
Alessio(Nokia) is supportive of introducing this. we also have this in our CRs. we can discuss which one should be used as basis.
Yan (China Mobile) tend to support the idea of this paper supporting HPLMN control for roaming UE.
Heng(China Telecom) reply to Geroge
George (Ericsson) responds. Please specify the roaming requirements, when it comes to slices subject to NSAC, that U want to support. Static, dynamic, VPLN, HPLMN and these buzz words provide no requirement; they are wishes. What are the roles in each network, and how does the roaming agreement fits in here. So provide the above information first, then we can see how to fulfill them.
Fenqin(Huawei) comments and suggest to go r01
George (Ericsson) Please provide the requirements, and not a solution. We object to all revisions
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8.4 S2-2108576 CR Approval 23.502 CR3257 (Rel-17, 'F'): Roaming support for NSAC with HPLMN control China Telecom, Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Noted George Foti (Ericsson) proposes to note the CR. Please see comments in 8563
Alessio(Nokia) is supportive of introducing this. we also have this in our CRs. we can discuss which one should be used as basis.
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George (Ericsson) objects to the CR
Orange (Ouerdia) supports the CR
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Noted
8.4 S2-2108602 CR Approval 23.501 CR3399 (Rel-17, 'F'): Roaming for NSAC ZTE,China Unicom Rel-17 Postponed George Foti (Ericsson) provides comments
Jinguo (ZTE) provides r01
George (Ericsson) comments. Please see inline I don't understand what U are trying to achieve.
Ouerdia (Orange) proposes to note the CR. HPLMN is not able to count the registered UEs and/or perform admission control of its roamers, if required, with this proposal
Heng (China Telecom) ask a technical issue
Jinguo (ZTE) response and provides r02
Jinguo (ZTE) provides r03 as backup if S2-2108563((inter NSACF communication)) cannot be agreed
Alessio(nokia) cannot agree to this CR
Fenqin(Huawei) comments
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Jinguo (ZTE) provides r04, but propose to go with 8563r01 first if it is agreeable.
George (Ericsson) we are Ok with r04
Fenqin(Huawei) object r04
Jinguo(ZTE) replies to Fenqin and asks for CC#2
Jinguo(ZTE) is ok to postpone at this meeting
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Postponed
8.4 - - - Session continuity - - Docs:=10 -
8.4 S2-2108331 CR Approval 23.501 CR3239R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Support for Session Continuity for EPC 5GC IWK, and inter-AMF Mobility Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of (Noted) S2-2107112 from S2#147E. Noted Hoyeon (Samsung) provides a comment.
George (Ericsson) respond.
Fenqin (Huawei) comments
George (Ericsson) provides response.
Hoyeon (Samsung) sees some lack of logic about the proposal.
George (Ericsson) please sees a response in line. Also Ur solution puts a new system behavior where a slice is rejected but have a PDU session established. That is not allowed today. So U are allowing the UE to continue the session, claiming this supports SC, without being registered. That breaks Release 15, 16, and 17. U also create a regulation problem with emergency and MPS users, without a solution.
Fenqin (Huawei) provides response and r01
George (Ericsson) Ericsson object to r01. Explain what will the NSACF communication solve the problem, and how. Please put down what U want in details. Explaining my statement: if the UE is roaming in a different service area and U don't count it as being there but rather being counted in some other service area potentially than U are miscounting. The SMF++PGW-C at home is counting the UE as being in EPC, while the UE is in 5G.
Fenqin (Huawei) responds.
George (Ericsson) comment. So U now want to extend this to every congested NSACF. That's new. Also help me understand how will reporting this to a central node eliminate congestion in the NSACF having a congestion. Will the central now return a response that is to be relayed by the NSACF to the UE. If so, then the NSACF has to now hold a state that this UE state is in a different node, potentially only for one slice, while other requested slices are OK. There are so many details that U are just ignoring, which shows the holes in this solution.
Hoyeon (Samsung) thinks George (Ericsson) misunderstood Samsung proposal. There is no proposal like 'a new system behavior where a slice is rejected but have a PDU session established.'
Jinguo(ZTE) provides r02
George (Ericsson) asks a question. How is the rejection of new PDU sessions over that slice help the over quota situation. Also what if that same UE registers other slices unrelated to the IWK slice and establish new PDU sessions. Please answer these 2 questions separately. Of course the question is directed of proponents of this approach in case of over congestion. Additional comments below
Jinguo (ZTE) responses
George (Ericsson) comments. So if the UE maintains this lone allowed PDU session indefinitely than the over quota situation is not helped. If the same UE uses other slices the over quota is not helped. DO U agree with the above statements ?
Iskren (NEC) - r02 is not acceptable
Jinguo(ZTE) response
Jinguo(ZTE) response to Iskren (NEC)
George (Ericsson) comments. I am a bit perplexed that U guys are arguing for a solution that does not resolve the quota issue over other solutions that also does not resolve it but U are complaining about it !!. More comments in line and trying to find a possible path forward.
Iskren (NEC) provides r03 which does not allow the UE registrations or PDU Sessions to increase to infinity in EPC interworking.
George (Ericsson) comments. Jinguo, this has nothing to do with attractiveness., U acknowledged it does not solve the over quota. It's the argument over it that is rather strange. I proposed few options as a way forward. I think these are pragmatic and provides control. It is also solution neutral. We can have some show of hand as well if need be. This is becoming a show stopper at this time. The other option is we don't support EPC counting, and we remove it completely. I see no other way.
George (Ericsson) comments. I would be OK with that, and once we have a consensus we can update the 502 one.
Iskren (NEC) answers Jinguo (ZTE)
George (Ericsson) responds. No it is guaranteed for those operators who don't configure anything in their NSACF expect reserve a pool for SC users. U have not proposed any solution either expect through the magic of NSACF2NSACF communication. So to support SC, VPLMN1 updates some node (there could be many) in an HPLMN where the is counted there and that UE is not counted in the VPLMN, even though the UE using the VPLMN resources, and overloading the corresponding slice quota in the VPLMN without counting or knowing it; that's under reporting.
Alessio(Nokia) proposes to note this CR
Hoyeon (Samsung) asks a question for new proposal.
George (Ericsson) responds. Some stated that the over quota is infinite. We tried to introduce a maximum over quota limit that the operator configures in the NSAC based on policy if he so chooses. Once that configured over quota is reached SC is not guaranteed. This provides the operator control and as well avoid the infinite issue that U and Fenqin raised. There is no silver bullet here. No one has presented one and there will be none in a distributed environment unless U complicate things to an extreme for a rare event. IF folks want to go to a centralized node then we scrap service areas.
Fenqin (Huawei) proposed to note this paper
George (Ericsson) provides r04. This is a last ditch effort before NSACF gets formally canned from Release 17.
Jinguo(ZTE) provides r05. However propose to go with r04 first if it is agreeable
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George (Ericsson) comments. The note must become normative and with the following text added at the end 'except by implementation specific means'
Fenqin(Huawei) propose to note this paper as view are not converged.
Jinguo(ZTE) asks for CC#2.
Hoyeon (Samsung) we can only accept r01 or r05. Objects to other revisions.
George (Ericsson) Ericsson objects to all revision beyond the original
Iskren (NEC) supports r02 but can also accept r04.
Iskren (NEC) - Sorry, correction:). We can accept r00, r03, r04 only.
Alessio(Nokia) Objects to all revisions and the original one
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Noted
8.4 S2-2108332 CR Approval 23.502 CR3126R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Support for Session Continuity for EPC 5GC IWK, and inter-AMF Mobility Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of (Noted) S2-2107108 from S2#147E. Noted Hoyeon (Samsung) provides a comment. Please see our comment on S2-2108331.
Fenqin (Huawei) same comment as our comment on S2-2108331.
Alessio(Nokia) proposes to note this CR
George Foti (Ericsson) provides r01 adding the operator policy to manage over quota.
Iskren (NEC) provides r02.
Fenqin (Huawei) same comment as 8331.
alessio(Nokia) keeps their concerns.
George (Ericsson) provides r04. The only thing we will be able to agree upon, if any, is to leave it to implementation to ensure SC while not going over the quota. More comments
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Fenqin (Huawei) propose to note this paper due to same reason as 8331.
Hoyeon (Samsung) proposes to note this CR.
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Noted
8.4 S2-2108520 CR Approval 23.501 CR3384 (Rel-17, 'F'): NSAC mechanism for session continuity Samsung Rel-17 Noted George Foti (Ericsson) provides comments
Hoyeon (Samsung) replies to George Foti (Ericsson).
George (Ericsson) provides comments in line. U have to clarify what objectives U are trying to achieve and why. What U are proposing is new behavior and solves nothing. Ur proposal does not solve the fact that the maximum number of registered UEs has been reached. Not to mention that the quotas are unrelated as U heard it from others as well.
Hoyeon (Samsung) thinks George (Ericsson) misunderstood Samsung proposal. There is no proposal like 'a new system behavior where a slice is rejected but have a PDU session established.'
George (Ericsson) please respond to the question on the purpose of this limitation. How will it get rid of the over quota situation.
Alessio(Nokia) proposes to note this CR
Dan(China Mobile) tend to support this idea of this paper
Hoyeon (Samsung) provides r01 to accommodate Dan(China Mobile)'s comment.
George (Ericsson) responds. There is nothing temporary as Jinguo confirmed, the UE can keep the session indefinitely, the UE can request new slices and new sessions. So this provides no solution to the basic problem of uncontrolled over quota as U call it.
Iskren (NEC) - this CR to be Noted or considered as merged to S2-210331 by Ericsson.
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Fenqin (Huawei) - propose to note this CR as it also not solve the over quota issue.
Hoyeon (Samsung) proposes to note this CR.
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Noted
8.4 S2-2108521 CR Approval 23.502 CR3253 (Rel-17, 'F'): NSAC mechanism for session continuity Samsung Rel-17 Noted George Foti (Ericsson) Please see comments on S2-2108520. The CR is Not OK
Alessio(Nokia) proposes to note this CR
Iskren (NEC) - this CR to be Noted or considered as merged to S2-210332 by Ericsson.
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Hoyeon (Samsung) proposes to note this CR.
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Noted
8.4 S2-2108817 CR Approval 23.501 CR3434 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification of NSAC Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Noted George Foti (Ericsson) objects to the CR and to the gross misclassification of it as being a Cat F CR. The CR creates more issues, missed cases, and even what it provides is non-scalable. Not to mention the lack of any basis for these major functional change. Additional comments below.
Jinguo(ZTE) comments that this CR is not aligned with GSMA requirement.
Fenqin (Huawei) comments.
George (Ericsson) comments. Ur view of proxying is completely misaligned with what is in the CR as a starter. The CR specification of proxying is about routing and nothing more.
Iskren (NEC) expresses concerns with this CR.
Alessio(Nokia) replies
Hoyeon (Samsung) proposes to note this CR
Iskren (NEC) proposes to note this CR
Alessio(nokia) replies to Hoyeon(SS)
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Hoyeon (Samsung) proposes to note the CR. At least, SC related proposal should be noted.
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Noted
8.4 S2-2108831 CR Approval 23.502 CR3293 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification of NSAC Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Noted George Foti (Ericsson) objects to the CR. Please see comments on 8817.
Iskren (NEC) expresses concerns with this CR.
Alessio(Nokia) replies
George (Ericsson) provides a response. The NSACF proxying is an even bigger issue. We can resort to a single node and simplify everything eliminating all problems; but to create NSACF for the sole purpose of proxying is rather strange as an architecture choice given that there is only a central node responsible for Counting. Furthermore with roaming, EPC IWK, and proxying as a package we will end up counting the UE in the PLMN where he initiated the session, and not the current one he is accessing.
Alessio(Nokia) replies that like NSSF and NRF, the NSACF can play the role of prosy between VPLMN and HPLMN. So we do not understand the issue.
George (Ericsson) comments. NSSF and NRF are not proxies. They are used for policies regarding slicing, and discovery. With that said, is the sole purpose of NSACF proxy routing towards the central node, or does it have another role. Also for intra-PLMN role what role beside routing is the NSACF playing. That is 95% of the traffic. Do NSACF perform anything when it comes to admission. I came to the conclusion that it is pure routing. All the admission, state creation, etc.. are managed up in the single node.
Hoyeon (Samsung) expresses concerns with this CR
Iskren (NEC) proposes to Note this CR.
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Hoyeon (Samsung) proposes to note the CR. At least, SC related proposal should be noted.
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Noted
8.4 S2-2108832 CR Approval 23.501 CR3347R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): NSAC for maximum number of PDU Sessions for EPC IWK Lenovo, Motorola Mobility, NTT DOCOMO, NEC Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107735 from S2#147E. Noted George Foti (Ericsson) provides comments
Hoyeon (Samsung) provides comments.
Genadi (Lenovo) provides r01 and replies to comments.
Fenqin (Huawei) ask question
Alessio(nokia) comments and requests to note this CR as it is going down an unworkable path for EPC counting
Hoyeon (Samsung) provides a comment.
Genadi (Lenovo) replies to Alessio (Nokia) that the CR works if the final conclusion is to go with the proposal in 8331.
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Hoyeon (Samsung) proposes to note this CR.
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Noted
8.4 S2-2108888 CR Approval 23.501 CR3058R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): TS23.501 Correction to the NSAC to maintain service continuity NEC Rel-17 Revision of (Noted) S2-2107456 from S2#147E. Noted George Foti (Ericsson) provides comments. The CR does not distinguish the case when EPS counting is performed vs the case where EPS counting is not performed. It leaves everything to operator policy which is nit aligned with existing text.
Jinguo(ZTE) suggest to merge this CR into 8331 to have single thread discussion
Alessio(Nokia) asks to note this CR
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Hoyeon (Samsung) proposes to note this CR.
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Noted
8.4 S2-2108889 CR Approval 23.502 CR2950R4 (Rel-17, 'F'): TS23.502 Correction to the NSAC to maintain service continuity NEC Rel-17 Revision of (Noted) S2-2107478 from S2#147E. Noted George Foti (Ericsson) provides comments
Jinguo(ZTE) suggest to merge this CR into 8332 to have single thread discussion
Alessio(nokia) asks to note this CR
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Hoyeon (Samsung) proposes to note this CR.
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Noted
8.4 S2-2108928 CR Approval 23.501 CR3348R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): SMF+PGW-C behaviour during UE mobility between 5GC and EPC Lenovo, Motorola Mobility Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107736 from S2#147E. Noted George Foti (Ericsson) provides comments
Genadi (Lenovo) provides r01 based on comment from George Foti (Ericsson).
Alessio(Nokia) requests to note this CR
Jinguo(ZTE) supports this CR
Hoyeon (Samsung) is OK with the proposal, asks a question for clarification.
Alessio(Nokia) the conflict is because it affects same text. in clause.
Genadi (Lenovo) replies to Hoyeon (Samsung).
Genadi (Lenovo) replies to Alessio (Nokia) and provides r02.
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George (Ericsson) OK rev 02
Hoyeon (Samsung) is OK with r02.
Fenqin (Huawei) comments.
Genadi (Lenovo) comments Fenqin (Huawei).
Fenqin (Huawei) comments and suggest bring this to CC#2
Genadi (Lenovo) suggests to bring this CR to CC#2.
Alessio(Nokia) cannot agree to this CR which highlights the issues with the current model. we need to discuss this thing until next meeting.
Alessio(Nokia) provides further info on why there is no point to discuss in CC#2
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Noted
8.4 - - - KI#3 U-Slice-MBR - - Docs:=3 -
8.4 S2-2108336 CR Approval 23.503 CR0667 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction to UE-Slice-MBR support Ericsson Rel-17 Noted Alessio(Nokia) objects to this CR
Paul (Ericsson) replies to Alessio (Nokia).
Alessio(Nokia) repeats Nokia concerns with this and cannot agree this is needed.
Paul (Ericsson) replies to Alessio (Nokia). Please provide technical reasons for Nokia's objection.
Alessio (Nokia) says he has already provided the reason.
Paul (Ericsson) provides r01.
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alessio(Nokia) objects to r01
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Noted
8.4 S2-2108380 CR Approval 23.501 CR3368 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction to UE-Slice-MBR support Ericsson Rel-17 Noted Dongeun (Samsung) asks a question
Heng(China Telecom) has the same concern as Dongeun
Paul (Ericsson) replies to Dongeun (Samsung) and Heng(China Telecom).
Heng(China Telecom) has a comment under the reply
Jinguo(ZTE) think the second change is not needed
Haiyang (Huawei) shares similar view with Heng (China Telecom).
Paul (Ericsson) replies to Jinguo (ZTE).
alessio (Nokia) objects to this CR
Paul (Ericsson) replies to Alessio (Nokia). This CR is needed as otherwise CN has no visibility that a policy intended required) to be enforced is not followed. This breaks this functionality.
Alessio(Nokia) comments that we have a different understanding of how to choose between PCF based and RAN based and we do not see the need of this feature proposed after release is frozen.
Paul (Ericsson) replies to Alessio (Nokia). The feature is broken if CN is left unaware of whether the policy is actually enforced. No technical reasons to objection are provided.
Alessio (Nokia) says he has already provided the reason.
Jinguo(ZTE) comments
Paul (Ericsson) provides r01.
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Jinguo(ZTE) is ok with first change in r01 but not ok with second change.
alessio(Nokia) objects to r01
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Paul (Ericsson) asks question for clarification. Can Nokia clarify what is expected to happen/happens when enforcement of UE-Slice-MBR in RAN is not feasible?
Noted
8.4 S2-2108527 CR Approval 23.502 CR3151R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): UE-Slice-MBR enforcement during SSC mode 3 operation Samsung Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107268 from S2#147E. Noted Belen (Ericsson) objects to this CR.
Dongeun (Samsung) replies.
Jinguo(ZTE) objects to this CR
Dongeun(Samsung) responds to ZTE.
Jinguo(ZTE) responds.
Dongeun (Samsung) responds to ZTE
Jinguo(ZTE) reply
alessio(Nokia) objects to this CR as already discussed at last meeting
Belen (Ericsson) does not think this CR is needed.
Dongeun (Samsung) replies to Belen (Ericsson)
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Belen (Ericsson) replies to Samsung
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Noted
8.4 - - - KI#4 slice info exposure - - Docs:=9 -
8.4 S2-2108313 CR Approval 23.502 CR3220 (Rel-17, 'D'): Correction for the figure of Number of UEs and PDU Sessions per network slice status retrieval by AF procedure KDDI Rel-17 Noted George Foti (Ericsson)proposes to note the CR. This section will have to be completely removed.
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Koji Saito(KDDI) provides comment.
Noted
8.4 S2-2108333 CR Approval 23.502 CR3128R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Using Immediate reply in conjunction with NSACF related events Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of (Noted) S2-2107114 from S2#147E. CC#2: r05 with restoration of changes in step 7 agreed. Revised to S2-2109341, merging S2-2108721, S2-2108423 and S2-2108642 George Foti (Ericsson) provides r01 merging changes from 8642 into r01. See comments on 8642.
George (Ericsson) provides r02. I included 8721 in here. In response to Genadi about including the S-NSSAI in event filer. I saw no way to do it as this is only for this event, and nothing else.
Jinhua (Xiaomi) provides comments.
Srisakul (NTT DOCOMO) provides r03 and comments.
George (Ericsson) is OK with r03
Kaisu (Nokia) provides r04, which also includes content from 8423rev01.
George (Ericsson) comment, We object to r04. Why are U sneaking in the geographical area now ?. We can add a note only for that part . The period chosen is selected by the NEF based on its internal logic, or implementation
Please see additional comments
George (Ericsson) provides r05. We created a Note for setting up period. Removed geographical area being new function not belonging in a Cat F CR, immature, and not completely thought out and incomplete. Cleaned up step 8.
Jinguo(ZTE) supports the georgraphic area
George (Ericsson) Is this additional function in the exception report?
Jinhua(Xiaomi) provides comments, r05 is fine, and replies to Srisakul about the trusted AF communicate directly
Dan(China Mobile) provides r06 and object to r05
George (Ericsson) This is a new feature and incorrectly specified. U can bring it in a call. We object to r06 that introduces new features
Srisakul (NTT DOCOMO) replies to Jinhua's comment. OK for both r05 and r06.
Jinhua(Xiaomi) replies to Srisakul, the NOTE2 in table 5.2.21.1-1 is sufficient for now. both r05 and r06 is OK for me.
Iskren (NEC) - none of the revisions of this CR are acceptable. NEC objects to it as it has gone much beyond its purpose.
George (Ericsson) comment. U misunderstood the additions that are necessary to handle service identifier for untrusted AF, and to support single NSACF vs multiple NSACFs deployments. These will have to be in regardless. They will never be out, in any version that U conceive will make U happy unless U eliminate the requirements. They are essential requirements not optional today.
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Jinguo(ZTE) agree with George (Ericsson) that we should go with r05 or r06 and ask for CC#2.
George (Ericsson) for us r06 is Not OK. The geographical support is a new feature and is only 10% specified; yes that's it, not well though at all, but I will not discuss any technical issues now or on the call. That's for another day. We need to have a stable revision first, and that's what matters now.
George (Ericsson) comments. Jinguo U should bring this up on CC#2.
George (Ericsson) comments. I don't understand what merging are U talking about. What is missing here in this procedure. It's a simple question. We did not touch the NSACF procedure. U cannot subscribe for both Registered UEs and PDU sessions in a single request if that is what U imply by merge.
Fenqin (Huawei) we are fine with r05 or r06. Thanks!
Kaisu (Nokia) we support r06.
Dan (China Mobile) we support r06.
Iskren (NEC) objects to all versions of this CR unless the bellow highlighted essential text from the current spec is restored.
7. The NSACF sends the Nnsacf_SliceEvent Exposure_Notify (Event ID, Event Filter, Event Reporting information) message to the NEF. If the subscription is for event based notification (e.g. based on the monitored event reaching a threshold value), the Event Reporting information parameter contains confirmation for the event fulfilment. If the subscription is for periodic notification or for immediate reporting, the Event Reporting information parameter provides information for the current number of UEs registered with a network slice (e.g. represented in percentage of the maximum number of the UEs registered with the network slice), information for the current number of PDU Sessions on a network slice (e.g. represented in percentage of the maximum number of the UEs established on the network slice) or both.
Genadi (Lenovo) supports r05 or r06 in order to make progress. Clean-ups are needed in CC#2 or in the next meeting.
Iskren (NEC) answers Genadi (Lenovo)
George (Ericsson) Ericsson accepts only r05.
Srisakul (NTT DOCOMO) is fine for both r05 and r06. Ok to restore texts in step#7 as proposed by Iskren.
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8.4 S2-2109341 CR Approval 23.502 CR3128R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Using Immediate reply in conjunction with NSACF related events Ericsson, NTT DOCOMO Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108333r05 + changes, merging S2-2108721, S2-2108423 and S2-2108642. Approved Agreed
8.4 S2-2108419 CR Approval 23.501 CR3259R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): AF request for specific area slice status report when multiple NSACFs existing in network China Mobile Rel-17 Revision of (Noted) S2-2107222 from S2#147E. Noted George Foti (Ericsson) proposes to note the CR. The request is for slices or service identifiers but not for service areas.
Genadi (Lenovo) provides comments.
Dan(China Mobile) provides reply.
Iskren (NEC) provides comments.
Ashok (Samsung) shares same view as Iskren (NEC)
Srisakul (NTT DOCOMO) comments and agrees to Iskren (NEC).
George (Ericsson) provides comments. This is an enhancement that has to be done separately. It is not within the scope of the exception report.
Dan (China Mobile) provides r01
George (Ericsson) objects to the CR
Kaisu (Nokia) supports rev01
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TAO(VC) check whether r01 agreeable
Iskren (NEC) supports r01
George (Ericsson) comments Ericsson objects to all revisions.
George (Ericsson) Ericsson objects. This adds new feature that is not on the table under a CAT F CR, and with no support at all in 23.502.
Dan (China Mobile) comments George (Ericsson) 's objection is not based on technical reason, which is unacceptable.
Dan (China Mobile) we request for CC#2
Srisakul (NTT DOCOMO) supports r01.
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Noted
8.4 S2-2108423 CR Approval 23.502 CR3143R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): AF request for specific area slice status report when multiple NSACFs existing in network China Mobile Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107221 from S2#147E. Merged into S2-2109341 George Foti (Ericsson) proposes to note the CR. See S2-2108419
Genadi (Lenovo) proposes to discuss first the proposal in S2-2108419 to 23.501.
Iskren (NEC) provides comments.
Dan (China Mobile) provides r01
Iskren (NEC) answers Dan (China Mobile) and provides r02 with some editorials.
George (Ericsson) objects to including additional functionality under a Cat F CR and not covered in the exception report.
George (Ericsson) comments. We don't agree to CAT F CRs adding functionality not in the exception sheet.
Iskren (NEC) - In my opinion it is not a new feature as we already have the service area as an input for NSACF discovery.
George (Ericsson) SA is not geographical area. We have to stop this adhoc addition of things. This is what got this work item in trouble. There is no relation to the study item anymore.
Kaisu (Nokia) informs that she has merged 8423rev01 to document 8333rev04
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Dan (China Mobile)suggest mark this merged into S2-2108333 if SA2 WG approve S2-2108333 r06.
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Merged
8.4 S2-2108641 CR Approval 23.501 CR3410 (Rel-17, 'F'): Corrections on Nnsacf_SliceStatus and Nnef_SliceStatus services Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Approved Agreed
8.4 S2-2108642 CR Approval 23.502 CR3270 (Rel-17, 'F'): Corrections on Nnsacf_SliceStatus and Nnef_SliceStatus services Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Merged into S2-2109341 George Foti (Ericsson) proposes to note the CR and incorporate the changes in 5.2.21, 5.2.21.4.2, 5.2.21.4.4, 5.2.21.5 in 8333r01. Additional comments below.
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Haiyang (Huawei) is OK to merge this paper into 8333.
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Merged
8.4 S2-2108721 CR Approval 23.502 CR3278 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification for network slice notification procedure for untrusted AF case NTT DOCOMO Rel-17 CC#2: Merged into S2-2109341 George Foti (Ericsson) provide r01 just clarifying that Notification to trusted AF includes the service identifier. This CR fits nicely with Ericsson CR S2-2108333
Ashok (Samsung) comments
Srisakul (NTT DOCOMO) ok with r01 and provides responses to comments.
Genadi (Lenovo) supports the concept, but proposes to move the changes as normative text to clause 4.15.3.2.10. Provides r02.
Ashok (Samsung) thanks Genadi (Lenovo) for r02
George (Ericsson) comments. This is not the right place for that. I will provide an update of my CR merging this in 8333 which is the one that should be updated.
Genadi (Lenovo) provides comments to George (Ericsson).
Srisakul (NTT DOCOMO) provides comments.
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Srisakul (NTT DOCOMO) suggests to mark this tdoc as 'Merged into S2-2108333, if SA2 WG approves any revision from r03 of S2-2108333. Otherwise, let's consider r02 to be approved.'
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Merged
8.4 S2-2108785 CR Approval 23.501 CR3428 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction for External Exposure of Network Capability Xiaomi, Rel-17 Approved Agreed
8.4 - - - KI#5 PCF based monitoring - - Docs:=4 -
8.4 S2-2108737 CR Approval 23.503 CR0663R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction for PCF based monitoring of the data rate per network slice Huawei, HiSilicon, Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of (Noted) S2-2107509 from S2#147E. Noted Belen (Ericsson) proposes to merge this CR into S2-2108737
Jinhua(Xiaomi) replies to Belen,
Alessio(Nokia) asks to note the CR and all its revisions as per discussion we already had at SA2#147
Mirko (Huawei) responds to Alessio.
Belen (Ericsson) supports this CR.
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Tao(VC) further check whether it is agreeable per clarification from Huawei and Ericsson.
Alessio(Nokia) does not understand why we need this separate value given the quota is not separate. maintains the objection as there is no reason to assume that we starve Non GBR unless statisticaly almost all requests are GBR, which then means that GBR is most important category to be served.
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Noted
8.4 S2-2108787 CR Approval 23.503 CR0687 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction for PCF Based Monitoring of the Slice Data Rate Xiaomi, Rel-17 Noted alessio(Nokia) provides r01
Mirko (Huawei) comments.
Belen (Ericsson) comments.
alessio(Nokia) clarifies that the maximum data rate defined by GSMA includes GBR and NON GBR.
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Belen (Ericsson) cannot accept r01 and objects, provides a rephrasing if acceptable
Tao(VC) check whether Belen's text proposal acceptable or not
Jinhua(Xiaomi) is OK with Belen's proposal, that r01 can be approved without the addition of 'exceeding the Maximum Slice Data Rate'.
Alessio(Nokia) does not understand why we need this separate value given the quota is not separate. maintains the objection as there is no reason to assume that we starve Non GBR unless statistically almost all requests are GBR, which then means that GBR is most important category to be served.
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Noted
8.4 S2-2108788 CR Approval 23.503 CR0652R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Selection of the PCF for network slice related policy control Ericsson(?), Xiaomi Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107952 from S2#147E. Confirm Sources! r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109148. Belen (Ericsson) confirms support to this CR
Jinhua(Xiaomi) replies to Belen and provides r01,
Mirko (Huawei) provides r02.
Jinhua(Xiaomi) replies to Mirko, r02 is OK.
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8.4 S2-2109148 CR Approval 23.503 CR0652R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): Selection of the PCF for network slice related policy control Ericsson, Xiaomi Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108788r02. Approved Agreed
8.4 - - - KI#7 configured NSSAI - - Docs:=3 -
8.4 S2-2108310 CR Approval 23.501 CR3359 (Rel-17, 'F'): Alignment with RAN conclusion on providing Configured NSSAI to the RAN Convida Wireless LLC, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Orange, Verizon Rel-17 Noted Jinguo(ZTE) proposed to note this CR
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) proposed to note this CR
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) proposes to note this CR.
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Noted
8.4 S2-2108604 CR Approval 23.501 CR3400 (Rel-17, 'F'): Removal of Editor's Note on Configured NSSAI ZTE, Huawei, Samsung, Ericsson Rel-17 Approved Alessio (Nokia) comments this is still discussed offline so let's hold approval till we take one last round of discussions following the SoH
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Jinguo(ZTE) suggest to approve the original version.
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Agreed
8.4 S2-2108893 DISCUSSION Agreement On providing Configured NSSAI to the RAN Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Convida Wireless Rel-17 Noted Noted
8.5 - - - Enhanced support of Industrial IoT - TSC/URLLC enhancements (IIoT) - - Docs:=64 -
8.5 - - - LSs - - Docs:=3 -
8.5 S2-2108276 LS In Action Reply LS on more efficient PMIC/UMIC signalling exchange for time synchronization CT WG1 (C1-216069) Rel-17 Postponed Postponed
8.5 S2-2108288 LS In Information LS from CT WG4: Reply LS on UPF reporting for redundant transmission on transport layer CT WG4 (C4-215505) Rel-17 Noted Sang-Jun (Samsung) proposes to move it to 7.10 5G_URLLC or to note the LS since no action is required to SA2.
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Qianghua (Huawei) agrees with Samsung
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Noted
8.5 S2-2108292 LS In Information LS from IEEE: RE: LS on Correction Field update for Transparent Clock IEEE (Reply to 3GPP liaison correction field) Noted Chunshan(Tencent) has provided related CR S2-2108539 based on this LS .
Devaki (Nokia) proposes to note the LS.
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Noted
8.5 - - - CRs - - Docs:=61 -
8.5 S2-2108308 CR Approval 23.501 CR3357 (Rel-17, 'F'): Deletion of selected enrties in UMIC/PMIC data structures Intel, NTT DOCOMO Rel-17 r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109278. Saso (Intel) provides r01
Saso (Intel) provides r02
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8.5 S2-2109278 CR Approval 23.501 CR3357R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Deletion of selected enrties in UMIC/PMIC data structures Intel, NTT DOCOMO Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108308r02. Approved Agreed
8.5 S2-2108309 CR Approval 23.501 CR3358 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on Static Filtering Entries Intel, NTT DOCOMO, Ericsson Rel-17 r05 agreed. Revised to S2-2109279. Devaki (Nokia) provides r01.
Qianghua (Huawei) object r00, provides r02
Saso (Intel) objects r02; provides r03 on top of r01.
Qianghua (Huawei) provides r04, object r03
Saso (Intel) provides r05 on top of r04.
Zhendong (ZTE): prefer r04
Saso (Intel) replies to Zhendong that r05 is better because it lifts unnecessary restrictions for UPF implementations.
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Qianghua (Huawei) objects r00, r01, r03 given the reasons expressed before, OK with the other revisions (prefer r04)
Zhendong (ZTE): also prefer r04
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) prefers r05. r04 is not consistent.
Saso (Intel) prefers r05. Agrees with Jari that r04 is inconsistent.
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Revised
8.5 S2-2109279 CR Approval 23.501 CR3358R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on Static Filtering Entries Intel, NTT DOCOMO, Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108309r05. Approved Agreed
8.5 S2-2108315 CR Approval 23.501 CR3242R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Improved PTP instance configuration management Intel, NTT DOCOMO, Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2108126 from S2#147E. r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109280. Devaki (Nokia) supports the CR, happy to cosign. Minor correction is needed in the annex.
Saso (Intel) provides r01
Sebastian (Qualcomm) provides r02
Saso (Intel) is OK with r02.
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8.5 S2-2109280 CR Approval 23.501 CR3242R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): Improved PTP instance configuration management Intel, NTT DOCOMO, Ericsson, Nokia Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108315r02. Approved Agreed
8.5 S2-2108426 CR Approval 23.502 CR3131R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Updating the description of UE-DS-TT Residence Time delivery to the PCF Ericsson, [Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, CATT] Rel-17 Revision of (revised and approved) S2-2107132 from S2#147E. Merged into S2-2109285 Devaki (Nokia) proposes to merge this paper with 8478 as that address the discovery part, also this paper seems to still assume the old discovery (not aligned with SoH).
György (Ericsson) proposes r01.
Qianghua (Huawei) provides r02
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) comments
Devaki (Nokia) provides r03 (although we still prefer 8478).
Qianghua (Huawei) comments for r03
Zhendong (ZTE): provides comments and prefer use 8478 as baseline
György (Ericsson) merges the CR into 8478.
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Merged
8.5 S2-2108427 CR Approval 23.503 CR0674 (Rel-17, 'F'): Parameter handling for an AF requesting a specific QoS Ericsson Rel-17 Merged into S2-2109286 Chunshan(Tencent) provides r01.
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) question for clarification
Shabnam (Ericsson) provides r02.
Mirko (Huawei) comments.
Devaki (Nokia) proposes to consider this as merged with a revision of 8479 due to many overlapping changes (although they are quite aligned technically overall).
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Merged
8.5 S2-2108428 CR Approval 23.501 CR3370 (Rel-17, 'F'): Completing funtional description for TSC Ericsson Rel-17 Confirm Specification Number - CR states 23.503! Merged into S2-2109296 Devaki (Nokia) provides r01.
Mirko (Huawei) comments and suggests to use S2-2108739 for documenting the support of time sensitive communication.
Shabnam (Ericsson) I would like to keep this separate from the CR you mention at this time. Let's see where we end up.
Shabnam (Ericsson) provides r02 removing changes in clause 6.1.3.22 and reinstated the model.
Devaki (Nokia) can live without the CR but cannot accept the model ( as it is not defined nor necessary for regular IP PDU Sessions/TSC services.
Shabnam (Ericsson) comments and provides r03, Maurice as the CR was taken on wrong spec number, if agreed I will need a new CR# on 23.503.
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Mirko (Huawei) proposes to note this CR and to use S2-2108739r01 for documenting the support of time sensitive communication.
Shabnam (Ericsson) considers this CR to be merged into 8739 and requests cosigning 8739.
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Merged
8.5 S2-2108429 CR Approval 23.502 CR3235 (Rel-17, 'F'): Adding Trusted AF in Time Synchronization procedures Ericsson Rel-17 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109281. Zhendong (ZTE): provides r01
Devaki (Nokia) comments.
Shabnam (Ericsson) responds
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Revised
8.5 S2-2109281 CR Approval 23.502 CR3235R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Adding Trusted AF in Time Synchronization procedures Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108429r01. Approved Agreed
8.5 S2-2108434 CR Approval 23.503 CR0660R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Policy for Handling of PMIC exchange with UE(s) in idle mode Samsung[, Huawei, Ericsson] Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2108136 from S2#147E. Merged into S2-2109296 Devaki (Nokia) proposes to merge this with 8428.
Sebastian (Qualcomm) objects to the CR
Shabnam (Ericsson) comments that we need to also withdraw the CR version that was approved last meeting, contents are now in 8428.
Zhendong (ZTE): proposes to merge this with 8428/8739
Sang-Jun (Samsung) agrees that the CR is merged to 8428.
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Merged
8.5 S2-2108475 CR Approval 23.501 CR3375 (Rel-17, 'F'): 23.501: TSCTSF Discovery and Selection Nokia, Nokia Shangai Bell, Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revised to S2-2108961 Revised
8.5 S2-2108961 CR Approval 23.501 CR3375R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): 23.501: TSCTSF Discovery and Selection Nokia, Nokia Shangai Bell, Huawei, HiSilicon, Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108475. r05 agreed. Revised to S2-2109282. Jari (NTT DOCOMO) objects to the CR
Qianghua (Huawei) replies
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) responds
Devaki (Nokia) replies. Based on the SoH outcome and recommended way forward, hope we can constructively progress.
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) provides r01
György (Ericsson) comments.
György (Ericsson) responds
Devaki (Nokia) thanks for the constructive progress and the revision, provides r03.
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) comments
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) provides r04
Zhendong (ZTE): provides r05
Zhendong (ZTE): provides response
Devaki (Nokia) comments.
Zhendong (ZTE): agree with devaki
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Revised
8.5 S2-2109282 CR Approval 23.501 CR3375R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): 23.501: TSCTSF Discovery and Selection Nokia, Nokia Shangai Bell, Huawei, HiSilicon, Ericsson, ZTE Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108961r05. Approved Agreed
8.5 S2-2108476 CR Approval 23.502 CR3246 (Rel-17, 'F'): 23.502: TSCTSF Discovery and Selection Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 r05 agreed. Revised to S2-2109283. Jari (NTT DOCOMO) questions for clarification
György (Ericsson) comments.
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) responds to György
Qianghua (Huawei) provides r01
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) comments, r01 does not address my previous questions
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) proposes to merge with S2-2108477
GYörgy (Ericsson) responds to Jari.
Devaki (Nokia) provides r02, comments that this CR cannot be marked as merged with 8477 as they are addressing completely different sections:
8476r01: 4.16.5.1, 5.2.5.1, 5.2.5.3.1, 5.2.5.3.3, 5.2.6.9.2, 5.2.6.9.5, 5.2.27.3.2, 5.2.27.3.3; 8477r01: 4.15.9.2, 4.16.5.1
Devaki (Nokia) provides r03.
Devaki (Nokia) provides r04.
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) provides r05.
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Revised
8.5 S2-2109283 CR Approval 23.502 CR3246R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): 23.502: TSCTSF Discovery and Selection Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Huawei, HiSilicon, Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108476r05. Approved Agreed
8.5 S2-2108477 CR Approval 23.502 CR3247 (Rel-17, 'F'): 23.502: Time Sync exposure procedure Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 r05 agreed. Revised to S2-2109284. Jari (NTT DOCOMO) objects to the CR
Devaki (Nokia) provides r01 based on comments received. Based on SoH outcome for TSCTSF discovery, hope we can constructively move forward by using this as the basis and providing revisions.
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) comments
Devaki (Nokia) provides r03.
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) objects all revisions
György (Ericsson) provides r04.
György (Ericsson) provides r05
Devaki (Nokia) replies.
György (Ericsson) responds.
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Sebastian (Qualcomm) objects to r05; would be ok with r05 if 'If time synchronization capability information from the DS-TT or NW-TT is available at the PCF, the PCF reports the capabilities to the TSCTSF invoking Npcf_PolicyAuthorization_Notify. ' can be changed to 'If PMIC/UMIC information from the DS-TT or NW-TT is available at the PCF, the PCF reports it to the TSCTSF invoking Npcf_PolicyAuthorization_Notify. ''
Devaki (Nokia) agrees with Sebastian's proposed update to r05.
György (Ericsson) OK with Sebastian's proposed update to r05.
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Qianghua (Huawei) OK with Sebastian's proposal
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8.5 S2-2109284 CR Approval 23.502 CR3247R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): 23.502: Time Sync exposure procedure Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Huawei, HiSilicon, Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108477r05. Approved Agreed
8.5 S2-2108478 CR Approval 23.502 CR3248 (Rel-17, 'F'): Fixes for AF session with required QoS update procedure Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 r05 agreed. Revised to S2-2109285, merging S2-2108426 and S2-2108819 György (Ericsson) comments.
Devaki (Nokia) provides r01 addressing the comments.
György (Ericsson) responds.
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) objects all revisions
György (Ericsson) provides r02
Qianghua (Huawei) provides r03
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) comments
György (Ericsson) provides r04.
György (Ericsson) provides r05 and comments.
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) proposes to postpone
Devaki (Nokia) comments.
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) comments.
Zhendong (ZTE): proposes to agree in this meeitng
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Qianghua (Huawei) also prefers to make some progress, and we are open to make other additional changes if possible next meeting
Devaki (Nokia) proposes updates on top of r05 to address Jari's concern and discussion with Gyorgy regarding Alt. QoS.
Uploaded as r07 in DRAFTS folder. Changes listed below explicitly
Qianghua (Huawei) OK with r07
György (Ericsson) provides r08 in the drafts folder to correct some minor aspects.
Devaki (Nokia) is fine with r08 to move forward.
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Devaki (Nokia) requests r08 to be marked for CC#2 (changes on top of r05 stated below).
Devaki (Nokia) requests that this is brought up for CC#2 to approve r08 (= agreed changes on top of r05).
Revised
8.5 S2-2109285 CR Approval 23.502 CR3248R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Fixes for AF session with required QoS update procedure Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Huawei, Ericsson, ZTE Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108478r05, merging S2-2108426 and S2-2108819. CC#2: Approved Agreed
8.5 S2-2108479 CR Approval 23.503 CR0675 (Rel-17, 'F'): Fixes for AF session with required QoS update procedure Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 r04 agreed. Revised to S2-2109286, merging S2-2108427 and S2-2108740 György (Ericsson) comments.
Devaki (Nokia) provides r01.
Devaki (Nokia) provides r02 (merging changes from 8427).
György (Ericsson) provides r03.
György (Ericsson) provides r04.
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Devaki (Nokia) proposes to move forward with r02 as r03 removes critical aspects (i.e. AF can no longer provide individual QoS parameters that can be used to determine Alt. QoS profile).
György (Ericsson) cannot accept r00-r02.
Devaki (Nokia) cannot accept r03, r04.
György (Ericsson) proposes to go with r04 (objects to r00-r02). Clarifies that r04 does not include the controversial aspects.
Devaki (Nokia) can accept r04 based on updates discussed also for TS 23.502 in r07.
Zhendong (ZTE): is fine with r04
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Revised
8.5 S2-2109286 CR Approval 23.503 CR0675R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Fixes for AF session with required QoS update procedure Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Ericsson, ZTE Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108479r04, merging S2-2108427 and S2-2108740. Approved Agreed
8.5 S2-2108539 CR Approval 23.501 CR3386 (Rel-17, 'F'): Update the correction field for the end-to-end Transparent Clock Tencent, Tencent Cloud, CATT Rel-17 r07 agreed. Revised to S2-2109287. Devaki (Nokia) provides r01.
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) question for clarification
Chunshan (Tencent) question for clarification
Sebastian (Qualcomm) comments
Chunshan(Tencent) responses to Sebastian (Qualcomm).
Chunshan(Tencent) provides r02.
Chunshan(Tencent) provides r03.
Shabnam (Ericsson) provides comments and have concerns as introduces serious issues, I provide r04 but may need to further update.
Chunshan(Tencent) responses to Shabnam (Ericsson).
Chunshan(Tencent) provides r05.
Shabnam (Ericsson) provides r06, based on r04 and objects to all other revisions
Chunshan(Tencent) provides r07.
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Devaki (Nokia) comments that the cover sheet shall clarify CR#3260 should not be approved by SA plenary.
Chunshan (Tencent) responses to Devaki (Nokia) that the content of the CR#3260 is not included in the r06/r07 anymore.
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Revised
8.5 S2-2109287 CR Approval 23.501 CR3386R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Update the correction field for the end-to-end Transparent Clock Tencent, Tencent Cloud, CATT Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108539r07. Approved Agreed
8.5 S2-2108540 CR Approval 23.501 CR3286R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Time Synchronization of the 5GS as IEEE 1588 Boundary Clock Tencent, Tencent Cloud, CATT Rel-17 Revision of (Noted) S2-2107343 from S2#147E. Noted Devaki (Nokia) provides r01.
Sang-Jun (Samsung) asks for clarification why 5.27.1.1 and 5.27.1.2.2.2 are different.
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) proposes to postpone
Saso (Intel) points out that there is an alternative proposal in S2-2108877. It is fine to use this thread for the discussion.
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) responds to Saso (Intel)
Chunshan (Tencent) responses to Jari.
Chunshan (Tencent) comments 8877 on this thread.
Saso (intel) replies to Chunshan (Tencent).
Chunshan (Tencent) comments on Saso (intel).
Sebastian (Qualcomm) objects to the CR for the reason that we should first wait for the feedback from SMPTE before we make changes as the ones proposed in this CR
Chunshan (Tencent) points out that the CR is to solve the conflict between the TS and IEEE 1588 and is not related with the LS of SMPTE, and wants to say that Sebastian (Qualcomm) objection is not reasonable.
Chunshan (Tencent) provides r02.
Sang-Jun (Samsung) confirms changes of r02 are fine.
Chunshan (Tencent) responses to Saso (Intel) that solutions of 8870 is incomplete.
Chunshan (Tencent) response to Saso (Intel).
Chunshan (Tencent) responses to Saso (Intel).
Shabnam (Ericsson) maintains objection to this CR, provides detailed comments
Chunshan (Tencent) responses to Shabnam (Ericsson).
Shabnam (Ericsson) maintains objection to this CR, provides responses
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Noted
8.5 S2-2108626 CR Approval 23.501 CR3404 (Rel-17, 'F'): Principle for Handling of PMIC exchange with UE(s) in idle mode Samsung Rel-17 Noted Devaki (Nokia) proposes to note the CR.
Sang-Jun (Samsung) replies to Devaki (Nokia).
Sebastian (Qualcomm) objects to the CR
Zhendong (ZTE): similar view with nokia
Sang-Jun (Samsung) provides r01.
Sebastian (Qualcomm) objects to r01 (reasons already given)
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Noted
8.5 S2-2108627 CR Approval 23.502 CR3267 (Rel-17, 'F'): Procedure for Handling of PMIC exchange with UE(s) in idle mode Samsung Rel-17 Noted Devaki (Nokia) proposes to note the CR.
Sang-Jun (Samsung) replies to Devaki (Nokia).
Sebastian (Qualcomm) objects to the CR
Haiyang (Huawei) provides r01
Sang-Jun (Samsung) can accept r01.
Sebastian (Qualcomm) objects to r01 (reasons already given)
Shabnam (Ericsson) objects to original and r01 (reasons already given by Nokia and Qualcomm)
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Sang-Jun (Samsung) points out that r01 is listing some examples to the existing description on ATC for clarification.
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Noted
8.5 S2-2108630 CR Approval 23.501 CR3405 (Rel-17, 'F'): Relationship between Sync Exposure and Time Distribution Samsung Rel-17 r03 agreed. Revised to S2-2109288. Devaki (Nokia) provides r01
Shabnam (Ericsson) asks clarification to the proposed changes, don't believe this CR is needed.
Sang-Jun (Samsung) provides r02.
Shabnam (Ericsson) comments that it is already described in the same clause so no reason for duplication?
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Sang-Jun (Samsung) can accept r03 provided by Shabnam (Ericsson).
Devaki (Nokia) comments that r03 is not correct for ASTI.
Shabnam (Ericsson) comments that on high level without going into all parameters and first sentence of the clause reading, r03 is correct, and that is why prefer not to duplicate between specs. Proposes to approve r03 and not r02 as marked in chair's notes.
Sang-Jun (Samsung) can accept r00, r02 and r03, and comments that r03 can work.
Devaki (Nokia) comments that the parameters should not have been included i.e. using the DNN and S-NSSAI. R03 is ok only if the parameters are removed. Otherwise, can accept r01 only.
Devaki (Nokia) comments that the ASTI procedure for a single UE is sent using UE ID and not DNN/S-NSSAI (rather DNN/S-NSSAI is a special case only for any UE). OK with r03 if DNN/S-NSSAI is removed.
Sang-Jun (Samsung) can accept r03 without 'using the DNN and S-NSSAI'.
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) accept r02, or can accept r03 without 'using the DNN and S-NSSAI'.
Sang-Jun (Samsung) provides r03+update in CC#2 folder in case we need to confirm. r03 is before deadline, and update is deleting 'using the DNN and S-NSSAI'.
Shabnam (Ericsson) OK with Samsung revision of r03+update deleting 'using the DNN and S-NSSAI' and approve at CC#2.
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Revised
8.5 S2-2109288 CR Approval 23.501 CR3405R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Relationship between Sync Exposure and Time Distribution Samsung, Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108630r03. Approved Agreed
8.5 S2-2108632 CR Approval 23.503 CR0680 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction on 5G access stratum time distribution parameters Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 r04 agreed. Revised to S2-2109289. Devaki (Nokia) provides r01.
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) question for clarification
Zhendong (ZTE): provides r02
Haiyang (Huawei): provides r03 on top of r02
Shabnam (Ericsson) has concerns on the revisions as they are not acceptable, comments
Haiyang (Huawei) provides r04
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Shabnam (Ericsson) Thanks Sunhaiyang, comments that NOTE 10 is not complete, we need to have a revision to fix that.
Chunshan (Tencent) comments that a new revision is needed since the new added NOTE 10 is incomplete.
Haiyang (Huawei) suggests to go with [r04 + add 'enabled' in NOTE 10], (may need confirmation at CC#2)
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Revised
8.5 S2-2109289 CR Approval 23.503 CR0680R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction on 5G access stratum time distribution parameters Huawei, HiSilicon, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108632r04. Approved Agreed
8.5 S2-2108633 CR Approval 23.501 CR3406 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction on 5G access stratum time distribution Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109290, merging S2-2108821 Devaki (Nokia) provides r01.
Zhendong (ZTE): agree with nokia
Shabnam (Ericsson) agrees with Nokia updates but requires additional corrections and provides via r02
Haiyang (Huawei) has questions on r01/r02
Devaki (Nokia) replies.
Haiyang (Huawei) replies
Zhendong (ZTE): provides response
Haiyang (Huawei) replies to Zhendong (ZTE) and provides r03
Shabnam (Ericsson) does not agree to r03, provides comment
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Haiyang (Huawei) can live with r02
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Revised
8.5 S2-2109290 CR Approval 23.501 CR3406R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction on 5G access stratum time distribution Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108633r02, merging S2-2108821. Approved Agreed
8.5 S2-2108634 CR Approval 23.502 CR3268 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction on 5G access stratum time distribution Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Noted Shabnam (Ericsson) comments regarding the NOTE in clause 4.15.9.1 and 4.15.9.3.2 step 6, last paragraph.
Haiyang (Huawei) replies to Shabnam (Ericsson).
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Jar (NTT DOCOMO) proposes to note
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Noted
8.5 S2-2108635 CR Approval 23.502 CR3269 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarifications on the use of DS-TT port MAC address Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109291. Chunshan(Tencent) provides r01 and comments .
Zhendong (ZTE): provides comments
Haiyang (Huawei) provides r02.
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Revised
8.5 S2-2109291 CR Approval 23.502 CR3269R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarifications on the use of DS-TT port MAC address Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108635r02. Approved Agreed
8.5 S2-2108636 CR Approval 23.503 CR0681 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarifications on the use of DS-TT port MAC address Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109292. Chunshan(Tencent) proposes to note this paper.
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) agrees with Chunshan, proposes to note this paper.
Haiyang (Huawei) indicates this paper is the alignment with agreed 501 CR S2-2108128 and is only related to the binding.
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) comments
György (Ericsson) comments
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) provides r01
Haiyang (Huawei) is OK with r01
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Revised
8.5 S2-2109292 CR Approval 23.503 CR0681R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarifications on the use of DS-TT port MAC address Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108636r01. Approved Agreed
8.5 S2-2108646 CR Approval 23.503 CR0682 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarifications on Policy for AF Samsung Rel-17 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109293. Mirko (Huawei) comments.
Sang-Jun (Samsung) provides r01 as per Mirko (Huawei)' comments.
Yuan Tao (CATT) comments.
Shabnam (Ericsson) agrees with CATT, the content of 6.2.10 needs to be moved under 6.2.3.
Sang-Jun (Samsung) provides r03.
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Mirko (Huawei) can only accept r01 and objects to all other versions.
Sang-Jun (Samsung) can accept r01 and r03.
Yuan Tao (CATT) prefer r03.
Mirko (Huawei) responds.
Yuan Tao (CATT) can accept r01.
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Revised
8.5 S2-2109293 CR Approval 23.503 CR0682R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarifications on Policy for AF Samsung Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108646r01. Approved Agreed
8.5 S2-2108705 CR Approval 23.501 CR3322R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Processing (g)PTP messages for domain numbers and while in Disabled state NTT DOCOMO, Intel Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107617 from S2#147E. r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109294. Chunshan(Tencent) provides r01 and comments.
Haiyang (Huawei) agrees with Chunshan (Tencent).
Yuan Tao (CATT) agrees with Tencent and Huawei.
Zhendong (ZTE): provides comments
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) responds to Zhendong
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Revised
8.5 S2-2109294 CR Approval 23.501 CR3322R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Processing (g)PTP messages for domain numbers and while in Disabled state NTT DOCOMO, Intel Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108705r01. Approved Agreed
8.5 S2-2108738 CR Approval 23.501 CR3107R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): QoS parameter handling for TSC Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of (Endorsed) S2-2108139 from S2#147E. r04 agreed. Revised to S2-2109295. Devaki (Nokia) objects to r00, provides r01.
Zhendong (ZTE): prefer go with approved CR in the last meeting
Sebastian (Qualcomm) provides r02
Mirko (Huawei) responds.
Shabnam (Ericsson) supports Qualcomm's r02.
Sang-Jun (Samsung) provides r03.
Sang-Jun (Samsung) provides r04.
Mirko (Huawei) can accept r04.
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Revised
8.5 S2-2109295 CR Approval 23.501 CR3107R4 (Rel-17, 'F'): QoS parameter handling for TSC Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108738r04. Approved Agreed
8.5 S2-2108739 CR Approval 23.503 CR0634R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): QoS parameter handling for TSC Huawei, HiSilicon, Samsung Rel-17 Revision of (Endorsed) S2-2108140 from S2#147E. r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109296, merging S2-2108428 and S2-2108434 Jari (NTT DOCOMO) comments
Mirko (Huawei) responds.
Shabnam (Ericsson) comments that the new clause repeats requirements from 23.501 and prefer to rather use reference instead towards 23.501/23.502.
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) provides r01
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Devaki (Nokia) prefers r01 (straight forward overview of the new clause), does not prefer r0 with listing exceptions.
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Revised
8.5 S2-2109296 CR Approval 23.503 CR0634R4 (Rel-17, 'F'): QoS parameter handling for TSC Huawei, HiSilicon, Samsung, Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108739r01, merging S2-2108428 and S2-2108434. Approved Agreed
8.5 S2-2108740 CR Approval 23.503 CR0686 (Rel-17, 'F'): QoS parameter handling for TSC Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Merged into S2-2109286 Shabnam (Ericsson) comments on a number of aspects for this CR that requires first clarification before approval or revision
Devaki (Nokia) has concerns with the CR as they are not corrections, propose to merge with 8479 and use that as baseline to start with essential updates to this section.
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Merged
8.5 S2-2108819 CR Approval 23.502 CR3208R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Fix the EN on the priority in the AF session with required QoS procedure ZTE Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107661 from S2#147E. Merged into S2-2109285 Devaki (Nokia) comments.
Zhendong (ZTE): provides r01
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György (Ericsson) proposes to consider this merged into 8478 (similar change is made there).
Zhendong (ZTE): agree with György
Merged
8.5 S2-2108820 CR Approval 23.501 CR3330R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on the time synchronization ZTE Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107664 from S2#147E. Approved Agreed
8.5 S2-2108821 CR Approval 23.501 CR3435 (Rel-17, 'F'): Removing the PDU session description in 5G access stratum time synchronization distribution method ZTE Rel-17 Merged into S2-2109290 Haiyang (Huawei) suggests to merge this paper into S2-2108633
Zhendong (ZTE): is fine with merge proposal
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Merged
8.5 S2-2108847 CR Approval 23.501 CR3438 (Rel-17, 'F'): Multiple PTP instances supported in 5GS Tencent, Tencent Cloud Rel-17 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109297. Devaki (Nokia) comments that this CR is a duplicate of 8541. Mark this as merged or the other one as merged. Same technical concerns apply.
Chunshan (Tencent) provides r02.
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) provides r02
Chunshan (Tencent) provides the r04. Jari (NTT DOCOMO) provides r03 in the previous comment.
György (Ericsson) comments and prefers r01.
Chunshan (Tencent) response to György (Ericsson).
Sang-Jun (Samsung) comments.
Devaki (Nokia) can also accept only r01.
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Devaki (Nokia) can accept r01 (objects to other revisions for reasons stated earlier).
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Revised
8.5 S2-2109297 CR Approval 23.501 CR3438R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Multiple PTP instances supported in 5GS Tencent, Tencent Cloud Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108847r01. Approved Agreed
8.5 S2-2108849 CR Approval 23.502 CR3296 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarifications regarding TSCTSF discovery and selection NTT DOCOMO Rel-17 Noted Devaki (Nokia) objects to the CR and its revisions as the proposed approach to define discovery and selection per service is way too complex for little benefit.
Qianghua (Huawei) proposes to note this CR
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) responds
György (Ericsson) suggests to note this document given the SoH outcome on Monday.
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Noted
8.5 S2-2108850 CR Approval 23.502 CR3297 (Rel-17, 'F'): Updates on AS time distribution CATT Rel-17 Noted Devaki (Nokia) has objections to the CR as it is technically wrong - ASTI service cannot use a PTP instance reference as ID.
Yuan Tao replies to Devaki (Nokia) and ask for clarification.
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) agrees with Nokia, CR is incorrect
Sebastian (Qualcomm) objects to the CR (PTP Instance IDs do not make sense for ASTI as commented by others also)
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Noted
8.5 S2-2108851 CR Approval 23.503 CR0689 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clafication on bridge information notification CATT Rel-17 r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109298. György (Ericsson) comments.
Yuan Tao (CATT) provides r01.
Mirko (Huawei) comments.
Sang-Jun (samsung) confirms 8646 is updated to remove clause 6.2.10 from 23.503.
Yuan Tao (CATT) replies to Mirko (Huawei).
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) responds to Mirko
Yuan Tao (CATT) provides r02.
Mirko (Huawei) provides r03.
Yuan Tao responses to Mirko (Huawei).
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Yuan Tao (CATT) suggests to approve r02.
Mirko (Huawei) is ok with r02.
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Revised
8.5 S2-2109298 CR Approval 23.503 CR0689R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clafication on bridge information notification CATT Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108851r02. Approved Agreed
8.5 S2-2108852 CR Approval 23.501 CR3439 (Rel-17, 'F'): Update on configuration for Sync and Announce reception timeouts CATT Rel-17 Approved Agreed
8.5 S2-2108877 CR Approval 23.501 CR3448 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction on PTP message handling in Boundary Clock Intel Rel-17 Noted Chunshan(Tencent) proposes this paper to be merged into paper S2-2108540.
Saso (Intel) is happy to discuss on the 8540 thread, but disagrees with the merger.
Chunshan (Tencent) comments to Saso (Intel) that your paper is not complete.
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Chunshan (Tencent) objects this CR.
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Noted
8.5 S2-2108933 CR Approval 23.501 CR3456 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarifications regarding TSCTSF discovery and selection NTT DOCOMO Rel-17 Noted Devaki (Nokia) proposes to merge this CR with 8971/8476.
Sang-Jun (Samsung) also proposes this CR and 8961/8476 should be merged, and corrects the number 8971 to be 8961 in Nokia's comemnt.
Jari (NTT DOCOMO) does not agree to merge
Qianghua (Huawei) proposes to go with 08961.
György (Ericsson) suggests to note this document given the SoH outcome on Monday.
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Devaki (Nokia) proposes to note the document based on Monday SoH outcome (or mark it as merged with 8961).
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Noted
8.5 S2-2108822 CR Approval 23.502 CR3291 (Rel-18, 'F'): Clarification on the Ntsctsf_QoSandTSCAssistance related service operation ZTE Rel-18 Approved Agreed
8.6 - - - Access Traffic Steering, Switch and Splitting support in the 5G system architecture Phase 2 (ATSSS_Ph2) - - Docs:=5 -
8.6 S2-2108480 CR Approval 23.503 CR0654R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Extending MA PDU Session Control information in the PCC Rule [Ericsson, Lenovo, Motorola Mobility], LG Electronics Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107828 from S2#147E. r06 agreed. Revised to S2-2109095, merging S2-2108795 Rainer (Nokia) asks for clarification.
Myungjune (LGE) replies to Rainer (Nokia).
Belen (Ericsson) objects to this revision
Dario (Qualcomm) comments.
Apostolis (Lenovo) has also concerns with this CR.
Myungjune (LGE) provides r01.
Apostolis (Lenovo) provides further comments.
Myungjune (LGE) provides r03.
Rainer (Nokia) provides r04.
Myungjune (LGE) is ok with r04
Apostolis (Lenovo) is also OK with r04
Belen (Ericsson) provides r05 and objects to previous revision and initial version.
Apostolis (Lenovo) responds to Belen.
Belen (Ericsson) disagrees with Apostolis proposal.
Dario (Qualcomm) supports r04
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Revised
8.6 S2-2109095 CR Approval 23.503 CR0654R4 (Rel-17, 'F'): Extending MA PDU Session Control information in the PCC Rule Ericsson, Lenovo, Motorola Mobility, LG Electronics Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108480r06, merging S2-2108795. Approved Agreed
8.6 S2-2108730 CR Approval 23.501 CR3421 (Rel-17, 'F'): 23.501 Clarification on threshold values Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109096. Dario S. Tonesi (Qualcomm) provides r01
Apostolis (Lenovo) provides r02
Rainer (Nokia) is ok with r02.
Hualin (Huawei) is ok with r02.
Dario (Qualcomm) is OK with r02
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Revised
8.6 S2-2109096 CR Approval 23.501 CR3421R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on threshold values Huawei, HiSilicon, Lenovo, Motorola Mobility Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108730r02. Approved Agreed
8.6 S2-2108795 CR Approval 23.503 CR0654R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): Extending MA PDU Session Control information in the PCC Rule [Ericsson, Lenovo, Motorola Mobility], Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107828 from S2#147E. Merged into S2-2109095 Rainer (Nokia) asks for clarification.
Apostolis (Lenovo) proposes to merge this into 8480.
Susan (Huawei) replies to Rainer (Nokia) and is ok to merge to 8480.
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Merged
8.7 - - - Support of Aerial Systems Connectivity, Identification, and Tracking (ID_UAS) - - Docs:=39 -
8.7 S2-2108281 LS In Information LS on GTP-C cause value used for UAS services CT WG1 (C1-216293) Rel-17 Noted DongYeon (Samsung) proposes NOTE this LS, since no action required from SA2.
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Noted
8.7 S2-2109369 LS In Action LS from CT WG1: LS on EPS requirements for ID_UAS CT WG1 (C1-217131) Rel-17 CC#2: Response drafted in S2-2109342. Final response in S2-2109342. Replied to
8.7 S2-2109342 LS OUT Approval Reply LS on EPS requirements for ID_UAS SA WG2 Rel-17 CC#2: Created at CC#2. Response to S2-2109369. This was left for review at CC#3. CC#3: Approved Approved
8.7 S2-2108431 CR Approval 23.256 CR0031R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): TS 23.256: Rapporteur Editorial CR Qualcomm Incorporated, Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107971 from S2#147E. r03 agreed. Revised to S2-2109149. Guanglei (Huawei) provides r01
Stefano (Qualcomm) provides r02, cannot accept r01
Guanglei (Huawei) provides r03
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Stefano (Qualcomm) ok with r03.
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Revised
8.7 S2-2109149 CR Approval 23.256 CR0031R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): TS 23.256: Rapporteur Editorial CR Qualcomm Incorporated, Ericsson, Huawei, Hisilicon Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108431r03. Approved Agreed
8.7 S2-2108430 CR Approval 23.256 CR0032 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction of UUAA when aerial subscription is missing Ericsson Rel-17 r06 agreed. Revised to S2-2109150. DongYeon (Samsung) asks a question for clarification.
Stefano (Qualcomm) provides comments.
Ashok (Samsung) comments
Shabnam (Ericsson) responds and provides r01.
Ashok (Samsung) comments and provides r02 with way forward
Stefano (Qualcomm) provides comments, not Ok with r02, has questions on r01.
Ashok (Samsung) responds to Stefano (Qualcomm)
Guanzhou (InterDigital) can't accept r02.
Shabnam (Ericsson) provides r03 addressing Qualcomm comment and adding cosigning company.
Tricci (OPPO) provides r04 to update the latest descriptions regarding the actual reason of the indication.
Ashok (Samsung) is OK with r04.
Dimitris (Lenovo) provides r06
Shabnam (Ericsson) agrees with r06.
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Revised
8.7 S2-2109150 CR Approval 23.256 CR0032R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction of UUAA when aerial subscription is missing Ericsson, Qualcomm Inc. Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108430r06. Approved Agreed
8.7 S2-2108438 CR Approval 23.256 CR0033 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction on C2 authorization procedure InterDigital Rel-17 Noted Jaewoo (LGE) provides comment.
Pallab (Nokia) comments and raises concern with the proposed changes.
Dimitris (Lenovo) agrees with the views from Pallab (Nokia)
Guanzhou (InterDigital) responds to Jaewoo (LGE) comment.
Guanzhou (InterDigital) responds to Pallab(Nokia) comments.
Shabnam (Ericsson) expresses concerns and don't believe the CR as is agreeable, comments.
Dimitris (Lenovo) comments
Guanzhou (InterDigital) provides further response.
Guanzhou (InterDigital) provides r01 for consistent service name.
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Pallab (Nokia) comments and proposes to NOTE the CR
Shabnam (Ericsson) objects to all versions, proposes to discuss offline further if there is an issue and can be solved via, e.g., Ericsson proposed changes in steps within current procedures.
Pallab (Nokia) responds to Jaewoo (LGE)
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Noted
8.7 S2-2108456 CR Approval 23.502 CR3240 (Rel-17, 'F'): UASNF registration and discovery Samsung Rel-17 r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109151. Dimitris (Lenovo) provides r01
Shabnam (Ericsson) agrees with Lenovo proposed revision in r01, also asks to update the CR cover sheet to reflect the proposed changes.
Ashok (Samsung) provides r02
Dimitris (Lenovo) is ok with r02
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Revised
8.7 S2-2109151 CR Approval 23.502 CR3240R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): UASNF registration and discovery Samsung Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108456r02. Approved Agreed
8.7 S2-2108457 CR Approval 23.256 CR0009R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): UUAA-MM Procedure Updates Samsung,OPPO Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2108173 from S2#147E. Noted Stefano (Qualcomm) objects to this paper since the solution is not necessary, as discussed at the last meeting and offline.
Ashok (Samsung) does not agree with Stefano (Qualcomm) and need clarification for objection
Stefano (Qualcomm) re-iterates that the solution is not necessary.
Ashok (Samsung) responds to Stefano (Qualcomm)
Dimitris (Lenovo) agrees with QCOM that solution is not needed and already addressed in stage 3
Ashok (Samsung) responds to Dimitris (Lenovo)
Guanzhou (InterDigital) shares the position of Stefano (Qualcomm)
Ashok (Samsung) responds to Guanzhou (InterDigital)
Ashok (Samsung) is OK to NOTE the paper
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Noted
8.7 S2-2108458 DISCUSSION Information Discussion on UE impact because of change in Aerial subscription. Samsung Rel-17 Noted Noted
8.7 S2-2108542 CR Approval 23.256 CR0035 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clean up for UUAA-MM procedure LG Electronics Rel-17 Confirm CR Number - CR states ! r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109152. Shabnam (Ericsson) comments asking clarification.
Jaewoo (LGE) responds to Shabnam (Ericsson) and provides r01.
DongYeon (Samsung) comments.
Jaewoo (LGE) responds to DongYeon (Samsung) and provides r02.
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DongYeon (Samsung) is okay with r02 and r00, and objects to r01.
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Revised
8.7 S2-2109152 CR Approval 23.256 CR0035R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clean up for UUAA-MM procedure LG Electronics Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108542r02. Approved Agreed
8.7 S2-2108564 CR Approval 23.256 CR0037 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification for UUAA-SM procedure when UUAA-MM performed LG Electronics Rel-17 Confirm CR Number - CR states ! Noted Pallab (Nokia) comments and asks for clarification. Raises concern with some of the changes.
Dimitris (Lenovo) comments
Jaewoo (LGE) responds to Pallab (Nokia) and Dimitris (Lenovo).
Pallab (Nokia) responds to Jaewoo (LGE)
Jaewoo (LGE) responds to Pallab (Nokia).
Guanglei(Huawei) provides comments.
Jaewoo (LGE) responds to Guanglei (Huawei).
Guanzhou (InterDigital) comments and provides r01.
Guanzhou (InterDigital) corrects its previous comment that no r01 was provided.
Shabnam (Ericsson) provides comments and shares others concerns
Jaewoo (LGE) responds to Guanzhou (InterDigital) and Shabnam (Ericsson).
Guanglei(Huawei) kindly reminds that it is already possible for NEF to receive DNN and S-NSSAI parameters from AF, besides mapping from AF identifier to DNN and S-NSSAI by NEF.
Jaewoo (LGE) responds to Pallab (Nokia) and Guanglei (Huawei).
Ashok (Samsung) responds to Jaewoo
Stefano (Qualcomm) comments, not convinced this solution is needed at all.
Jaewoo (LGE) proposes to note this CR.
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Noted
8.7 S2-2108703 CR Approval 23.256 CR0011R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarify the implicit subscription during the UUAA procedure Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107959 from S2#147E. Approved Agreed
8.7 S2-2108761 CR Approval 23.256 CR0043 (Rel-17, 'F'): Network Initiated UUAA Revocation Samsung, InterDigital, SK Telecom, LG Uplus Rel-17 Postponed DongYeon (Samsung) provides r01, AT&T is added in source.
Dimitris (Lenovo) comments
Pallab (Nokia) agrees with the comments from Dimitris (Lenovo) and also feels that the changes proposed in the CR are not needed
Guanglei (Huawei) also thinks this CR is not correct.
Guanzhou (InterDigital) responds to Dimitris (Lenovo) and Pallab (Nokia) comments.
DongYeon (Samsung) replies to Dimitris (Lenovo) and Pallab (Nokia).
DongYeon (Samsung) replies to Guanglei (Huawei)
Dimitris (Lenovo) responds
DongYeon (Samsung) replies.
Guanzhou (InterDigital) further comments.
Pallab (Nokia) comments and proposes to NOTE the CR
Guanzhou (InterDigital) responds to Pallab (Nokia) and thinks this issue should be addressed in R17.
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Pallab (Nokia) responds to Guanzhou (InterDigital) and maintains objection
DongYeon (Samsung) proposes to postpone this CR.
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Postponed
8.7 S2-2108623 CR Approval 23.256 CR0038 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarifications on UUAA context during revocation procedure Samsung Rel-17 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109153. Shabnam (Ericsson) provides r01 correcting 'response' to 'respond'
Guanglei (Huawei) provides comments.
DongYeon (Samsung) is Okay with r01, and replies to Guanglei (Huawei).
Guanglei (Huawei) replies.
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Revised
8.7 S2-2109153 CR Approval 23.256 CR0038R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarifications on UUAA context during revocation procedure Samsung Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108623r01. Approved Agreed
8.7 S2-2108550 CR Approval 23.256 CR0036 (Rel-17, 'F'): Replace of the term pairing authorization LG Electronics Rel-17 Confirm CR Number - CR states ! r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109154. Jaewoo (LGE) provides r01.
Guanglei (Huawei) provides comments and r02
Jaewoo (LGE) responds to Guanglei (Huawei) and is fine with r02.
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Revised
8.7 S2-2109154 CR Approval 23.256 CR0036R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Replace of the term pairing authorization LG Electronics Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108550r02. Approved Agreed
8.7 S2-2108553 CR Approval 23.256 CR0002R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification and EN resolution for SMF Services LG Electronics Rel-17 Revision of (Noted) S2-2107150 from S2#147E. Remove Revision Marks from CR Cover! r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109155. Jaewoo (LGE) provides r01.
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Guanzhou (InterDigital) objects to the original version and is OK with r01.
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Revised
8.7 S2-2109155 CR Approval 23.256 CR0002R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification and EN resolution for SMF Services LG Electronics Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108553r01. Approved Agreed
8.7 S2-2108628 CR Approval 23.256 CR0039 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarifications and corrections on UAV Re-authentication and the Networked Remote ID terminology China Mobile Rel-17 r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109156. Stefano (Qualcomm) objects to this paper if networked Remote ID is removed.
Aihua(CMCC) asks Stefano (Qualcomm) for clarification.
Tricci (OPPO) prefers to keep the PDU Session IP and would like to propose to NOTE this CR because the changes are not needed.
Guanglei (Huawei) provides comments and thinks at least one change is needed and provides r01.
Pallab (Nokia) comments that changes in r01 is also not correct
Guanglei (Huawei) replies to Pallab(Nokia) and provides r02 to reflect Pallab's opinion
Stefano (Qualcomm) provides responses.
Guanglei (Huawei) thanks Stefano's (Qualcomm) clarification and propose to discuss r01 and r02.
Tricci (OPPO) thanks Guanglei (Huawei) for the update and withdraws previous objection.
Aihua(CMCC) suggests to proceed with r02.
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Stefano (Qualcomm) ok with r02, indicates to chair r00 is not acceptable.
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Revised
8.7 S2-2109156 CR Approval 23.256 CR0039R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarifications and corrections on UAV Re-authentication China Mobile, Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108628r02. Approved Agreed
8.7 S2-2108911 CR Approval 23.502 CR3307 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction on CAA-level UAV ID in AMF UE context China Mobile Rel-17 Noted Pallab (Nokia) has the similar comments as in 8910. We need to first agree if AMF stores CAA-Level UAV Id in its context
Pallab (Nokia) provides r01 where CAA-Level UAV ID is changed to Service Level Device Identity. This is a revision to correct the identifier name. This should not be considered as Nokia's acceptance of the CR.
Pallab (Nokia) proposes to NOTE the CR based on objections in 8910.
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Noted
8.7 S2-2108699 CR Approval 23.256 CR0040 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction on UAS NF discovery and UAS NF functionality Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 r05 agreed. Revised to S2-2109157. Stefano (Qualcomm) expresses concerns on the sentence wrt the use of USS Address for USS discovery and provides R01.
Guanglei (Huawei) replies and provides r02
Tricci (OPPO) asks Huawei for the further clarification for the proposed change from this CR
Guanglei (Huawei) replies to Tricci(OPPO)
Tricci (OPPO) thanks Guanglei (Huawei) reply and provides suggestion for the changes.
Guanglei (Huawei) provides r03
Dimitris (Lenovo) has a question on r03
Pallab (Nokia) asks for clarification on r03
Guanglei (Huawei) replies to Pallab(Nokia) and Demitris(Lenovo)
Tricci (OPP) understands the concern from Pallab (Nokia) and proposes further suggestions to the revised text.
Guanglei (Huawei) provides r04 to revise the UAS NF functionality.
Pallab (Nokia) comments.
Guanglei(Huawei) replies to Pallab (Nokia).
Guanglei(Huawei) provides r05 to remove the text about UAS NF storing subscription from USS
Tricci (OPPO) responds to Pallab (Nokia) comments.
Pallab (Nokia) is OK with r05.
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Tricci (OPPO) agrees to approve r05.
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Revised
8.7 S2-2109157 CR Approval 23.256 CR0040R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction on UAS NF discovery and UAS NF functionality Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108699r05. Approved Agreed
8.7 S2-2108909 CR Approval 23.256 CR0044 (Rel-17, 'F'): Corrections on usage of Nnef_AFsessionWithQoS service for UAS China Mobile Rel-17 Approved Guanglei(Huawei) ask for clarification.
Yi (China Mobile) reponds to Guanglei.
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Guanglei (Huawei) thanks Yi's clarification and is fine with r00
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Agreed
8.7 S2-2108700 CR Approval 23.501 CR3416 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction on UAS NF discovery and update UAS related AF and NEF service Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Confirm CR Number - CR states ! r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109158. Shabnam (Ericsson) comments that we need to first agree if USS information is to be used or not for UAS NF discovery. If this mechanism is kept, then we need to convert the NOTE into normative as the text is normative in the NOTE.
Guanglei(Huawei) replies to Shabnam (Ericsson).
Ashok (Samsung) comments
Tricci (OPPO) provides comments.
Pallab (Nokia) comments and suggests that capability of AMF/SMF to discover UAS NF/NEF based on UE provided USS address may be required in future.
Tricci (OPPO) would like to reiterate our preference to keep the existing NOTE - no issue to leverage the AF address (e.g. FQDN) to discover UAS NF.
Stefano (Qualcomm) asks whether there is a revision or what.
Guanglei(Huawei) provides r01
Pallab (Nokia) is OK with r01 and points out that cover page is missing CR number.
Pallab (Nokia) provides r02 to change the normative text in NOTE 'may' to 'can'. Also with cover page changes.
Dimitris (Lenovo) has concerns with using USS address for UAS NF/NEF discovery as it is not a complete solution
Pallab (Nokia) reminds that using USS address for UAS NF/NEF discovery is not the only option. It is an additional option that the AMF/SMF can use. Besides NEF already supports registering to NRF with domain names served by the NEF.
Shabnam (Ericsson) supports the latest version of the CR and clarifies that the function already exists in the spec as 'may' so changing to 'can' softens requirement.
Stefano (Qualcomm) proposes to postpone 8700 and 8701 together with 8724 until we have a complete view of the options and solutions.
Guanglei (Huawei) proposes to accept r01
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Shabnam (Ericsson) and the NOTE should not have 'may' normative text, should fix that too and go with latest revision. We still stay 'status quo' I believe.
Guanglei (Huawei) re-proposes to accept r02
Tricci (OPPO) supports to accept r02
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Revised
8.7 S2-2109158 CR Approval 23.501 CR3416R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction on UAS NF discovery and update UAS related AF and NEF service Huawei, HiSilicon, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108700r02. Approved Agreed
8.7 S2-2108701 CR Approval 23.502 CR3275 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction on NEF discovery Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Postponed Pallab (Nokia) indicates that this CR depends on the discussion in S2-2108700
Stefano (Qualcomm) asks whether there is a revision based on discussion of S2-2108700.
Pallab (Nokia) provides r01 to make the NOTE a normative text.
Dimitris (Lenovo) has concerns with r01
Stefano (Qualcomm) proposes to postpone 8700 and 8701 together with 8724 until we have a complete view of the options and solutions.
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Guanglei (Huawei) is fine to postpone
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Postponed
8.7 S2-2108702 CR Approval 23.256 CR0010R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification and Correction on AF and NEF authentication service Huawei, HiSilicon, [Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell?], [LG Electronics?] Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107963 from S2#147E. Confirm Sources! r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109159. Jaewoo (LGE) would like to co-sign and provides r01.
Pallab (Nokia) OK with r01 and would like to co-sign.
DongYeon (Samsung) comments.
Jaewoo (LGE) responds to DongYeon (Samsung).
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Guanglei (Huawei) is ok with r01
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Revised
8.7 S2-2109159 CR Approval 23.256 CR0010R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification and Correction on AF and NEF authentication service Huawei, HiSilicon, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, LG Electronics Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108702r01. Approved Agreed
8.7 S2-2108724 CR Approval 23.256 CR0042 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on discovering a UAS NF/NEF during UUAA-MM/UUAA-SM Lenovo, Motorola Mobility, Rel-17 Noted Ashok (Samsung) comments and proposed to merge to S2-2108699
Stefano (Qualcomm) does not see the need to merge with S2-2108699
Ashok (Samsung) responds to Stefano (Qualcomm)
Guanglei (Huawei) provides comments and provides r01
Tricci (OPPO) also raised concern of the proposal for proposing to leverage CAA Level ID for AMF/SMF to discover UAS NF.
Pallab (Nokia) also raises concern on the proposal for using CAA Level ID for AMF/SMF to discover UAS NF.
Shabnam (Ericsson) shares similar view as Nokia and would be ok with 'AMF/SMF can discover based on local configuration or use UAS NF capability indication when discovering the NEF using NRF'.
Dimitris (Lenovo) can accept r01 provided by Guanglei (Huawei)
Pallab (Nokia) proposes to NOTE the CR. As discussed in 8700, we think it is good to keep the option of AMF/SMF discover UAS NF/NEF based on USS address provided by UE. Hence propose to NOTE this CR
Dimitris (Lenovo) points as described in 8700 that UAS NF/NEF discovery using USS address is not a complete solution
Pallab (Nokia) reminds that it is well defined how NEF is discovered based of AF address
Dimitris (Lenovo) responds to Pallab (Nokia)
Pallab (Nokia) responds to Dimitris (Lenovo)
Dimitris (Lenovo) further responds
Stefano (Qualcomm) OK to postpone the discussion on 8724 but will request to postpone 8700 and 8701 also.
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Tricci (OPPO) prefers to NOTE this CR based on the reason below.
Stefano (Qualcomm) comments.
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Noted
8.7 S2-2108725 CR Approval 23.502 CR3279 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on discovering a UAS NF/NEF based on the USS address Lenovo, Motorola Mobility, Rel-17 Noted Pallab (Nokia) indicates that this CR is identical with S2-2108701 and should be merged. Also the CR depends on the discussion in 8700.
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Guanglei (Huawei) proposes to postpone
Tricci (OPPO) proposes to NOTE this CR for the same reason for 8724.
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Noted
8.7 S2-2108723 CR Approval 23.256 CR0041 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on USS subscribing to a PDU session status event Lenovo, Motorola Mobility, Rel-17 Postponed Guanglei (Huawei) ask for clarification.
Shabnam (Ericsson) supports the intent of the CR and provides r01 correcting some editorials and normative language.
Guanglei(Huawei) provides comments.
Dimitris (Lenovo) responds
Guanglei(Huawei) kindly reminds that Stage 3 now supports PDU session status event via N33 interface.
Dimitris (Lenovo) provides clarifications
Guanglei(Huawei) replies
Dimitris (Lenovo) responds and provides r02
Guanglei (Huawei) thinks r02 is still not correct
Dimitris (Lenovo) disagrees with Huawei comment
Guanglei (Huawei) further clarifies
Dimitris (Lenovo) suggests to ask CT3 how the PDN Connectivity Status monitoring event is implemented in stage 3
Guanglei (Huawei) replies to Dimitris(Lenovo)
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Guanglei (Huawei) proposes to Postpone or Note
Dimitris (Lenovo) is ok to postpone, provided a draft LS out in the drafts folder
Guanglei (Huawei) re-proposes to NOTE and objects to send the LS just asking a simple question
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Postponed
8.7 S2-2108910 CR Approval 23.256 CR0045 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on AMF determined re-authentication China Mobile Rel-17 Noted Guanzhou (InterDigital) comments.
Yi (China Mobile) reponds to Guanzhou and provides r01.
Ashok (Samsung) comments whether AMF initiated reauth is valid scenario?
Pallab (Nokia) has the same question as Samsung.
Yi (China Mobile) replies.
Pallab (Nokia) objects to the CR and comments for further clarification
Ashok (Samsung) objects to the CR and all the revisions
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Guanzhou (InterDigital) comments and supports r01
Ashok (Samsung) responds to Yi
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Noted
8.7 S2-2108919 CR Approval 23.256 CR0046 (Rel-17, 'F'): UE behaviour when AMF rejects registration due to missing aerial subscription Lenovo, Motorola Mobility, Rel-17 Noted Ashok (Samsung) proposes to NOTE
Stefano (Qualcomm) fully supports the CR and would like to cosign.
Ashok (Samsung) comments
Dimitris (Lenovo) responds
Ashok (Samsung) responds to Dimitris (Lenovo) and comments this CR is not needed
Tricci (OPPO) asks for clarification on why this CR is category 'F'?
Pallab (Nokia) suggests that the NOTE text needs to be revised based on updates in 8430 (if 8430 is agreed)
Tricci (OPPO) propose to NOTE this CR because it does not provide any added value or solve any issue.
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8.8 - - - System enhancement for Proximity based Services in 5GS (5G_ProSe) - - Docs:=51 -
8.8 - - - UE POLICY PROVISIONING REQUEST - - Docs:=12 -
8.8 S2-2108992 LS In Action LS from RAN WG2: Reply LS on discovery and relay (re)selection RAN WG2 (R2-2111583) Rel-17 Noted Deng Qiang (CATT) asks Tao (VC) to move this reply LS to another sub-topic.
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Deng Qiang (CATT) this reply LS can be NOTED.
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Noted
8.8 S2-2108284 LS In Action LS from CT WG1: LS on UE POLICY PROVISIONING REQUEST message CT WG1 (C1-216298) Rel-17 Responses drafted in S2-2108339, S2-2108453 and S2-2108582. Postponed Deng Qiang (CATT) proposed using this thread to discuss CT1 question first, before making CR revisions.
Hong (Qualcomm) comments.
Changhong (Intel) supports Qiang and Hong's proposal to start from what SA2 specification has.
Xiaoyan Shi (Interdigital) shares same view with Changhong, Qiang and Hong.
Belen (Ericsson) also shares the view that CT1 should follow SA2 design, and that is defined in 23.503, policy framework.
Changhong (Intel) asks Belen a question on Push and Pull mode.
Belen (Ericsson) replies to Intel
Dimitris (Lenovo) supports a solution that is backwards compatible
Susan (Huawei) cannot agree with the new proposal from Belen (Ericsson), and asks questions to Changhong (Intel).
Belen (Ericsson) comments to QC interpretation of the ANDSP support indicator.
Changhong (Intel) replies to Susan and Belen, proposes to use S2-2108453 as baseline for LS Reply to CT1.
Deng Qiang (CATT) comments.
Susan (Huawei) replies asks questions for clarification.
LaeYoung (LGE) replies to Susan (Huawei).
Sherry (Xiaomi) comments.
Hannu (Nokia) supports the proposal to take S2-2108453 as the way forward and replies to Sherry.
Hong (Qualcomm) replies to Susan.
Susan (Huawei) replies to LaeYoung (LGE).
Belen (Ericsson) agrees with Susan (Huawei).
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Changhong (Intel) comments and asks to stop challenging the design of having two separate indication for MM and UE Policy Container.
Susan (Huawei) replies to Sherry (Xiaomi).
Deng Qiang (CATT) provides spec for reference.
Yang (OPPO) comments
Belen (Ericsson) asks to POSPONE this LS given that no agreement on the answer and related CRs has been reached.
Susan (Huawei) replies to Deng Qiang (CATT).
Susan (Huawei) replies to Yang (OPPO).
Sherry (Xiaomi) replies.
Sherry (Xiaomi) replies to Hannu.
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Postponed
8.8 S2-2109373 LS In Action LS response on PC5 DRX for ProSe RAN WG2 (R2-2111433) Rel-17 Postponed Postponed
8.8 S2-2108339 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] Reply LS on UE POLICY PROVISIONING REQUEST message Ericsson Rel-17 Response to S2-2108284. Noted Steve (Huawei) comments on relationship with discussion in S2-2108284, so can't be approved yet.
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Deng Qiang (CATT) this reply LS can be NOTED.
Changhong (Intel) objects to this LS OUT paper since no agreement has been reached yet.
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Noted
8.8 S2-2108453 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] LS Reply to C1-216298 on UE Policy provisioning request Intel Corporation (UK) Ltd Rel-17 Response to S2-2108284. Noted Sherry (Xiaomi) provides r01.
Changhong (Intel) provides r02.
Hannu (Nokia) provides r03 and points out that a revision of the related CR S2-2108452 is also needed to correct the CR number.
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Changhong (Intel) provides r04 with corrected CR number for the attachment.
Belen (Ericsson) objects to this LS reply given that the discussion took place in S2-2108284 and no conclusion was reached on the way forward.
Yang (OPPO) suggests to note or postpone the LS as no agreement is made in this meeting
Belen (Ericsson) asks Tao (VC) the reason to propose r03 and ask to NOTE this LS as is related to the same topic.
Tao (VC) change the status as Noted? For further checking
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Noted
8.8 S2-2108582 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] Reply LS on UE POLICY PROVISIONING REQUEST message OPPO Rel-17 Response to S2-2108284. Noted Steve (Huawei) comments on relationship with discussion in S2-2108284.
Hannu (Nokia) comments that S2-2108582 and S2-2108453 are draft replies to the same LS and proposes to reply based on S2-2108453r03.
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Changhong (Intel) objects to this paper since no agreement has been reached yet.
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Noted
8.8 S2-2108341 CR Approval 23.304 CR0042 (Rel-17, 'F'): ProSE policy provisioning request Ericsson Rel-17 Noted Steve (Huawei) comments on relationship with discussion in S2-2108284.
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Deng Qiang (CATT) this CR not aligned with way-forward proposal discussed in 8284, and thus should be NOTED.
Belen (Ericsson) disagrees that there is a way forward agreed. If this CR is NOTED, then all related CRs to 8284 should also be NOTED
Deng Qiang (CATT) is fine to postponed or noted all the CRs related to the CT1 reply LS.
Changhong (Intel) objects to this paper since no agreement has been reached yet on the LS OUT.
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Noted
8.8 S2-2108342 CR Approval 23.503 CR0668 (Rel-17, 'F'): Removal of the V2X or ProSe policy request at Registration Ericsson Rel-17 Noted Mirko (Huawei) provides r01.
Steve (Huawei) comments on relationship with discussion in S2-2108284.
Hong (Qualcomm) comments on r01.
LaeYoung (LGE) comments on r01.
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Changhong (Intel) Objects to this paper.
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Noted
8.8 S2-2108452 CR Approval 23.304 CR0044 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction for UE Policy Container Intel, Qualcomm Incorporated Rel-17 Confirm Specification Number - CR states 23.502!. Confirm Spec version used - CR states 17.2.1! r00 agreed. Revised to S2-2109139. Hannu (Nokia) proposes that the CR must be revised to correct the CR number and possibly also the title as the CR number for this TS 23.502 CR is not drawn from the CR number range of the target specification (but possibly from the CR number range of TS 23.304?)
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Tao(VC) check the status of this paper
Changhong (Intel) comments.
Changhong (Intel) revised the paper into S2-2109139, the newly allocated CR number is 3314 .
Belen (Ericsson) objects to this CR as is related to S2-2108284 that reached no conclusions
Revised
8.8 S2-2109139 CR Approval 23.502 CR3314 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction for UE Policy Container Intel, Qualcomm Incorporated Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108452r00. WITHDRAWN Withdrawn
8.8 S2-2108579 CR Approval 23.304 CR0052 (Rel-17, 'F'): UE Policy Container with ProSe Policy Provisioning Request OPPO Rel-17 Noted Steve (Huawei) comments on relationship with discussion in S2-2108284.
Hannu (Nokia) proposes to note this CR and proceed as shown in draft LS out S2-2108453r03.
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Belen (Ericsson) supports this CR, there is no agreement to go for draft LS out S2-2108453.
Changhong (Intel) objects to this paper since no agreement has been reached yet on the LS OUT.
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Noted
8.8 S2-2108580 CR Approval 23.503 CR0678 (Rel-17, 'F'): UE Policy Container with V2X and ProSe Policy Provisioning Request OPPO Rel-17 Noted Steve (Huawei) comments on relationship with discussion in S2-2108284.
Hannu (Nokia) proposes to note this CR and proceed as shown in draft LS out S2-2108453r03.
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Changhong (Intel) objects to this paper since no agreement has been reached yet on the LS OUT.
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Noted
8.8 - - - Mobility restriction - - Docs:=3 -
8.8 S2-2108382 CR Approval 23.304 CR0027R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): EN resolve for mobility restriction [vivo, Samsung, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell,] Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107978 from S2#147E. Noted Steve (Huawei) comments on overlap between S2-2108382, S2-2108949 & S2-2108956
Mehrdad (Samsung) suggests to use either S2-2108949 or S2-2108956 as the baseline.
Xiaoyan Shi (Interdigital) proposes to discuss mobility restriction in thread of S2-2108956.
Judy (Ericsson) is OK to have the discussion in 8956 to avoid same discussion in multiple threads.
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Noted
8.8 S2-2108949 CR Approval 23.304 CR0027R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): EN resolve for mobility restriction Samsung Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107978 from S2#147E. Noted Steve (Huawei) comments on overlap between S2-2108382, S2-2108949 & S2-2108956
Xiaoyan Shi (Interdigital) would suggest to merge this CR to S2-2108956.
Mehrdad (Samsung) is OK if we continue discussions in S2-2108956.
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Noted
8.8 S2-2108956 CR Approval 23.304 CR0027R4 (Rel-17, 'F'): EN resolve for mobility restriction Interdigital Inc Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107978 from S2#147E. Confirm CR Revision - CR states 2! Noted Fei (OPPO) comments.
Steve (Huawei) comments on overlap between S2-2108382, S2-2108949 & S2-2108956
Xiaoyan Shi (Interigital) replies to Fei.
Judy (Ericsson) comments
LaeYoung (LGE) provides comment.
Fei (OPPO) responds to Xiaoyan (Interdigital)
Deng Qiang (CATT) provides comment.
Wen (vivo) provides comment.
Jianning (Xiaomi) shares the view from Qiang (CATT)
Xiaoyan Shi (Interdigital) comments
Hong (Qualcomm) comments.
Mehrdad (Samsung) comments
Judy (Ericsson) provides r01 to reflect the proposal in 8382: L2 Relay UE in Non-allowed not performing relay operations, and emergency/priority access from Remote UE via Relay UE in Non-allowed area to be studied in Rel-18.
Xiaoyan Shi (Interdigital) objects r01and provides r02. R01 overthrows agreement in last meeting and Xiaoyan Shi have not identified any technical reason to block NW relay service in Non-allowed area.
Judy (Ericsson) is not sure what agreement that Xiaoyan Shi (Interdigital) refers to considering there was a misunderstanding of revisions last meeting as discussed offline. r01 is just one of the alternatives under discussion.
Fei (OPPO) comments and provides r03.
Wen (vivo) comments and provides r04.
Mehrdad (Samsung) provides r05.
Steve (Huawei) comments on r05, and in general.
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Hong (Qualcomm) replies.
Mehrdad (Samsung) replies.
Xiaoyan Shi (Interdigital) replies.
Hong (Qualcomm) replies to Xiaoyan.
LaeYoung (LGE) accepts only r01 and objects all other versions including r00.
Judy (Ericsson) comments accepts only r01 and objects all other versions including r00.
Mehrdad (Samsung) objects to r01. We can not agree with that.
Fei (OPPO) asks if no revision can be agreed in this meeting, whether the 2107978 is still agreed.
Mehrdad (Samsung) is not clear on OPPO's question
Steve (Huawei) looks like mutual objections to all revisions, so no update this meeting.
Fei (OPPO) thanks for Steve's clarification.
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Noted
8.8 - - - RDAI message - - Docs:=4 -
8.8 S2-2108522 CR Approval 23.304 CR0019R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on Relay Discovery Additional Information message CATT, ZTE, Intel Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107974 from S2#147E. Remove Revision Marks from CR Cover! r08 agreed. Revised to S2-2109160, merging S2-2108488 and S2-2108558 Zhang (Ericsson) asks clarification
Deng Qiang (CATT) replies to Zhang (Ericsson) and provides r01 that merged 8558.
Wen (vivo) comments on r01.
Fei (OPPO) asks questions.
Deng Qiang (CATT) replies to Fei (OPPO) and Wen (vivo).
Wen (vivo) replies to Deng Qiang (CATT)
Zhang (Ericsson) is OK with r01 and co-sign
Zhang (Ericsson) provides comments
Steve (Huawei) comments
Mehrdad (Samsung) comments on original version and r01.
Hong (Qualcomm) replies to Wen.
Wen (vivo) is ok to merge to 8522.
Deng Qiang (CATT) provides r02 based on Mehrdad (Samsung) constructure proposal.
LaeYoung (LGE) provides r03.
Fei (OPPO) provides r04.
Deng Qiang (CATT) replies to LaeYoung (LGE).
LaeYoung (LGE) replies to Deng Qiang (CATT).
Hao Dong (ZTE) provides version r05 with some editorial changes in clause 6.5.1.3.
Steve (Huawei) provides r07
Hao Dong (ZTE) responds to Zhang (Ericsson).
Fei (OPPO) responds to Zhang (Ericsson).
Wen (vivo) comments.
Xiaoyan Shi (Interdigital) provides comments
Deng Qiang (CATT) provides r08.
Mehrdad (Samsung) asks a question for clarification
Deng Qiang (CATT) replies to Mehrdad (Samsung).
Hannu (Nokia) points out that new LS in from RAN2 in S2-2108992 (sent from RAN2 last week) would be related with this.
Fei (OPPO) responds to Mehrdad (Samsung)
Hannu (Nokia) replies to Mehrdad. Can accept either approach as long as SA2 and RAN2 are aligned.
Deng Qiang (CATT) replies to Mehrdad (Samsung) and Hannu (Nokia).
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Zhang (Ericsson) is fine with r08
LaeYoung (LGE) is also fine with r08.
LaeYoung (LGE) responds to Zhang (Ericsson).
Hong (Qualcomm) comments.
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Revised
8.8 S2-2109160 CR Approval 23.304 CR0019R4 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on Relay Discovery Additional Information message CATT, ZTE, Intel, Huawei, HiSilicon, Ericsson, Samsung, vivo, LG Electronics Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108522r08, merging S2-2108488 and S2-2108558. Approved Agreed
8.8 S2-2108558 CR Approval 23.304 CR0019R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on Relay Discovery Additional Information message Based on [CATT, ZTE, Intel], vivo Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107974 from S2#147E. Merged into S2-2109160 Zhang (Ericsson) provides comments and r01
Hao Dong (ZTE) proposes to merge this CR into S2-2108522 since both of them are based on the same agreed CR (S2-2107974) from the last SA2 meeting.
Deng Qiang (CATT) proposes to merge this CR into S2-2108522r01.
Mehrdad (Samsung) proposes to merge this CR S2-2108522.
Xiaoyan Shi (Interdigital) proposes to merge it to S2-2108522.
Wen (vivo) is ok to merge this paper into 8522.
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Merged
8.8 S2-2108488 CR Approval 23.304 CR0045 (Rel-17, 'F'): TAI announcement procedure LG Electronics Rel-17 Merged into S2-2109160 Zhang (Ericsson) propose the merge the paper with S2-2108522
LaeYoung (LGE) responds to Zhang (Ericsson).
Hong (Qualcomm) replies to Laeyoung.
LaeYoung (LGE) responds to Hong (Qualcomm) and is fine to merge this CR to S2-2108522.
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Merged
8.8 - - - UE-to-Network Relay - - Docs:=16 -
8.8 S2-2108324 CR Approval 23.304 CR0032R1 (Rel-17, 'B'): Security procedures for L3 relaying Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Interdigital Inc., LG Electronics Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107566 from S2#147E. Postponed Zhang (Ericsson) provides comments
Fei (OPPO) comments this should be postponed until SA3 has documented the detailed procedure.
Deng Qiang (CATT) proposed this CR postponed.
Steve (Huawei) waiting for SA3 was also my understanding
Hannu (Nokia) comments on behalf of CR proponents and agrees to wait for SA3 guidance.
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Steve (Huawei) thanks Hannu for the clarification, should be postponed.
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Postponed
8.8 S2-2108381 CR Approval 23.304 CR0013R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Removing the EN of policy control for L3 U2N Relay OPPO, Ericsson, LG Electronics Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107325 from S2#147E. Approved Agreed
8.8 S2-2108451 CR Approval 23.304 CR0012R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification for the PC5 QoS parameters and PC5 QoS rule OPPO, Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107990 from S2#147E. Approved Steve (Huawei) asks some questions
Yali (OPPO) replies to Steve
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Agreed
8.8 S2-2108802 CR Approval 23.304 CR0055 (Rel-17, 'F'): Update on Unicast link profile for UE-to-Network Relay Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Approved Fei (OPPO) asks questions.
Hao Dong (ZTE) comments.
Zhang (Ericsson) provides comments
Hao Dong (ZTE) responds to Zhang (Ericsson).
Steve (Huawei) replies to Fei.
Steve (Huawei) comments on explicit reference for direct comms
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Agreed
8.8 S2-2108523 CR Approval 23.304 CR0046 (Rel-17, 'F'): Resolve some ENs CATT Rel-17 Noted Fei (OPPO) comments.
Deng Qiang (CATT) this CR can be NOTED as it is covered by other CRs.
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Noted
8.8 S2-2108801 CR Approval 23.304 CR0054 (Rel-17, 'F'): Updates and alignments based on further RAN WG2 feedback Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 r03 agreed. Revised to S2-2109161, merging S2-2108560 Zhang (Ericsson) provides comments and ask for clarification
Wen (vivo) provides comments
Steve (Huawei) replies
Steve (Huawei) comments
Xiaoyan Shi (Interdigital) have same question with Zhang Fu
Hong (Qualcomm) replies to Steve.
Deng Qiang (CATT) comments.
Fei (OPPO) comments.
Steve (Huawei) provides r01
Hong (Qualcomm) comments.
Hannu (Nokia) comments and provides r02.
Steve (Huawei) provides r03
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Zhang (Ericsson) is OK with r03
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Hannu (Nokia) thanks Steve and supports r03
Revised
8.8 S2-2109161 CR Approval 23.304 CR0054R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Updates and alignments based on further RAN WG2 feedback Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108801r03, merging S2-2108560. Approved Agreed
8.8 S2-2108559 CR Approval 23.304 CR0047 (Rel-17, 'F'): Registration Procedure to enter CM_CONNECTED for L2 relay Vivo Rel-17 Noted Fei (OPPO) commets.
Wen (vivo) replies.
Judy (Ericsson) comments.
Wen (vivo) replies to Judy (Ericsson).
Judy (Ericsson) responds to Wen (vivo)
Deng Qiang (CATT) comments.
Wen (vivo)responds to Judy (Ericsson) and Deng Qiang (CATT)
Fei (OPPO) comments
Wen (vivo)responds to Fei(OPPO)
Hong (Qualcomm) repleis to Wen.
Jianning (Xiaomi) provides view
Wen (vivo) repleis to Hong (Qualcomm).
Hong (Qaulcomm) replies to Wen.
Wen (vivo) replies to Hong (Qaulcomm).
Wen (vivo) further provides r01.
Hannu (Nokia) still can't see the justification for this CR even in r01. Proposes to note the CR.
Wen (vivo) replies to Hannu (Nokia) and don't agree with NOTE .
Hong (Qualcomm) comments.
Wen (vivo) replies to Hong.
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Hong (Qualcomm) replies to Wen.
Wen (vivo) replies to Hong (Qualcomm).
Judy (Ericsson) also propose to NOTE this paper which is based on a misundersanding of the spec.
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Noted
8.8 S2-2108560 CR Approval 23.304 CR0048 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on CM_CONNECTED state for L2 relay Vivo Rel-17 Merged into S2-2109161 Deng Qiang (CATT) propose to be merged with S2-2108801.
Steve (Huawei) Should be NOTED or considered merged to S2-2108801.
Wen (vivo) is ok to merge this paper to S2-2108801.
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Merged
8.8 S2-2108578 CR Approval 23.304 CR0051 (Rel-17, 'F'): PC5 link release and CM state update for L2 U2N relay OPPO Rel-17 r07 agreed. Revised to S2-2109162. LaeYoung (LGE) provides r01.
Wen (vivo) comments.
Fei (OPPO) provides r02.
Wen (vivo) provides r03.
Lars (Sony) asks questions
Fei (OPPO) responds to Lars (Sony).
Steve (Huawei) comments
Wen (vivo) replies to Steve (Huawei)
Hong (Qualcomm) comments.
Steve (Huawei) thanks for the clarifications
Wen (vivo) replies to Hong (Qualcomm).
Fei (OPPO) comments.
Fei (OPPO) responds and provides r04.
Wen (vivo) comments and provides r05.
Fei (OPPO) responds and provides r06.
Steve (Huawei) provides r07
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Revised
8.8 S2-2109162 CR Approval 23.304 CR0051R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): PC5 link release and CM state update for L2 U2N relay OPPO Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108578r07. Approved Agreed
8.8 S2-2108722 CR Approval 23.304 CR0053 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on Parameters Used in UE-to-Network Relay Discovery Message ZTE Rel-17 Noted Fei (OPPO) comments.
Hao Dong (ZTE) responds to Fei (OPPO).
Fei (OPPO) responds to Hao (ZTE)
LaeYoung (LGE) provides comment.
Hao Dong (ZTE) thanks for clarification and confirms the CR could be NOTED.
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Noted
8.8 S2-2108804 CR Approval 23.304 CR0031R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): PDU Session release for L3 U2N Relay on authorisation revocation Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107987 from S2#147E. Noted Judy (Ericsson) comments
Steve (Huawei) replies
Mehrdad replies to Huawei and Ericsson.
Judy (Ericsson) comments the update in 8804 seems not absolutely necessary, and provides r01 as an alternative
Steve (Huawei) is ok with r01.
Hannu (Nokia) provides even simpler r02 and comments.
Steve (Huawei) comments
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Hannu (Nokia) complains about premature revision deadline and shows what was left not done in r01.
Hannu (Nokia) requests to disregard his previous comment on 8804 as document 8951 was targeted. Sorry for confusion when rushing to meet the deadline (and still failed)
Steve (Huawei) wrong CR?
Hannu (Nokia) replies to Steve that the CR is probably right but my one of my two comments with the same words was wrong ??
Judy (Ericsson) assumes this paper can be NOTED based on the discussion, i.e. 7987 agreed in SA2#147E will be kept unchanged.
Steve (Huawei) can be NOTED, thanks for the discussion.
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Noted
8.8 S2-2108807 DISCUSSION Agreement Discussion on Dual PDU session for the IPsec connection to N3IWF. Sony Rel-17 Noted Noted
8.8 S2-2108816 CR Approval 23.304 CR0057 (Rel-17, 'F'): N3IWF connection via Dual PDU sessions Sony Rel-17 r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109163. Yali (OPPO) comments
Lars (Sony) provides r01
Steve (Huawei) comments, let's not add ENs now!
Zhang (Ericsson) provides r02
Lars (Sony) r02 looks good.
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Revised
8.8 S2-2109163 CR Approval 23.304 CR0057R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): N3IWF connection via Dual PDU sessions Sony Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108816r02. Approved Agreed
8.8 - - - Miscellaneous corrections - - Docs:=16 -
8.8 S2-2108414 CR Approval 23.502 CR3232 (Rel-17, 'F'): Update to Nnrf_NFManagement_NFRegister service operation Ericsson Rel-17 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109164. Steve (Huawei) asks questions
Judy (Ericsson) provides r01 and responds to Steve (Huawei)
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Steve (Huawei) is ok with r01.
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Revised
8.8 S2-2109164 CR Approval 23.502 CR3232R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Update to Nnrf_NFManagement_NFRegister service operation Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108414r01. Approved Agreed
8.8 S2-2108489 CR Approval 23.501 CR3378 (Rel-17, 'F'): Fix reference for Naf_ProSe LG Electronics Rel-17 r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109165. Fei (OPPO) comments.
LaeYoung (LGE) provides r01.
Judy (Ericsson) provides r02
Fei (OPPO) is ok with r01 and r02.
LaeYoung (LGE) is fine with r02.
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Revised
8.8 S2-2109165 CR Approval 23.501 CR3378R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Fix reference for Naf_ProSe LG Electronics Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108489r02. Approved Agreed
8.8 S2-2108561 CR Approval 23.304 CR0049 (Rel-17, 'F'): Miscellaneous clarifications and corrections Vivo Rel-17 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109166. Hao Dong (ZTE) provides revision r01.
Wen (vivo) is ok with r01.
Hannu (Nokia) provides r02. E-UTRAN should be kept as it is included for cross-carrier operation.
Wen (vivo) replies to Hannu and comments on r02.
Steve (Huawei) comments on E-UTRAN
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Wen (vivo) proposes r01 should be agreed and can live with r00.
Hao Dong (ZTE) supports r01.
Steve (Huawei) supports r01.
Fei (OPPO) supports r01 as well.
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Hannu (Nokia) asks for technical explanation why r02 is not correct?
Revised
8.8 S2-2109166 CR Approval 23.304 CR0049R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Miscellaneous clarifications and corrections Vivo Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108561r01. Approved Agreed
8.8 S2-2108577 CR Approval 23.304 CR0050 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on the ID for Group discovery OPPO Rel-17 r03 agreed. Revised to S2-2109330. Zhang (Ericsson) provides comments and r01 and co-sign the paper
Fei (OPPO) is ok with r01.
Hao Dong (ZTE) comments.
Fei (OPPO) responds to Hao (ZTE) and provides r02.
Hao Dong (ZTE) thanks for the revision and is fine with r02.
Fei (OPPO) responds to Zhang (Ericsson).
Zhang (Ericsson) provides r03
Hao Dong (ZTE) comments on r03.
Steve (Huawei) asks for clarification on optional.
Fei (OPPO) responds to Steve (Huawei)
Steve (Huawei) thanks, quick follow up.
Steve (Huawei) thanks for the clarification.
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Changhong (Intel) comments on the 'Reason for Change'.
Fei (OPPO) responds to request from Changhong (Intel)
Changhong (Intel) asks to keep it open for CC#2. I am OK with Fei proposed text for the Reason for Change and ask Fei to provide a revision.
Fei (OPPO) provides r03+ version in the drafts folder to add one sentence in the reason for change.
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Revised
8.8 S2-2109330 CR Approval 23.304 CR0050R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on the ID for Group discovery OPPO, Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108577r03. Approved Agreed
8.8 S2-2108985 CR Approval 23.304 CR0059 (Rel-17, 'F'): User Info ID clarifications Philips International B.V, Ericsson, Interdigital Inc. Rel-17 r03 agreed. Revised to S2-2109167. Steve (Huawei) comments
Hao Dong (ZTE) comments.
Walter Dees (Philips) responds to the comments from Huawei and ZTE
Hong (Qualcomm) comments.
Walter (Philips) provides comments and requests clarification.
Fei (OPPO) comments.
Xiaoyan Shi (Interdigital) provides r01.
Changhong (Intel) provides r02.
Walter Dees (Philips) prefers r00 or r01
Walter Dees (Philips) provides revision r03.
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Changhong (Intel) is OK with r03.
Steve (Huawei) supports r02, stage 3 in general is fine. R03 is too specific.
Zhang (Ericsson) is OK with r00, 01, 03
Steve (Huawei) comments.
Steve (Huawei) clarifies can live with other versions, but prefers r02
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Revised
8.8 S2-2109167 CR Approval 23.304 CR0059R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): User Info ID clarifications Philips International B.V, Ericsson, Interdigital Inc. Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108985r03. Approved Agreed
8.8 S2-2108803 CR Approval 23.304 CR0056 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on subscription information to 5G ProSe Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109168. Judy (Ericsson) provide r01
Guanglei (Huawei) replies to Judy(Ericsson)
Mehrdad (Samsung) also agrees with r01 from Ericsson.
Guanglei(Huawei) replies to Mehrdad(Samsung).
Hannu (Nokia) supports r01 as the initial version is not correct.
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Guanglei (Huawei) is fine with r01
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Revised
8.8 S2-2109168 CR Approval 23.304 CR0056R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on subscription information to 5G ProSe Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108803r01. Approved Agreed
8.8 S2-2108948 CR Approval 23.304 CR0058 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification about path selection policy Xiaomi Rel-17 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109169. Zhang (Ericsson) provides comments
Steve (Huawei) comments
Mehrdad (Samsung) provides r01 and co-sources r01
Hong (Qualcomm) comments.
Changhong (Intel) has concern with r00, but can live with r01.
Sherry (Xiaomi) comments.
Fei (OPPO) comments.
Mehrdad (Samsung) replies to Huawei.
Hong (Qualcomm) replies to Steve.
Sherry (Xiaomi) replies
Steve (Huawei) thanks everyone.
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Zhang (Ericsson) is OK with r01
Steve (Huawei) is ok with r01.
Mehrdad (Samsung) supports r01. r01 is OK with us but objects to the original version.
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Revised
8.8 S2-2109169 CR Approval 23.304 CR0058R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification about path selection policy Xiaomi, Samsung Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108948r01. Approved Agreed
8.8 S2-2108951 CR Approval 23.304 CR0038R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Update to Groupcast mode 5G ProSe Direct Communication Samsung, LG Electronics, Interdigital Inc. Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107713 from S2#147E. r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109170. Zhang (Ericsson) provides comments
Fei (OPPO) comments.
Mehrdad (Samsung) provides r01.
Zhang (Ericsson) is OK with r01
Fei (OPPO) is fine with r01.
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Hannu (Nokia) complains about premature revision deadline and shows what was left not done in r01.
Mehrdad (Samsung) suggest move forward with r01 and do any other changes in the next meeting.
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Revised
8.8 S2-2109170 CR Approval 23.304 CR0038R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Update to Groupcast mode 5G ProSe Direct Communication Samsung, LG Electronics, Interdigital Inc. Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108951r01. Approved Agreed
8.9 - - - Architectural enhancements for 5G multicast-broadcast services (5MBS) - - Docs:=90 -
8.9 - - - LSs in and related documents - - Docs:=9 -
8.9 S2-2108278 LS In Action LS from CT WG1: LS on maximum number of MBS sessions that can be associated to a PDU session CT WG1 (C1-216247) Rel-17 Response drafted in S2-2108404. Final response in S2-2109171 Replied to
8.9 S2-2108934 CR Approval 23.247 CR0070 (Rel-17, 'F'): Maximum of 4 Multicast sessions in one associated PDU session Qualcomm Incorporated Rel-17 Postponed Miguel (Qualcomm) proposes as author to postpone this CR in favor of outgoing LS, as per offline discussion.
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Postponed
8.9 S2-2108404 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] Reply LS on maximum number of MBS sessions that can be associated to a PDU session Ericsson Rel-17 Response to S2-2108278. r06 agreed. Revised to S2-2109171. Robbie (Ericsson) provides r01 based on offline CC discussion.
Thomas (Nokia) provides r02.
Robbie (Ericsson) provides r03.
Xiaoyan (CATT) provides r04.
Robbie asks Xiaoyan (CATT).
Xiaoyan (CATT) provides r05.
Robbie (Ericsson) provides r06.
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Revised
8.9 S2-2109171 LS OUT Approval Reply LS on maximum number of MBS sessions that can be associated to a PDU session SA WG2 Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108404r06. Approved Approved
8.9 S2-2108991 LS In Action LS from RAN WG2: Further reply on MBS broadcast service continuity RAN WG2 (R2-2111511) Rel-17 Noted Thomas (Nokia) suggest to Note this LS because the issue is addressed in outgoing LS S2-2108670
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Noted
8.9 S2-2109002 LS In Action LS from RAN WG3: Reply LS on MBS broadcast service continuity and MBS session identification RAN WG3 (R3-215977) Rel-17 Postponed Postponed
8.9 S2-2109009 LS In Action LS from RAN WG3: LS on Feedback on data forwarding solutions for MBS RAN WG3 (R3-216195) Rel-17 Response drafted in S2-2109013. Postponed Postponed
8.9 S2-2109013 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] Reply LS on Feedback on data forwarding solutions for MBS Nokia Rel-17 Created at CC#1. Response to S2-2109009. CC#2: r04 agreed. Revised to S2-2109351. Thomas (Nokia) provides original version (r00)
Pau (Ericsson) objects to r00.
Thomas(Nokia) replies to Paul.
Provides r01
Paul (Ericsson) provides r02 and objects to r01.
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LiMeng (Huawei) provides r03 for this LS.
Paul (Ericsson) provides r04.
Thomas(Nokia) comments that timely r02 or late r03 are acceptable, but not late r04.
Paul (Ericsson) can only accept r04.
Thomas(Nokia) asks Paul if he rejects his own revision r02?
Paul (Ericsson) replies Thomas (Nokia), yes, object to r02.
Thomas(Nokia) can live with r04.
Tao(VC) Let's still check r02 since r04 provided after revision and r02 is provided by Paul
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Thomas(Nokia) suggests bringing this to CC#2 as late r04 (but this is an LS) seems finally agreeable
LiMeng (Huawei) agrees Thomas to bring this to CC#2.
Revised
8.9 S2-2109351 LS OUT Approval Reply LS on Feedback on data forwarding solutions for MBS SA WG2 Rel-17 CC#2: Revision of S2-2109013r04. Approved Approved
8.9 - - - User plane management - - Docs:=6 -
8.9 S2-2108397 CR Approval 23.247 CR0009R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Dynamic Policy Control for 5GC Individual MBS Traffic Delivery Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of (unhandled) S2-2107207 from S2#147E. Merged into S2-2109173 Judy (Ericsson) propose to merge this paper (i.e. 8397) to 8881.
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Merged
8.9 S2-2108398 CR Approval 23.501 CR3055R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): MBS Packet detection and forwarding Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of (unhandled) S2-2107206 from S2#147E. r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109172, merging S2-2108880 LiMeng (Huawei) suggests to merge this document into S2-2108880.
Judy (Ericsson) propose to use this paper (i.e. 8398) as base and merge 8880 and comments
Fenqin (Huawei) comments
Judy (Ericsson) provides r01
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8.9 S2-2109172 CR Approval 23.501 CR3055R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): MBS Packet detection and forwarding Ericsson, ZTE Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108398r01, merging S2-2108880. Approved Agreed
8.9 S2-2108880 CR Approval 23.501 CR3450 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on PDR and FAR in A-UPF for MBS data traffic in individual delivery ZTE Rel-17 Confirm Spec version used - CR states <17.2.0>! Merged into S2-2109172 Judy (Ericsson) propose to merge this paper (i.e. 8880) to 8398 and comment
Zhendong (ZTE): is fine to merge 8880 to 8398
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Merged
8.9 S2-2108881 CR Approval 23.247 CR0068 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on PDR and FAR in A-UPF for MBS data traffic in individual delivery ZTE Rel-17 r04 agreed. Revised to S2-2109173, merging S2-2108397 LiMeng (Huawei) suggests to merge this document into S2-2108397.
Judy (Ericsson) propose to use this paper (i.e. 8881) as base and merge 8397 and comments
LiMeng (Huawei) is fine with Judy's proposal on S2-2108397, S2-2108398, S2-2108880 and S2-2108881.
Judy (Ericsson) provide r01
Fenqin (Huawei) provide r02
Judy (Ericsson) is fine with r02
Thomas (Nokia) provides r03
Mirko (Huawei) provides r04.
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Judy (Ericsson) thanks Mirko (Huawei) for further improvement, I'm fine with r04.
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Revised
8.9 S2-2109173 CR Approval 23.247 CR0068R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on PDR and FAR in A-UPF for MBS data traffic in individual delivery ZTE, Ericsson, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai-Bell Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108881r04, merging S2-2108397. Approved Agreed
8.9 - - - General - - Docs:=13 -
8.9 S2-2108403 CR Approval 23.247 CR0026R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Micellaneous corrections Huawei, HiSilicon, Ericsson, [ZTE,] Tencent, CATT [, vivo], Samsung Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107997 from S2#147E. r03 agreed. Revised to S2-2109174, merging S2-2108526 Youngkyo(Samsung) provides a revision r01.
Chen Ying(TD Tech) provides a revision r02.
Thomas(Nokia) provides r03.
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8.9 S2-2109174 CR Approval 23.247 CR0026R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): Micellaneous corrections Huawei, HiSilicon, Ericsson, ZTE, Tencent, CATT , vivo, Samsung, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai-Bell, TD-Tech Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108403r03, merging S2-2108526. Approved Agreed
8.9 S2-2108972 CR Approval 23.247 CR0015R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarifications on functional entities [CATT, Ericsson], Nokia, Nokia Shanghai-Bell Rel-17 Revision of (Endorsed) S2-2108001 from S2#147E. r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109175. Judy (Ericsson) provide r01
Thomas (Nokia) accepts changes in r01 and provides r02 to add Ericsson back as source
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8.9 S2-2109175 CR Approval 23.247 CR0015R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarifications on functional entities CATT, Ericsson, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai-Bell Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108972r02. Approved Agreed
8.9 S2-2108974 CR Approval 23.247 CR0019R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): NRF service operation for broadcast service [Samsung], Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2108022 from S2#147E. Approved Judy (Ericsson) comments this paper depends on the MBS SAI discussion what type of location will be used for AMF discovery for broadcast MBS session.
Zhendong (ZTE): propsoe to complete the SAI first. then consider this
LiMeng (Huawei) wonders the reason why this document is related to SAI.
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Thomas(Nokia) comments that if we do not agree the update but keep the version from the last meeting, it would only fit if we decide to use SAI for routing
Judy (Ericsson) responds that proposed removal of cell id is correct thus I'm fine with r00.
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Agreed
8.9 S2-2108651 CR Approval 23.247 CR0002R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): MBS Session Management vs Configuration Based on (Ericsson, vivo), vivo Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107998 from S2#147E. r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109176. LiMeng (Huawei) suggests to keep the 'NULL' state we currently defined.
Zhenhua (vivo) responds to LiMeng (Huawei).
Judy (Ericsson) comments
Zhendong (ZTE): similar view with limeng
Zhenhua (vivo) provides r01
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Revised
8.9 S2-2109176 CR Approval 23.247 CR0002R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): MBS Session Management vs Configuration Ericsson, vivo Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108651r01. Approved Agreed
8.9 S2-2108653 CR Approval 23.247 CR0038R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Replacement reference architecture figures Based on (BBC, Ericsson), vivo Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2108000 from S2#147E. r03 agreed. Revised to S2-2109177. LiMeng (Huawei) asks whether we need to clarify the interfaces in this document as well.
Judy (Ericsson) does not see the need of this paper, cross-line with little half-circle is sufficiently clear.
Zhenhua (vivo) answers to Judy (Ericsson) that it is only editorial for good looking without introducing any bad thing.
LiMeng (Huawei) provides r01.
Thomas (Nokia) provides r02 and asks to ignore it
Judy (Ericsson) comment that the 'good-looking' (in Zhenhua's eye) figure may cause confusion that MBSF is between NEF and AF, and provides r03 on top of r01.
LiMeng (Huawei) thanks Judy for the revison, and asks a question for clarification.
Judy (Ericsson) responds to LiMeng (Huawei)
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Judy (Ericsson) accepts only r03, objects to other revisions including r00 to avoid potential confusion on the relationships between NFs in the architecture
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Revised
8.9 S2-2109177 CR Approval 23.247 CR0038R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): Replacement reference architecture figures [BBC], Ericsson, vivo Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108653r03. Approved Agreed
8.9 S2-2108656 CR Approval 23.247 CR0061 (Rel-17, 'D'): Editorial modification on name of Session Update Vivo Mobile Communications Co. LTD Rel-17 Noted Judy (Ericsson) comments there is misunderstanding of MBS Session update procedure, and the update is not editorial at all as the CR Cat indicates
Zhenhua (vivo) replies to Judy (Ericsson)
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Judy (Ericsson) propse to NOTE this paper and clarify if needed next meeting using a proper CR Cat
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Noted
8.9 S2-2108672 CR Approval 23.247 CR0066 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on Annex A for transport mode Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109178. Robbie (Ericsson) provides r01.
Thomas (Nokia) provides r02.
Robbie (Ericsson) is fine with r02.
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Revised
8.9 S2-2109178 CR Approval 23.247 CR0066R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on Annex A for transport mode Huawei, HiSilicon, Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108672r02. Approved Agreed
8.9 S2-2109014 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] LS on Interworking with eMBMS for Transport Only Mode Ericsson Rel-17 Created at CC#1. Noted Robbie (Ericsson) provides r00.
LiMeng (Huawei) comments
Robbie (Ericsson) responds to LiMeng (Huawei)
LiMeng (Huawei) provides r01.
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Thomas(Nokia) raises concerns against r01 and questions need for the LS
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Noted
8.9 - - - Multicast Session Management - - Docs:=18 -
8.9 S2-2108402 CR Approval 23.247 CR0029R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Updates on cases that SMF rejects UE join request [Huawei, HiSilicon,] Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2108007 from S2#147E. Merged into S2-2109179 Youngkyo(Samsung) proposes to merge this CR into S2-2108500.
Judy (Ericsson) agrees to Youngkyo(Samsung)'s merging proposal (8402->8500)
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Merged
8.9 S2-2108500 CR Approval 23.247 CR0029R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): Updates on cases that SMF rejects UE join request Samsung,Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2108007 from S2#147E. r06 agreed. Revised to S2-2109179, merging S2-2108402 Judy (Ericsson) provides r01 merging 8402 into this paper (i.e. 8500)
Youngkyo(Samsung) provides r02
LiMeng (Huawei) provides r03.
Judy (Ericsson) is fine with r03
Youngkyo(Samsung) is fine with r03 also
Thomas (Nokia) provides r04.
Xiaoyan (CATT) provides r05.
LiMeng (Huawei) provides r06.
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Revised
8.9 S2-2109179 CR Approval 23.247 CR0029R4 (Rel-17, 'F'): Updates on cases that SMF rejects UE join request Huawei, HiSilicon, Samsung, Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108500r06, merging S2-2108402. Approved Agreed
8.9 S2-2108879 CR Approval 23.247 CR0067 (Rel-17, 'F'): Fixing the EN and Nmbsmf_MBSSession service operation parameters. ZTE, Ericsson Rel-17 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109180. Thomas (Nokia) provides r01
Judy (Ericsson) is fine with r01 and corrects the doc link
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8.9 S2-2109180 CR Approval 23.247 CR0067R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Fixing the EN and Nmbsmf_MBSSession service operation parameters. ZTE, Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108879r01. Approved Agreed
8.9 S2-2108666 CR Approval 23.247 CR0063 (Rel-17, 'F'): On the issue of user plane activation Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Noted Paul (Ericsson) provides comments and objects to this CR in all revisions.
Thomas (Nokia) provides r01
Wonders whether Paul has a crystal ball to reject future revisions ??
No crystal ball needed ??, Paul (Ericsson) objects to r01. The acknowledged RAN resource impacts issue is not being addressed and thus the EN can't be removed.
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Paul (Ericsson) objects to this CR in r00. The acknowledged RAN resource impacts issue is not being addressed and thus the EN can't be removed.
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Noted
8.9 S2-2108401 CR Approval 23.247 CR0014R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Multicast session leave and session release CATT, [ZTE, Huawei, HiSilicon,] Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2108005 from S2#147E. r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109181. Zhendong (ZTE): provides comments
Judy (Ericsson) provides r01
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8.9 S2-2109181 CR Approval 23.247 CR0014R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): Multicast session leave and session release CATT, ZTE, Huawei, HiSilicon, Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108401r01. Approved Agreed
8.9 S2-2108504 CR Approval 23.247 CR0055 (Rel-17, 'F'): Minimize multicast service interruption caused by unintended PDU session release Samsung Rel-17 r09 agreed. Revised to S2-2109182. LaeYoung (LGE) proposes to NOTE this CR because didn't see any value compared to impacts on UE, NG-RAN and CN.
Youngkyo(Samsung) replies to LaeYoung (LGE).
Judy (Ericsson) comments
LaeYoung (LGE) replies to Youngkyo (Samsung).
Youngkyo (Samsung) provides a revision r01.
LaeYoung (LGE) provides r02.
Youngkyo (Samsung) provides comments on r02.
LaeYoung (LGE) answers to Youngkyo (Samsung).
Judy (Ericsson) provide r03
LaeYoung (LGE) is fine with r03.
Youngkyo (Samsung) suggests another wording.
LaeYoung (LGE) comments.
Zhenhua (vivo) provides r04.
Zhendong (ZTE): provides r05
Youngkyo(Samsung) provides r06.
Thomas(Nokia) provides r07.
Fenqin (Huawei) provides r08.
LaeYoung (LGE) asks a Q for clarification on r07/r08 about 'the UE can use an existing PDU Session' part.
Xiaoyan (CATT) provides r09.
Thomas (Nokia) is fine with r09 and answers questions of LaeYoung
LaeYoung (LGE) thanks to Thomas (Nokia) for his answer.
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Youngkyo(Samsung) is okay with r09.
LaeYoung (LGE) is fine with r09.
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Revised
8.9 S2-2109182 CR Approval 23.247 CR0055R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Minimize multicast service interruption caused by unintended PDU session release Samsung Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108504r09. Approved Agreed
8.9 S2-2108507 CR Approval 23.247 CR0056 (Rel-17, 'F'): Paging strategy handling for multicast MBS session Samsung Rel-17 Noted Judy (Ericsson) comments
Youngkyo(Samsung) replies.
Zhendong (ZTE): provides comments
Thomas (Nokia) shares the concern of Zhendong
Fenqin (Huawei) comments
Youngkyo(Samsung) replies and provide a revision r01.
Fenqin (Huawei) responds
Fenqin (Huawei) replies
Judy (Ericsson) provide r02 including only the group paging in paging strategy handling. Just to remind, all new text should have track changes.
Youngkyo(Samsung) provides r03.
Judy (Ericsson) provides r04 removing the note on AMF delaying the individual paging
Fenqin (Huawei) provide r05
Youngkyo(Samsung) provide r06.
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Judy (Ericsson) accepts r02, r04, r05, objects to other revisions including r00 and responds to Youngkyo(Samsung)
Youngkyo(Samsung) replies and accept r03 and r06 and objects the other revision.
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Noted
8.9 S2-2108612 CR Approval 23.247 CR0022R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Leftover issue for MBS session activation and deactivation Based on [Huawei, HiSilicon, vivo], CATT Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2108011 from S2#147E. r06 agreed. Revised to S2-2109183, merging S2-2108654 Zhenhua (vivo) provides r01 to merge 8654.
Judy (Ericsson) ask question
Zhendong (ZTE): provides r02
Thomas (Nokia): provides r03
Thomas (Nokia): provides r04,
Asks to disregard r03
Fenqin (Huawei): provides r05
Zhenhua (vivo) provides r06
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Judy (Ericsson) responds to Zhenhua (vivo) and ask question
Zhenhua (vivo) responds to Judy (Ericsson)
Judy (Ericsson) ask further question
Fenqin (Huawei) comments.
Judy (Ericsson) comments
Fenqin (Huawei) responds.
Zhenhua (vivo) replies to Judy (Ericsson)
Thomas(Nokia) replies to Judy
Judy (Ericsson) responds to Thomas(Nokia)
Thomas(Nokia) can accept r04, r05 and r06, objects to earlier revisions including r00
Thomas(Nokia) replies to Judy (Ericsson)
Xiaoyan (CATT) sugguest to agree r04 or r00.
Fenqin (Huawei) only accept r05 or r06.
Tao(VC) we still check r06 to agreeable or not then
Zhendong (ZTE): provides response
Xiaoyan (CATT) can accept r05 or r06.
Judy (Ericsson) responds to Fenqin (Huawei) that NOTE 1 allows both options thus the procedure should clarify both, but can live with r04-r06 to progress
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Revised
8.9 S2-2109183 CR Approval 23.247 CR0022R4 (Rel-17, 'F'): Leftover issue for MBS session activation and deactivation Huawei, HiSilicon, vivo, CATT Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108612r06, merging S2-2108654. Approved Agreed
8.9 S2-2108654 CR Approval 23.247 CR0022R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): Leftover issue for MBS session activation and deactivation Based on (Huawei, HiSilicon), vivo Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2108011 from S2#147E. Merged into S2-2109183 Fenqin (Huawei) suggest to merget this paper into 8612
Zhenhua (vivo) agrees to merge into 8612
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Merged
8.9 S2-2108657 CR Approval 23.247 CR0062 (Rel-17, 'F'): Editorial modification on activation procedure Vivo Mobile Communications Co. LTD Rel-17 r03 agreed. Revised to S2-2109184. Judy (Ericsson) provide r01 taking out the part overlapping with 8935 (on list of UE to RAN) and remove 'editorial' from the title which is contradictory with Cat F.
Thomas (Nokia) comments against this CR
Zhenhua (vivo) asks Thomas (Nokia) to reconsider r01
Zhendong (ZTE): provides r02
Thomas (Nokia): provides r03
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Judy (Ericsson) support Thomas (Nokia) on the removal of 'per UE' in r03.
Zhendong (ZTE): is fine with r03
Zhendong (ZTE): clarify
Judy (Ericsson) responds to Zhendong (ZTE)
Zhendong (ZTE): provides the response.
Thomas (Nokia) is fine with r03, objects against r00 and r02
Fenqin (Huawei) we are also fine with r03
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Revised
8.9 S2-2109184 CR Approval 23.247 CR0062R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Modification on activation procedure Vivo Mobile Communications Co. LTD, Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108657r03. Approved Agreed
8.9 S2-2108935 CR Approval 23.247 CR0047R1 (Rel-17, 'C'): Alignment with RAN WG2 for Multicast paging in service activation Qualcomm Incorporated Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107752 from S2#147E. Postponed Robbie (Ericsson) proposes to postpone this CR.
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Postponed
8.9 S2-2108988 CR Approval 23.247 CR0012R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Multicast session join and session establishment [CATT, Qualcomm, Huawei, HiSilicon, ZTE, vivo], Nokia, Nokia Shanghai-Bell Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2108006 from S2#147E. Noted Zhenhua (vivo) provides r01
Youngkyo(Samsung) provides r02.
Judy (Ericsson) provides r03 to remove the indication from SMF to RAN as the MBS session related info (including status) is already provided by MB-SMF.
Xiaoyan (CATT) provides r04.
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Youngkyo(Samsung) is okay with r04 and happy to cosign.
Thomas(Nokia) objects against r03 and r04
Judy (Ericsson) objects to r00, r01, r02, accept r03 & r04
Thomas(Nokia) replies to Judy
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Noted
8.9 - - - Local MBS - - Docs:=9 -
8.9 S2-2108399 CR Approval 23.247 CR0010R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Local MBS service and Location dependent MBS service Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of (unhandled) S2-2107208 from S2#147E. r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109185. Zhenhua (vivo) ask Q
Judy (Ericsson) responds to Zhenhua (vivo)
Thomas(Nokia) suggests to note this CR and check is some related enhancements are required in S2-2108680
Judy (Ericsson) proposes r01: keeping the update in 3.1, 6.2.4 & 6.2.5 in this paper and merge the rest to 8680 to avoid overlapping, and responds to Thomas(Nokia) that 2 out of 3 comments are not valid and the remaining 1 can be discussed.
Thomas (Nokia) proposes r02
Judy (Ericsson) thanks Thomas (Nokia) for the revision and is fine with r02
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Revised
8.9 S2-2109185 CR Approval 23.247 CR0010R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Local MBS service and Location dependent MBS service Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108399r02. Approved Agreed
8.9 S2-2108490 CR Approval 23.247 CR0054 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on local multicast LG Electronics Rel-17 Approved Agreed
8.9 S2-2108652 CR Approval 23.247 CR0006R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Multicast MBS Session: resolving ENs and cleanup Based on (Ericsson, CATT, vivo, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai-Bell, ZTE), vivo Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2108002 from S2#147E. Noted Thomas (Nokia) raises concerns against this CR update. Suggest noting it
Zhenhua (vivo) replies to Thomas (Nokia) and ask Thomas to reconsider the position.
Thomas (Nokia) replies to Zhenhua.
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Noted
8.9 S2-2108679 DISCUSSION Agreement Mobility in local MBS service. Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Noted Noted
8.9 S2-2108680 CR Approval 23.247 CR0021R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification of the local MBS service Huawei, HiSilicon, [LG Electronics, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai-Bell, Samsung, ZTE,vivo] Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2108014 from S2#147E. CC#2: r12 + changes agreed. Revised to S2-2109343, merging S2-2108977 Fenqin (Huawei) provides r01 with an attempt to merge suggestion from 8977r01
Zhenhua (vivo) ask why 7.2.4.X is removed
Thomas (Nokia) comments that new version is incomplete and split into two versions not possible
suggest to focus the discussion in the 8977 thread
Fenqin (Huawei) provides r02
Thomas Nokia provides r03
Agrees to focus discussion on this thread and regard 8977 as merged.
Fenqin (Huawei) provides r04 and suggest to take this as basic for Local MBS discussion
Thomas (Nokia) provides r05
Fenqin (Huawei) provides r06
Judy (Ericsson) provide r07 based on r05
Fenqin (Huawei) provide r08
Judy (Ericsson) provide r09
Thomas (Nokia) objects against r07
Thomas (Nokia) objects against r08
Fenqin (Huawei) provides r10
Judy (Ericsson) responds to Thomas (Nokia)
Thomas(Nokia) provides r11
Thomas(Nokia) asks Judy to clarify her position regarding autonomous switching at RAN node
Judy (Ericsson) responds to Thomas(Nokia) that we do support the intra-RAN mobility but does not see the need to introduce new terms 'autonomous switching' and 'combined service area'.
Fenqin(Huawei) provides r12
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Thomas(Nokia) asks Judy for more clarifications.
Nokia objects against r00, r01, r02, r04, r07, r08 and r09
Judy (Ericsson) accepts r07, r09, cannot accept r11 as is and request to remove 'combined service area' and 'autonomous' (see below), objects to other revisions and responds to Thomas(Nokia)
Fenqin (Huawei) provides r13, which is based on R12 + change suggested by Judy(Ericsson)
Judy (Ericsson) responds to Fenqin (Huawei)
Fenqin (Huawei) provides r14 and suggest bring this to CC#2.
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8.9 S2-2109343 CR Approval 23.247 CR0021R4 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification of the local MBS service Huawei, HiSilicon, LG Electronics, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai-Bell,Samsung, ZTE,vivo Rel-17 CC#2: Revision of S2-2108680r12 + changes, merging S2-2108977. Approved Agreed
8.9 S2-2108975 DISCUSSION Approval Location based services Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Noted Noted
8.9 S2-2108977 CR Approval 23.247 CR0021R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification of the local MBS service [Huawei, HiSilicon, LG Electronics,] Nokia, Nokia Shanghai-Bell, [Samsung, ZTE, vivo] Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2108014 from S2#147E. Merged into S2-2109343 Thomas (Nokia) provides r01 with an attempt to merge 8680
Fenqin (Huawei) comments and suggest this update focus on the three call flow
Thomas (Nokia) provides r02 with more changes discussed with Fenqin
Thomas(Nokia) agrees to merge this contribution into 8680
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8.9 - - - MBS PCC - - Docs:=8 -
8.9 S2-2108396 CR Approval 23.247 CR0004R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Policy Control for MBS Session Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of (Noted) S2-2107193 from S2#147E. Noted Thomas (Nokia) object against this CR
Zhendong (ZTE): similar view with thomas
Judy (Ericsson) would like to remind Zhendong (ZTE) and Thomas (Nokia) that, in addition to the unnecessary complexity on the AF and 5GC NFs without any clear benefit (see more in 8407), the current MBS PCC solution does not work for multiple MBS QoS Flows, thus request to reconsider their position.
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8.9 S2-2108405 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] LS on AF/MBSF handling MBS Session when dynamic PCC is deployed Ericsson Rel-17 Noted Thomas (Nokia) objects against this LS
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Noted
8.9 S2-2108407 DISCUSSION Agreement Policy Control for MBS Session . Ericsson Rel-17 Noted Noted
8.9 S2-2108882 CR Approval 23.247 CR0039R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Calrification on the initial MBS session configuration and update ZTE Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107739 from S2#147E. Noted Judy (Ericsson) comments that the EN in 7.1.1.3 is removed without providing a working solution.
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Judy (Ericsson) objecst to this paper as commented previously
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8.9 S2-2108883 CR Approval 23.247 CR0040R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Update to the Removal of MBS session configuration with PCC and related service operation. ZTE Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107740 from S2#147E. Confirm CR Revision - CR states 0! Noted Judy (Ericsson) comments this paper is related to general MBS PCC discussion
Zhendong (ZTE): clarify this CR is not related to general PCC.
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Judy (Ericsson) objects to this paper as the proposed update is based on a PCC solution that does not work for multiple MBS QoS Flows.
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8.9 S2-2108983 CR Approval 23.247 CR0050R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): PCC related MBS corrections Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107780 from S2#147E. r03 agreed. Revised to S2-2109186. Judy (Ericsson) comments that the EN is removed without providing a working solution. More comments below
Thomas (Nokia) replies to Judy and provides r01
Judy (Ericsson) provide r02 and responds
Mirko (Huawei) provide r03.
Thomas (Nokia) provides r04.
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Judy (Ericsson) accepts r02&r03, object to other revisions including r00.
Thomas(Nokia) can accept r03.
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8.9 S2-2109186 CR Approval 23.247 CR0050R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): PCC related MBS corrections Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108983r03. Approved Agreed
8.9 S2-2108600 CR Approval 23.247 CR0059 (Rel-17, 'F'): MBS session update related procedures CATT Rel-17 Noted Judy (Ericsson) does not see the justification why MBS Session Update with service area update should go via PCF
Xiaoyan (Xiaoyan) provides r01.
Xiaoyan (CATT) provides r01.
Judy (Ericsson) comments there is still no justification provided, and proposed update does not resolve the issue of the current MBS PCC solution.
Fenqin (Huawei) also suggest not to touch the update with PCC.
Xiaoyan (CATT) provides r02.
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Judy (Ericsson) objects to this paper (all revisions including r00) which does not solve the issue in a systematic way but bring new problem
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Noted
8.9 - - - MBS SAI - - Docs:=10 -
8.9 S2-2108394 CR Approval 23.247 CR0007R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Introducing MBS SAI and updating MBS service area Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of (unhandled) S2-2107197 from S2#147E. Postponed Thomas (Nokia) raises concerns against this CR
Robbie (Ericsson) responds to Thomas (Nokia)
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Robbie (Ericsson) proposes to postpone this CR which is related with MBS SAI discussion
LiMeng (Huawei) agrees to postpone this CR.
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Postponed
8.9 S2-2108395 CR Approval 23.502 CR3139R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Introducing MBS SAI and updating MBS service area Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of (unhandled) S2-2107199 from S2#147E. Postponed Thomas (Nokia) comments that this CR needs to be postponed
LiMeng (Huawei) agrees that this CR needs to be postponed, sorry for not providing a timely comment.
Robbie (Ericsson) agrees with LiMeng (Huawei) and Thomas (Nokia) to postpone this CR.
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8.9 S2-2108406 DISCUSSION Agreement MBS SAI Discussion. Ericsson Rel-17 Noted Robbie (Ericsson) proposes to use this paper for MBS SAI discussion to avoid the same discussion in multiple threads and asks company's view on the options discussed in offline CC.
Zhendong (ZTE): provides feedback
LiMeng (Huawei) suggests a way forward regarding the SAI.
Robbie (Ericsson) is supportive for the suggestion from LiMeng (Huawei).
Thomas (Nokia): provides feedback
Thomas(Nokia) replies to the proposals of Limeng
LiMeng (Huawei) replies to Thomas.
Robbie (Ericsson) replies to Thomas (Nokia)
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8.9 S2-2108668 CR Approval 23.247 CR0065 (Rel-17, 'F'): On the support of SAI in Rel-17 MBS Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Postponed Robbie (Ericsson) raises concerns against this CR
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Robbie (Ericsson) proposes to postpone this CR which is related with MBS SAI discussion
LiMeng (Huawei) is fine with postponing this document.
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8.9 S2-2108670 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] LS on SAI usage Huawei,HiSilicon Rel-17 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109187. LiMeng (Huawei) suggests to provide a revision on this after we have a concrete idea on SAI.
Robbie (Ericsson) asks LiMeng (Huawei) whether this one can be used to respond S2-2108991 (R2-2111511)
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LiMeng (Huawei) agrees that the content can be used to respond, but this one is a separated document and suggests to approved it.
Tao(VC) let's check to approve r01 then.
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8.9 S2-2109187 LS OUT Approval LS on MBS broadcast service continuity and MBS session identification SA WG2 Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108670r01. Approved Approved
8.9 S2-2108953 CR Approval 23.247 CR0072 (Rel-17, 'F'): Adding the MBS SAI definition and description ZTE Rel-17 Merged into S2-2109331 Thomas (Nokia) raises concerns against this CR
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Zhendong (ZTE): proposes this CR is merged to 8965
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8.9 S2-2108963 DISCUSSION Approval New identifier for broadcast in SIBs Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Noted Noted
8.9 S2-2108965 CR Approval 23.247 CR0074 (Rel-17, 'F'): Broadcast Frequency selection Identifier Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 r07 agreed. Revised to S2-2109331, merging S2-2108953 Robbie (Ericsson) raises concerns against this CR
Thomas(Nokia) replies to Robbie
Thomas(Nokia) provides r01 maintaining only the general description in an attempt to document agreeable principles
Robbie (Ericsson) provides r02 to keep the minimum agreeable scope
Zhendong (ZTE): provides r03
Robbie (Ericsson) objects to r03.
LiMeng (Huawei) provides r04.
Zhendong (ZTE): provides response
Robbie (Ericsson) provides r05 based on r04.
Thomas (Nokia) provides r06.
Zhendong (ZTE): provides r07
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Robbie (Ericsson) provides r08 to update coversheet.
LiMeng (Huawei) is fine with r07 or r08. The coversheet can be modified by Thomas before uploading the documents if r07 is agreed.
Robbie (Ericsson) is not fine with r00-r07 due to wrong coversheet. Suggest to bring to CC#2 for coversheet update on top of r07 (as indicated in r08)
LiMeng (Huawei) is fine to bring it to CC#2.
Thomas (Nokia) is fine with updated cover sheet as in r08 and bringing this to CC#2
Formally we should agree r07 + 'Summary of change is updated to 'Introduce MBS XXX ID (a temporary name).'
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8.9 S2-2109331 CR Approval 23.247 CR0074R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Broadcast Frequency selection Identifier Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, ZTE, Ericsson, Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108965r07, merging S2-2108953. Approved Agreed
8.9 - - - NF Services - - Docs:=7 -
8.9 S2-2108502 CR Approval 23.502 CR3192R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction on NRF service operations for MBS Samsung Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2108023 from S2#147E. Noted Zhendong (ZTE): provides comments
Thomas(Nokia) suggest to note this revision
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8.9 S2-2108601 CR Approval 23.247 CR0060 (Rel-17, 'F'): Updates to NF services for MBS CATT Rel-17 r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109188. Zhendong (ZTE): provides comments
Thomas (Nokia) provides r01
Xiaoyan (CATT) provides r02
Judy (Ericsson) comments that both 8601 (CATT) and 8867 (Huawei) update clause 9 and there are some overlapping.
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8.9 S2-2109188 CR Approval 23.247 CR0060R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Updates to NF services for MBS CATT Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108601r02. Approved Agreed
8.9 S2-2108667 CR Approval 23.247 CR0064 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on NF services Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109189. Judy (Ericsson) comments that both 8867 (Huawei) and 8601 (CATT) update clause 9 and there are some overlapping to be resolved.
LiMeng (Huawei) provides r01 to remove the overlapping clauses.
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8.9 S2-2109189 CR Approval 23.247 CR0064R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on NF services Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108667r01. Approved Agreed
8.9 S2-2108955 CR Approval 23.247 CR0073 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on the input of PCF/NEF/MB-SMF service operation ZTE Rel-17 r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109190. Thomas (Nokia) provides r01
Judy (Ericsson) provide r02 with only cleanup in cover sheet.
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8.9 S2-2109190 CR Approval 23.247 CR0073R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on the input of PCF/NEF/MB-SMF service operation ZTE Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108955r02. Approved Agreed
8.9 - - - Broadcast - - Docs:=2 -
8.9 S2-2108526 CR Approval 23.247 CR0058 (Rel-17, 'F'): Modification on Broadcast service timeline TD Tech Rel-17 Merged into S2-2109174 LiMeng (Huawei) suggests to merge this document into the Mega CR S2-2108403.
Chen Ying(TD Tech) agrees to LiMeng (Huawei)'s merging this document into the Mega CR S2-2108403. I can give a new version of the Mega CR S2-2108403 later.
Thomas (Nokia) proposes to note this contribution
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Chen Ying(TD Tech) The CR has been modifed and merged into the the Mega CR S2-2108403.
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Merged
8.9 S2-2108617 CR Approval 23.247 CR0051R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Corrections to MBS Broadcast Session Establishment Based on [Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Huawei], CATT Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2108004 from S2#147E. Noted Robbie (Ericsson) asks a question
Fenqin (Huawei) also question on the 4th change.
Thomas (Nokia) provides r01
Judy (Ericsson) provides r02 and comments
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Thomas (Nokia) objects against r02 and comments
Judy (Ericsson) does not accept r00&r01, provide late r03 (based on r02) to add 'MBS service area' from AMF to RAN.
Thomas(Nokia) replies to Judy and also has concerns against late r03
Fenqin (Huawei) agree with Thomas and object r02 /r03.
Xiaoyan (CATT) replies to Judy (Ericsson) and suggest to agree r01.
Judy (Ericsson) responds to Fenqin (Huawei) and Xiaoyan (CATT)
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Noted
8.9 - - - Handover - - Docs:=2 -
8.9 S2-2108655 CR Approval 23.247 CR0035R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Modification on handover procedures Vivo Mobile Communications Co. LTD Rel-17 Revision of (Endorsed) S2-2108015 from S2#147E. Approved Agreed
8.9 S2-2108931 CR Approval 23.247 CR0069 (Rel-17, 'B'): Multicast Data Forwarding between RAN nodes supporting MBS Qualcomm Incorporated Rel-17 Noted Zhenhua (vivo) ask Q
Paul (Ericsson) provides comments and objects to this CR in all revisions.
Miguel (Qualcomm) responds to Paul: my understanding is a compromise way forward was agreed in RAN3?
Miguel (Qualcomm) responds to Zhenhua
Thomas(Nokia) support the CR and comments on RAN3 status
LiMeng (Huawei) considers the CR is helpful and agrees the RAN3 status mentioned by Thomas.
Paul (Ericsson) clarifies that there is no agreement in RAN3 on data forwarding at mobility between MBS supporting RAN nodes..
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LiMeng (Huawei) clarifies and comments that we can keep the 1st added paragraph of the document.
Paul (Ericsson) provides comments.
Paul (Ericsson) objects r00, the original revision.
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Noted
8.9 - - - Others - - Docs:=6 -
8.9 S2-2108400 CR Approval 23.247 CR0008R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Interworking with MBMS over E-UTRAN for broadcast service Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107204 from S2#147E. r04 agreed. Revised to S2-2109191. Thomas (Nokia) provides r01
Robbie (Ericsson) provides r02
Thomas (Nokia) accepts r02
Fenqin (Huawei) provides r03
Robbie (Ericsson) provides r04
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8.9 S2-2109191 CR Approval 23.247 CR0008R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Interworking with MBMS over E-UTRAN for broadcast service Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108400r04. Approved Agreed
8.9 S2-2108509 CR Approval 23.247 CR0057 (Rel-17, 'F'): Multicast MBS service for SNPN Samsung Rel-17 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109192. Josep (DT) objects to this CR.
Youngkyo(Samsung) replies to Josep(DT) and request withdrawal of objection.
Zhendong (ZTE): provides comments
Youngkyo(Samsung) provides a revision r01.
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8.9 S2-2109192 CR Approval 23.247 CR0057R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Multicast MBS service for SNPN Samsung Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108509r01. Approved Agreed
8.9 S2-2108945 DISCUSSION Agreement Discussion on support of satellite access in 5MBS. Xiaomi Rel-17 Noted Sherry (Xiaomi) provides r01.
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8.9 S2-2108946 CR Approval 23.247 CR0071 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on the support of satellite access for Local MBS service and Location dependent MBS service Xiaomi Rel-17 Noted Sherry (Xiaomi) provides r01.
Sherry (Xiaomi) explains that this CR is drafted under the assumption that satellite access is already supported for 5MBS for R17.
Thomas(Nokia) suggest noting the CR.
Sherry(Xiaomi) has no problem to note the CR as long as we agree to revisit this issue in R18.
Jean Yves (Thales) also ok to note the CR as long as we agree to revisit this issue in R18
Relja (TNO) supports to revisit this issue in R18 as part of 'New SID: Architectural enhancements for 5G multicast-broadcast services Phase 2'.
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8.10 - - - System enablers for multi-USIM devices (MUSIM) - - Docs:=46 -
8.10 S2-2108258 LS In Action LS from RAN WG2: Reply LS on NAS-based busy indication RAN WG2 (R2-2108855) Rel-17 Revision of S2-2107010 from S2#147E. Noted Alessio(Nokia) proposes to note this incoming LS as there is no further action for us.
Lalith(Samsung) agrees with Alessio and proposes to note this incoming LS as there is no further action for us.
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8.10 S2-2108263 LS In Information LS from CT WG1: Reply LS on NAS-based busy indication CT WG1 (C1-214917) Rel-17 Revision of S2-2107021 from S2#147E. Noted Alessio(Nokia) proposes to note this incoming LS as there is no action for us. (we are in CC)
Lalith(Samsung) agrees with Alessio and proposes to note this incoming LS as there is no further action for us.
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8.10 S2-2108447 CR Approval 23.501 CR3335R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): On Connection Release and Paging Restriction during a Mobility Registration Update in a TA outside the current Registration Area Based on (Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Intel), vivo Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2108152 from S2#147E. Merged into S2-2109308 Alessio(Nokia) asks to note this CR as it is a revision of an agreed CR that does not need this further revision.
Saso (Intel) proposes to MERGE this CR into S2-2108917.
Saso (Intel) replies to Alessio.
Qian (Ericsson) comments.
Xiaowan(vivo) replies and is OK to merge it into 2108917.
Saso (Intel) replies to Qian (Ericsson).
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8.10 S2-2108448 CR Approval 23.501 CR3235R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Enabling of paging reception for 5GS Based on (Intel, Sony, Ericsson, Apple), vivo Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2108145 from S2#147E. Merged into S2-2109308 and S2-2109310 Qian (Ericsson) comments and propose to merge with 8917 and 8941
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8.10 S2-2108449 CR Approval 23.501 CR3372 (Rel-17, 'F'): MUSIM features for Emergency Registration Vivo Rel-17 Noted Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) asks for clarification
Alessio(Nokia) comments
Qian (Ericsson) comments
Xiaowan(vivo) replies
alessio(nokia) comments and objects to all CRs on emergency at this meeting as they are not really what we need.
Juan Zhang (Qualcomm) provides comments
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8.10 S2-2108450 CR Approval 23.502 CR3239 (Rel-17, 'F'): MUSIM features for Emergency Registration Vivo Rel-17 r03 agreed. Revised to S2-2109299. Alessio(Nokia) requests to note this paper
Xiaowan(vivo) replies Alessio(Nokia)
Alessio(Nokia) comments that indeed we need to indicate how to not hinder callback in general
Lalith(Samsung) seeks clarification.
Xiaowan(vivo) replies Lalith(Samsung)
Xiaowan (vivo) is fine with Alessio(Nokia)'s update.
Saso (Intel) comments Alessio(Nokia)'s update.
Xiaowan (vivo) provides r01 and comment for choice1 provided by Saso (Intel)
Lalith(Samsung) comments.
Saso (Intel) replies to Xiaowan. Object to r01.
Lalith(Samsung) is OK.
Xiaowan(vivo) replies to Saso (Intel) and seek clarification for your comment
Xiaowan(vivo) provides r02
Qian (Ericsson) asks question
Saso (Intel) is OK with r02. Editorial fixes needed
Xiaowan(vivo) replies to Qian (Ericsson)
Xiaowan (vivo) provides r03 to renumber NOTEs.
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Juan Zhang (Qualcomm) is fine with r03.
alessio (Nokia) is fine with r03.
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8.10 S2-2109299 CR Approval 23.502 CR3239R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): MUSIM features for Emergency Registration Vivo Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108450r03. Approved Agreed
8.10 S2-2108483 DISCUSSION Discussion Discussion on paging restrictions and signalling. LG Electronics Rel-17 Noted Lalith (Samsung) seeks clarification.
Myungjune (LGE) replies to Lalith (Samsung)
Steve (Huawei) this discussion document should be NOTED.
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8.10 S2-2108484 CR Approval 23.401 CR3672 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on paging restrictions and signalling LG Electronics Rel-17 Merged into S2-2109306 Steve (Huawei) should be NOTED or marked as merged to S2-2108875
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8.10 S2-2108485 CR Approval 23.501 CR3377 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on paging restrictions and signalling LG Electronics Rel-17 Merged into S2-2109306 Steve (Huawei) should be NOTED or marked as merged to S2-2108878
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8.10 S2-2108791 DISCUSSION Information Discussion About Paging Restriction Information Handling. Qualcomm Incorporated Rel-17 Noted Steve (Huawei) this discussion document should be NOTED.
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8.10 S2-2108792 CR Approval 23.501 CR3258R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on paging restrictions Qualcomm Incorporated Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107220 from S2#147E. Merged into S2-2109306 Alessio(Nokia) proposes to merge this in S2-2108878
Saso (Intel) proposes to use the DISCUSSIONS list to discuss the four options on the table.
Steve (Huawei) should be NOTED or marked as merged to S2-2108878
Juan Zhang (Qualcomm) agrees this CR is merged to S2-2108875
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8.10 S2-2108793 CR Approval 23.401 CR3660R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on paging restrictions Qualcomm Incorporated Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107219 from S2#147E. Merged into S2-2109306 Alessio(Nokia) proposes to merge this in S2-2108875
Saso (Intel) proposes to use the DISCUSSIONS list to discuss the four options on the table.
Steve (Huawei) should be NOTED or marked as merged to S2-2108875
Juan Zhang (Qualcomm) agrees this CR is merged to S2-2108875.
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8.10 S2-2108794 CR Approval 23.502 CR3287 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on paging restrictions Qualcomm Incorporated Rel-17 r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109300. Alessio(Nokia) provides r01
Juan Zhang (Qualcomm) is fine with r01.
Steve (Huawei) asks a question
Juan Zhang (Qualcomm) replies to Steve (Huawei).
Juan Zhang (Qualcomm) provides r02.
Steve (Huawei) Juan Zhang (Qualcomm)
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8.10 S2-2109300 CR Approval 23.502 CR3287R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on paging restrictions Qualcomm Incorporated, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108794r02. Approved Agreed
8.10 S2-2108797 DISCUSSION Agreement Discussion on Paging Cause Indication in the RRC Inactive Assistance Info. Sony, Ericsson, Samsung Rel-17 Noted Noted
8.10 S2-2108799 CR Approval 23.501 CR3430 (Rel-17, 'F'): Adding Paging Cause Indication for Voice Service Supported in the RRC Inactive AI Sony, Ericsson, Samsung Rel-17 r03 agreed. Revised to S2-2109301. Alessio(Nokia)provides r01
Juan Zhang (Qualcomm) thinks r01 is good and we support the idea to include the paging cause in RRC_Inactive assistance information.
Jianning (Xiaomi) provides comment
Lars (Sony) r01 is good
Lars (Sony) responds to Jianning
Jianning (Xiaomi) replies to Lars (Sony)
Lars (Sony) replies to Jianning
Steve (Huawei) provides r02
Lars (Sony) provides r03
Jianning (Xiaomi) replies to Lars (Sony), and propose way forward on r04
Lars (Sony) provides r05
Xiaowan (vivo) comments .
Lars (Sony) provides r06.
Jianning (Xiaomi) comment on r05/06, suggest to go with r04
Steve (Huawei) is the clause consistent before the changes?
Lars (Sony) responds to Jianning does not think r04 is the way to go
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Lars (Sony) responds to Jianning.
Juan Zhang (Qualcomm) prefers r06.
Jianning (Xiaomi) asks clarification to Juan (Qaulcomm)
Jianning (Xiaomi) seeks clarification from Lars (Sony)
Lars (Sony) provides clarification.
Alessio(Nokia) would like to suggest we approve r06
Jianning (Xiaomi) replies to Lars (Sony) , propose new way forward with acceptance that PC indication in RRC Inactive Assistance Information
Lars (Sony) asks Jianning to please consider r06.
Lars (Sony) asks Jianning to please consider r03 which may be even closer to your r07.
Lars (Sony) can we approve either r03 or r06?
Jianning (Xiaomi) replies to Lars (Snoy), r06 is not clear version for us, suggest to go with r07 in CC#2
Jianning (Xiaomi) replies to Lars (Sony), the r03 or r06 still contains something that we cannot accept, suggest to go r07 in CC#2
Lars (Sony) I will then ask to approve r03 + update second change with replacing 'The RRC Inactive Assistance Information also includes information ' with 'The Paging Cause Indication for Voice Service is used'
Lars (Sony) asks to handle this tdoc in CC#2.
Jianning (Xiaomi) agree with lars (Sony)'s new proposal based on r03, by replacing 'The RRC Inactive Assistance Information also includes information ' with 'The Paging Cause Indication for Voice Service is used'
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8.10 S2-2109301 CR Approval 23.501 CR3430R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Adding Paging Cause Indication for Voice Service Supported in the RRC Inactive AI Sony, Ericsson, Samsung, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108799r03. Approved Agreed
8.10 S2-2108800 CR Approval 23.502 CR3288 (Rel-17, 'F'): Paging Cause Indication for Voice Services Supported in the RRC Inactive AI Sony, Ericsson, Samsung Rel-17 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109302. Alessio(Nokia) asks whether we really need this CR and whether this CR is correct.
Lars (Sony) responds to Alessio(Nokia).
Alessio(Nokia). provides r01
Jianning (Xiaomi) provide r02
Lars (Sony) responds to Jianning and is not ok with r02
Jianning (Xiaomi) replise to Lars (Sony)
Xiaowan (vivo) provides r03.
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Juan Zhang (Qualcomm) provides comments to r02 and r03.
Jianning (Xiaomi) provide comment
Lars (Sony) ask Jianning provide a reference to when 'Paging Cause Supported' in sent in the N2 initial UE context setup during SR
Lars (Sony) suggest to approve r01.
Juan Zhang (Qualcomm) supports to approve r01.
Juan Zhang (Qualcomm) replies to Jianning (Xiaomi)
Xiaowan(vivo) is OK to use r01 as basis but replace the change in step 23a by 'If the Multi-USIM UE has indicated support for the Paging Cause Indication for Voice Service feature, and the network supports the Paging Cause Indication for Voice Service, the AMF shall include an indication in the RRC Inactive Assistance Information that the UE supports the Paging Cause Indication for Voice Service to NG-RAN to enable NG-RAN to apply the Paging Cause Indication for Voice Service feature for RAN based paging'.
Jianning (Xiaomi) replies to Juan (Qaulcomm)
Jianning (Xiaomi) replies to Lars (Sony), that may be the new potential update for SR procedure, if PC indication is not in the RRC inactive AI.
Lars (Sony) is ok to approve r01 + the update suggested by Xiaowan.
alessio(Nokia) is ok to approve r01 + the update suggested by Xiaowan. this should be discussed in CC#2 then.
Lars (Sony) asks to handle this tdoc in CC#2.
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8.10 S2-2109302 CR Approval 23.502 CR3288R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Paging Cause Indication for Voice Services Supported in the RRC Inactive AI Sony, Ericsson, Samsung, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108800r01. Approved Agreed
8.10 S2-2108805 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] LS on Paging Cause Indication for Voice Service Supported in RRC Inactive Sony Rel-17 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109303. Steve (Huawei) provides r01
Lars (Sony) ok with r01
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Jianning (Xiaomi) trying to provide r02, if it is not too late.
Alessio(Nokia)) ok with r01
Jianning (Xiaomi) agree to go r01, as the consensus is made to include PC indication in RRC Inactive Assistance Information
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8.10 S2-2109303 LS OUT Approval LS on Paging Cause Indication for Voice Service Supported in RRC Inactive assistance information SA WG2 Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108805r01. Approved Approved
8.10 S2-2108808 CR Approval 23.502 CR3289 (Rel-17, 'F'): Example conditions to remove paging restrictions Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109304. CC#2: Noted Alessio(Nokia) proposes to note this paper as there is no FASMO issue this identifies and solves.
Steve (Huawei) fully rejects the comment from Alessio, the exact opposite is true.
Lars (Sony) comments
Steve (Huawei) comments
Lars (Sony)responds to Steve
Saso (Intel) comments
Steve (Huawei) provides r01
Lars (Sony) provides r02
Steve (Huawei) comments on r02, it removes the useful guidance. R01 is better.
Juan Zhang (Qualcomm) prefers r02.
Xiaowan (vivo) thinks r02 is OK and provides comment.
Steve (Huawei) comments, prefers r01. R02 loses essential guidance.
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Steve (Huawei) objects to r02.
alessio(Nokia) can live with r02 but also with no change (all revisions including the original version are non-essential correction, meaning nothing breaks without the change)
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Noted
8.10 S2-2109304 CR Approval 23.502 CR3289R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Example conditions to remove paging restrictions Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108808r02. CC#2: WITHDRAWN Withdrawn
8.10 S2-2108809 CR Approval 23.401 CR3675 (Rel-17, 'F'): Example conditions to remove paging restrictions Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Noted Alessio(Nokia) proposes to note this paper as there is no FASMO issue this identifies and solves.
Steve (Huawei) fully rejects the comment from Alessio, the exact opposite is true.
Lars (Sony) comments
Saso (Intel) comments
Steve (Huawei) provides r01
Lars (Sony) provides r02
Steve (Huawei) comments on r02, it removes the useful guidance. R01 is better.
Juan Zhang (Qualcomm) prefers r02.
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Steve (Huawei) objects to r02.
alessio(Nokia) can live with r02 but also with no change (all revisions including the original version are non-essential correction, meaning nothing breaks without the change) R01 is not ok
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8.10 S2-2108812 CR Approval 23.501 CR3433 (Rel-17, 'F'): Exception of Paging Restriction for important system signalling Xiaomi Rel-17 Merged into S2-2109307 Lars (Sony) comments on new option (e) and suggest not to add (e).
Steve (Huawei) comments
Alessio(Nokia) believes the current understanding is that in mode a) the network is not expected to page at all (as the text says) and the UE is not required to monitor paging . in mode A the network should not be in a hurry to configure or reach the UE as anyhow the UE is not available for any MT service in the USIM. the next time the UE comes back to life for the USIM, the network by all means can catch up. proposes to note this CR (there is nothing FASMO here)
Jianning (Xiaomi) replies to Lars(Sony)
Jianning (Xiaomi) replies to Alessio (Nokia), actully the main issue is for PR-b), c) and d) whether the paging of control plane signaling is allowed or not, several CRs are trying to solve this issue. And people seems to agree the PR-a) is used to restrict all the paging (including paging of control plane signaling). It is too early to NOTE this paper, suggest to discuss further together with other CRs to see what can be achieved.
Lalith (Samsung) comments
Steve (Huawei) should be NOTED or marked as merged to S2-2108878
Jianning (Xiaomi) is ok to merge into 8878 for futher progress
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8.10 S2-2108813 CR Approval 23.401 CR3676 (Rel-17, 'F'): Exception of Paging Restriction for important system signalling Xiaomi Rel-17 Merged into S2-2109306 Alessio(Nokia) asks to note this CR (there is nothing FASMO here)
Jianning (Xiaomi) replies to Alessio (Nokia), this CR openly proivdes three possible options to correct the potential issue for PR feature what we have discussed in previous meeting. it is FASMO issue. There are also other CRs to fix this issue. It is too early to NOTE the paper, there is still more time for further discussion to see what we can achieve.
Lalith (Samsung) comments
Steve (Huawei) should be NOTED or marked as merged to S2-2108875
Jianning (Xiaomi) is ok to merge into 8875 for futher progress
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Merged
8.10 S2-2108814 CR Approval 23.502 CR3290 (Rel-17, 'F'): Exception of Paging Restriction for important system signalling Xiaomi Rel-17 Noted Alessio(Nokia) proposes to note this paper as there is no FASMO issue this identifies and solves
Jianning (Xiaomi) replies to Alessio (Nokia), this CR openly proivdes three possible options to correct the potential issue for PR feature what we have discussed in previous meeting. it is FASMO issue. There are also other CRs to fix this issue. It is too early to NOTE the paper, there is still more time for further discussion to see what we can achieve.
Saso (Intel) proposes to use the DISCUSSIONS list to discuss the four options on the table.
Steve (Huawei) should be NOTED
Jianning (Xiaomi) is ok to NOTE, as there is no impact on 502 per discussion
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Noted
8.10 S2-2108815 DISCUSSION Discussion Discussion on exception for paging of control plane signalling when using PR. Xiaomi Rel-17 Noted Alessio(Nokia) proposes to note this paper as there is no FASMO issue this identifies.
Jianning (Xiaomi) replies to Alessio (Nokia), this CR openly proivdes three possible options to correct the potential issue for PR feature what we have discussed in previous meeting. it is FASMO issue. There are also other CRs to fix this issue. It is too early to NOTE the paper, there is still more time for further discussion to see what we can achieve.
Steve (Huawei) this discussion document should be NOTED.
Jianning (Xiaomi) is ok to NOTE this Discussion paper.
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Noted
8.10 S2-2108834 CR Approval 23.401 CR3677 (Rel-17, 'F'): Adding Alternative IMSI to the MM Context in the MME Sony Rel-17 r06 agreed. Revised to S2-2109305. Saso (Intel) points out that the LS IN from RAN2 (8997) indicates their preference for calculating the Alternative IMS in AS, also aligned with CT1.
Lars (Sony) comments
Steve (Huawei) comments on UE vs network side.
Saso (Intel) withdraws comment.
Lars (Sony) comment and ask do we need an LS reply?.
Qian (Ericsson) provides comments.
Lars (Sony) provides r01
Steve (Huawei) LSout would be useful.
Saso (Intel) thinks that an LS OUT is not urgent.
Lars (Sony) LS OUT should be possible to send from this meeting.
Juan Zhang (Qualcomm) thinks it is useful to send the reply LS.
Saso (Intel) is not opposed to sending LS OUT from this meeting, but not sure if this is possible.
Steve (Huawei) good for me.
Lars (Sony) have requested a tdoc number now for an LS.
Lars (Sony) We can get an tdoc# only if we have consensus on the LS and it is urgent.
Jianning (Xiaomi) supports to try this LSout in this meeting.
Juan Zhang (Qualcomm) replies the comment
Steve (Huawei) provides r02.
Lars (Sony) asks Steve on r02.
Steve (Huawei) replies to Lars
Saso (Intel) comments on the LS.
Lars (Sony) provides r03 fixing the reference
Xiaowan(vivo) clarifies the reason of misalignment and propose a way forward
Lars (Sony) responds to Xiaowan
Xiaowan provide r04
Steve (Huawei) does not like r04
Lars (Sony) comments on r04 and provides r05.
Xiaowan(vivo) replies Steve (Huawei)
Xiaowan(vivo) replies to Lars (Sony).
Steve (Huawei) provides r06
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Lars (Sony) supports r06.
Juan Zhang (Qualcomm) is OK with r06.
Xiaowan(vivo) OK with r06.
Lars (Sony) When making the final update, I will add Vivo as supporting company.
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8.10 S2-2109305 CR Approval 23.401 CR3677R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Adding Alternative IMSI to the MM Context in the MME Sony, Vivo Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108834r06. Approved Agreed
8.10 S2-2108875 CR Approval 23.401 CR3678 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on paging restrictions Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 r08 agreed. Revised to S2-2109306, merging S2-2108484, S2-2108485, S2-2108792, S2-2108793 and S2-2108813 Lalith(Samsung) seeks clarification.
alessio (Nokia) provides r01 based on offline discussion
Myungjune (LGE) provides r02 to update coversheet
Lalith (Samsung) provides r03
Krisztian (Apple) provides r04.
Jianning (Xiaomi) comments on r03/04
Lalith(Samsung) replies to Jianning (Xiaomi)
Myungjune (LGE) comments on r03/r04
Juan Zhang (Qualcomm) asks to co-sign the CR.
Lalith(Samsung) replies to Myungjune (LGE)
Alessio(Nokia) ok with r04
Myungjune (LGE) replies to Lalith(Samsung)
Lalith(Samsung) replies to Myungjune(LGE)
Jianning (Xiaomi) share the concerns with Myungjune (LGE) on r03/04
Lalith(Samsung) comments.
Jianning (Xiaomi) replies to Lalith (Samsung), provide r05
Myungjune (LGE) provides r06
Lalith(Samsung) is OK with r05 and r06
Steve (Huawei) comments on r04, r05 and r06, provides r07.
Jianning (Xiaomi) is ok with r07
Myungjune (LGE) provides r08
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8.10 S2-2109306 CR Approval 23.401 CR3678R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on paging restrictions Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, LG Electronics, Apple Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108875r08, merging S2-2108484, S2-2108485, S2-2108792, S2-2108793 and S2-21088. Approved Agreed
8.10 S2-2108878 CR Approval 23.501 CR3449 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on paging restrictions Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 r07 agreed. Revised to S2-2109307, merging S2-2108812 Lalith(Samsung) seeks clarification.
Alessio(Nokia) provides r01 based on offline discussion
Myungjune (LGE) provides r02 to update coversheet
Lalith (Samsung) provides r03
Krisztian (Apple) provides r04 matching changes in 8875r04.
Jianning (Xiaomi) comments on r03/04
Alessio(Nokia) ok with r04.
Myungjune (LGE) provides r06
Xiaowan(vivo) comment
Myungjune (LGE) provides r07
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Jianning (Xiaomi) is ok with r07
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8.10 S2-2109307 CR Approval 23.501 CR3449R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on paging restrictions Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, LG Electronics, Apple Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108878r07, merging S2-2108812. Approved Agreed
8.10 S2-2108917 CR Approval 23.501 CR3235R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): Enabling of paging reception for 5GS Intel, [Sony, Ericsson, Apple] Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2108145 from S2#147E. r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109308, merging S2-2108447 and S2-2108448 Xiaowan (vivo) provides r01
Lars (Sony)we are fine with r01, and supports the update so the brackets around Sony can be removed.
Saso (Intel) is OK with r01.
Krisztian (Apple) is fine with r01.
Jianning (Xiaomi) is ok with r01
Qian (Ericsson) is fine with r01, and supports the update so the brackets for Ericsson can be removed.
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8.10 S2-2109308 CR Approval 23.501 CR3235R4 (Rel-17, 'F'): Enabling of paging reception for 5GS Intel, Sony, Ericsson, Apple, vivo Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108917r01, merging S2-2108447 and S2-2108448. Approved Agreed
8.10 S2-2108939 CR Approval 23.401 CR3658R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): MUSIM capabilities in Emergency Attach Intel, [Apple] Rel-17 Revision of (Noted) S2-2107101 from S2#147E. r07 agreed. Revised to S2-2109309. Alessio(Nokia) requests to note this paper
Saso (Intel) clarifies that this CR is needed to enable stage 3 work.
Qian (Ericsson) comments and supports the CR.
Xiaowan (vivo) comments and provides r01.
Saso (Intel) comments on r01. Prefers r00.
Xiaowan(vivo) replies to Saso (Intel)
Saso (Intel) provides r02. Still prefers r00. R01 is not acceptable.
Krisztian (Apple) provides r03 (equivalent with r02 but without brackets in Source). We are OK with r00 as well but r01 is not acceptable.
Krisztian (Apple) provides r04 that fixes the missing updates to the signaling flow in 5.3.2.1
Lars (Sony) provides r05.
Saso (Intel) provides r06. Objects to r05.
Lars (Sony) we are ok with r06.
Juan Zhang (Qualcomm) is ok with r06.
Xiaowan (vivo) provides r07
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Juan Zhang (Qualcomm) is fine with r07.
Lars (Sony) is fine with r07.
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8.10 S2-2109309 CR Approval 23.401 CR3658R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): MUSIM capabilities in Emergency Attach Intel, Apple Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108939r07. Approved Agreed
8.10 S2-2108941 CR Approval 23.501 CR3237R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): MUSIM capabilities in Emergency Registration [Apple,] Intel Rel-17 Revision of (Noted) S2-2107102 from S2#147E. r03 agreed. Revised to S2-2109310, merging S2-2108448. Alessio(Nokia) requests to note this paper
Saso (Intel) clarifies that this CR is needed to enable stage 3 work. Proposes to keep the discussion on the 8939 thread.
Qian (Ericsson) comments and supports the CR.
Xiaowan (vivo) comments and provides r01.
Saso (Intel) comments on r01. Prefers r00.
Krisztian (Apple) provides r02 that matches the changes in 8939r04.
Saso (Intel) is OK with r02.
Juan Zhang (Qualcomm) is OK with r02.
Xiaowan (vivo) provides r03
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Juan Zhang (Qualcomm) is OK with r03.
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8.10 S2-2109310 CR Approval 23.501 CR3237R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): MUSIM capabilities in Emergency Registration Apple, Intel Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108941r03, merging S2-2108448. Approved Agreed
8.10 S2-2108942 CR Approval 23.502 CR3124R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): MUSIM capabilities in Emergency Registration Intel, [Apple] Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107103 from S2#147E. r03 agreed. Revised to S2-2109311. Alessio(Nokia) proposes to note this CR
Saso (Intel) clarifies that this CR is needed to enable stage 3 work. Proposes to keep the discussion on the 8939 thread.
Nokia sees no reason why this is needed still
Saso (Intel) replies to Alessio
Qian (Ericsson) comments and supports the CR.
Xiaowan (vivo) comments and provides r01.
Saso (Intel) comments on r01. Prefers r00.
Krisztian (Apple) provides r02 that matches the changes in 8939r04.
Saso (Intel) is OK with r02.
Juan Zhang (Qualcomm) is OK with r02.
Xiaowan (vivo) provides r03
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Juan Zhang (Qualcomm) is OK with r03.
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8.10 S2-2109311 CR Approval 23.502 CR3124R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): MUSIM capabilities in Emergency Registration Intel, Apple Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108942r03. Approved Agreed
8.10 S2-2108950 DISCUSSION Agreement On the need of MUSIM capabilities for Emergency Attach/Registration. Intel Rel-17 Noted Noted
8.10 S2-2108997 LS In Action LS from RAN WG2: Reply LS on RAN2 agreements for MUSIM RAN WG2 (R2-2111329) Rel-17 Postponed Postponed
8.10 S2-2108998 LS In Action LS from RAN WG2: LS on RAN2 agreements for paging with service indication RAN WG2 (R2-2111330) Rel-17 Postponed Postponed
8.11 - - - Architecture aspects for using satellite access in 5G (5GSAT_ARCH) - - Docs:=45 -
8.11 S2-2108274 LS In Action LS from RAN WG1: Reply LS on PDB for new 5QI RAN WG1 (R1-2106331) Rel-17 Revision of S2-2107076 from S2#147E. Noted Stefan (Ericsson) proposes to NOTE the LS.
Sherry (Xiaomi) agrees to NOTE the LS.
DongYeon (Samsung) agrees to NOTE this LS.
Jean Yves (Thales) ok to NOTE the LS
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Noted
8.11 S2-2108252 LS In Action LS from CT WG1: LS reply on multiple TACs per PLMN CT WG1 (C1-213965) Rel-17 Revision of S2-2106993 from S2#147E. CC#2: Postponed Postponed
8.11 S2-2108255 LS In Action LS from SA WG3: Reply LS on UE location aspects in NTN SA WG3 (S3-212306) Rel-17 Revision of S2-2107002 from S2#147E. CC#2: Postponed Postponed
8.11 S2-2108260 LS In Action LS from RAN WG2: Response LS on Multiple TACs per PLMN RAN WG2 (R2-2108888) Rel-17 Revision of S2-2107015 from S2#147E. CC#2: Postponed Postponed
8.11 S2-2108994 LS In Information LS from SA WG1: Reply LS on Indication of country of UE location and its use in PLMN selection SA WG1 (S1-214208) Rel-17 Noted DongYeon (Samsung) proposes to NOTE this LS, The content of LS is noticed and the related discussion has done in S2-2108329.
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Noted
8.11 S2-2108279 LS In Action Reply LS on UE location aspects in NTN CT WG1 (C1-216250) Rel-17 Response drafted in S2-2108697. Final response in S2-2109337 Replied to
8.11 S2-2108697 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] Reply LS on UE location aspects in NTN OPPO Rel-17 Response to S2-2108279. Merged into S2-2109337 Stefan (Ericsson) comments that there are two overlapping LSs
Jean Yves (Thales) proposes 8510 r01 merging 2 LSs out (8510 and 8697)
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Jingran (OPPO) is ok to merge.
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Merged
8.11 S2-2108681 CR Approval 23.501 CR3413 (Rel-17, 'C'): Multiple TACs handling for NR satellite access OPPO Rel-17 Merged into S2-2109097 Stefan (Ericsson) provides comments
Jean Yves (Thales) provides comment and proposes to focus on 8360
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Jingran (OPPO) replies.
Stephen (Qualcomm) proposes merger of this CR into S2-2108360
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Merged
8.11 S2-2108693 CR Approval 23.502 CR3274 (Rel-17, 'C'): Multiple TACs handling for NR Satellite Access OPPO Rel-17 Noted Stefan (Ericsson) provides comments.
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Stephen (Qualcomm) believes the CR can be noted
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Noted
8.11 S2-2108359 DISCUSSION Approval Tracking Area handling for moving cells . Ericsson Noted Stephen (Qualcomm) provides comments
Hucheng (CATT) comments and gives a proposal.
Yuxin (Xiaomi) provides comments
Stefan (Ericsson) replies to Yuxin and Stephen
Stefan (Ericsson) replies to Hucheng
Hannu (Nokia) replies and prefers option B, C or E
Jean Yves (Thales) comments and propose to move forward with option C+D (opt)
Stephen (Qualcomm) provides more comments
Stefan (Ericsson) provides comments
Wanqiang (Huawei) provides comments
Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) comments
Stephen (Qualcomm) comments again
Stefan (Ericsson) provides more comments
Wanqiang (Huawei) provides more comments
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Hannu (Nokia) comments in favour of minimum number of procedures.
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8.11 S2-2108360 CR Approval 23.501 CR3364 (Rel-17, 'F'): TA handling for moving cells in satellite access Ericsson Rel-17 r09 agreed. Revised to S2-2109097, merging S2-2108495, S2-2108496 and S2-2108681 Stephen (Qualcomm) provides comments and an r01
Jingran (OPPO) provides comments.
Hucheng (CATT) comments.
Stephen (Qualcomm) replies to previous comments
Stefan (Ericsson) replies and provides r02
Wanqiang (Huawei) comments.
Hannu (Nokia) comments and shares r03.
Hucheng (CATT) replies to Stephen (Qualcomm).
Stephen (Qualcomm) provides an r04 and more comments
Hucheng (CATT) provides r05.
Yuxin (Xiaomi) provides r06.
Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) provides r07
Stefan (Ericsson) provides r08
Yuxin (Xiaomi) replies to Stefan (Ericsson)
Stefan (Ericsson) replies to Yuxin and provides r09
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Stephen (Qualcomm) prefers r09 followed by r08, r05, r04, r07, r06 in that order
Yuxin (Xiaomi) is fine with r09
Jean Yves (Thales) is fine with r09. Thank you all for this good discussion.
Hannu (Nokia) can live with r09 but points out it's still not perfect.
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8.11 S2-2109097 CR Approval 23.501 CR3364R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): TA handling for moving cells in satellite access Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108360r09, merging S2-2108495, S2-2108496 and S2-2108681. Approved Agreed
8.11 S2-2108501 DISCUSSION Discussion Resolution of Support for TACs, SAs, FAs for NR Satellite Access. Qualcomm Incorporated Rel-17 Noted Noted
8.11 S2-2108746 DISCUSSION Discussion Discussion on Supporting Multiple TACs for Satellite Access. Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of (Noted) S2-2107618 from S2#147E. Noted Noted
8.11 S2-2108747 CR Approval 23.501 CR3323R1 (Rel-17, 'C'): Support multiple TACs for satellite access Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107619 from S2#147E. r04 agreed. Revised to S2-2109098. Stefan (Ericsson) provides comments and suggests to merge this into 8360 and 8499
Wanqiang (Huawei) provides feedback and r01
Stephen (Qualcomm) provides an r02
Wanqiang (Huawei) comments on r02
Stefan (Ericsson) provides r03
Wanqiang (Huawei) provides r04
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Stephen (Qualcomm) prefers r04 followed by r03
Stefan (Ericsson) ok with r04
Jean Yves (Thales) ok with r04
Hannu (Nokia) supports r04
Relja (TNO) supports r04.
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Revised
8.11 S2-2109098 CR Approval 23.501 CR3323R2 (Rel-17, 'C'): Support multiple TACs for satellite access Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108747r04. Approved Agreed
8.11 S2-2108748 CR Approval 23.502 CR3197R1 (Rel-17, 'C'): Support multiple TACs for satellite access Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107620 from S2#147E. Covered by S2-2108499 Stefan (Ericsson) provides comments
Stephen (Qualcomm) comments that the CR seems unneeded
Stefan (Ericsson) comments and provides r01, but also ok to note CR
Wanqiang (Huawei) is ok with r01.
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Wanqiang (Huawei) propose to agree r01 if there is no other view. Also S2-2108693 marked as merging into this one
Stephen (Qualcomm) proposes merger into S2-2108499
Wanqiang (Huawei) OK to merge.
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Noted
8.11 S2-2108496 CR Approval 23.501 CR3381 (Rel-17, 'B'): Support of TAI indication in a ULI for NR Satellite Access Qualcomm Incorporated Rel-17 Merged into S2-2109097 Wanqiang (Huawei) comments to merge into S2-2108360 based on the discussion?
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Stephen (Qualcomm) agrees to merge into S2-2108360
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Merged
8.11 S2-2108499 CR Approval 23.502 CR3251 (Rel-17, 'B'): Support of NG-RAN Location Reporting for NR Satellite Access Qualcomm Incorporated Rel-17 Approved Agreed
8.11 S2-2108494 CR Approval 23.501 CR3379 (Rel-17, 'B'): Indicating a last visited TAI in a Registration for NR Satellite Access Qualcomm Incorporated Rel-17 Approved Agreed
8.11 S2-2108498 CR Approval 23.502 CR3250 (Rel-17, 'B'): Indicating a last visited TAI in a Registration for NR Satellite Access Qualcomm Incorporated Rel-17 Approved Agreed
8.11 S2-2108495 CR Approval 23.501 CR3380 (Rel-17, 'B'): Support of Service Areas and Forbidden Areas for NR Satellite Access Qualcomm Incorporated Rel-17 Merged into S2-2109097 Wanqiang (Huawei) comments to merge into S2-2108360 based on the discussion?
Stefan (Ericsson) supports to merge into 8360
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Stephen (Qualcomm) agrees to merge into S2-2108360
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Merged
8.11 S2-2108510 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] LS on TAC reporting in ULI and support of SAs and FAs for NR Satellite Access Qualcomm Incorporated Rel-17 Response to S2-2105283 (Replied to at S2#147E). r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109337, merging S2-2108697 Stefan (Ericsson) comments that there are two overlapping LSs
Jean Yves (Thales) proposes 8510 r01 merging 2 LSs out (8510 and 8697)
Stefan (Ericsson) provides r02
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Jingran (OPPO) is ok with r02
Wanqiang (Huawei) ask to add the S2-2108747 in the attachment on top of rev2
Stephen (Qualcomm) can agree the r02 and with adding S2-2108747 as another attachment
Yuxin (Xiaomi) is fine with r02
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Revised
8.11 S2-2109337 LS OUT Approval LS on TAC reporting in ULI and support of SAs and FAs for NR Satellite Access SA WG2 Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108510r02, merging S2-2108697. Approved Approved
8.11 S2-2108530 CR Approval 23.501 CR3301R1 (Rel-17, 'C'): Support of selecting a single TAI CATT Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107446 from S2#147E. Noted Hucheng (CATT) provides r01.
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Stephen (Qualcomm) proposes merger of this CR into S2-2108360
Jean Yves (Thales) propose to note the CR
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Hucheng (CATT) is OK to either merge this paper into S2-2108360 or note it, slightly prefers the merger.
Noted
8.11 S2-2108514 DISCUSSION Approval Discussion on Registration Update handling when broadcasting more than one TACs. Xiaomi Rel-17 Noted Noted
8.11 S2-2108515 CR Approval 23.501 CR3383 (Rel-17, 'C'): Mobility Registration Update handling Xiaomi Rel-17 Noted Stefan (Ericsson) comments and questions the need for the CR
Hannu (Nokia) can't see why NR satellite access specific requirement for Mobility Registration Update would be needed?
Yuxin (Xiaomi) clarification request to Stefan (Ericsson) comments
Yuxin (Xiaomi) answers Hannu (Nokia) questions
Stephen (Qualcomm) comments
Guillaume (MediaTek) agrees with Stefan (Ericsson)
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Stephen (Qualcomm) proposes to note the CR
Yuxin (Xiaomi) agrees to note the CR
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Noted
8.11 S2-2108947 CR Approval 23.501 CR3458 (Rel-17, 'F'): AMF selection for Intra NG-RAN node N2 based handover Xiaomi Rel-17 Noted DongYeon (Samsung) provides r01.
Hannu (Nokia) provides r02 simplifying the CR even further.
Wanqiang (Huawei) comments.
Stefan (Ericsson) comments
Sherry (Xiaomi) provides r03.
Sherry (Xiaomi) provides r04.
Stefan (Ericsson) asks whether any CR is needed
Chris (Vodafone) tends to agree with Ericsson
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Hannu (Nokia) supports the view that CR is not needed and can be noted.
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Sherry (Xiaomi) replies to Hannu, Chris and Stefan.
Noted
8.11 S2-2108325 CR Approval 23.501 CR3284R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Editorial correction in TS 23.501 Xiaomi, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107836 from S2#147E. r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109099. DongYeon (Samsung) provides r01.
Yuxin (Xiaomi) comments to r01.
Hucheng (CATT) comments.
Hannu (Nokia) supports Yuxin and prefers the previous version of the CR before r01.
Yuxin (Xiaomi) replies and prefers to use r00.
Stephen (Qualcomm) also prefers the r00
Stefan (Ericsson) also prefers r00
Yuxin (Xiaomi) agrees with Stephen (Qualcomm) and provides r02
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Stephen (Qualcomm) prefers the r02 but the r00 is also acceptable
Jean Yves (Thales) prefers the r02 also
Hannu (Nokia) also supports r02 as the way forward. Can also live with the original version.
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Revised
8.11 S2-2109099 CR Approval 23.501 CR3284R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): Editorial correction in TS 23.501 Xiaomi, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108325r02. Approved Agreed
8.11 S2-2108326 CR Approval 23.502 CR3161R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Editorial correction in TS 23.502 Xiaomi, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107837 from S2#147E. Approved Agreed
8.11 S2-2108327 CR Approval 23.503 CR0659R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Editorial correction in TS 23.503 Xiaomi, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107838 from S2#147E. r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109100. Stephen (Qualcomm) comments
Yuxin (Xiaomi) agrees with Stephen (Qualcomm) comments and provides r01
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Stephen (Qualcomm) agrees the r01
Hannu (Nokia) supports r01 and thanks Stephen for the comment and Yuxin for providing the revision.
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Revised
8.11 S2-2109100 CR Approval 23.503 CR0659R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): Editorial correction in TS 23.503 Xiaomi, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108327r01. Approved Agreed
8.11 S2-2108698 CR Approval 23.501 CR3415 (Rel-17, 'C'): Mobility Registration Update trigger clarification Xiaomi Rel-17 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109101. Stefan (Ericsson) provides r01
Hannu (Nokia) prefers r01
Yuxin (Xiaomi) agrees with r01
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8.11 S2-2109101 CR Approval 23.501 CR3415R1 (Rel-17, 'C'): Mobility Registration Update trigger clarification Xiaomi Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108698r01. Approved Agreed
8.11 S2-2108329 CR Approval 23.501 CR3030R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): UE location verification handling Ericsson, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107835 from S2#147E. r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109338. DongYeon (Samsung) asks for clarification.
Hannu (Nokia) answers to DongYeon and provides r01 to update the cover page.
DongYeon (Samsung) comments..
Stephen (Qualcomm) provides comments and an r02
Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) comments.
Stephen (Qualcomm) provides comments on the SA1 LS
DongYeon (Samsung) proposes to NOTE this CR.
Jean Yves (Thales) provides comments on the SA1 LS and supports r02
DongYeon (Samsung) provides r03.
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Stephen (Qualcomm) prefers r03 followed by r02
Jean Yves (Thales) ok with r02 and r03
DongYeon (Samsung) prefers r03.
Hannu (Nokia) can only agree r02. r03 breaks the TS 23.501 and 23.502 CRs that move UE location verification to clause 5.4.11.4 meaning that also the previous versions of this 23.501 CR in S2-2107835 and S2-2107231 agreed in SA2 #147E shall be rejected in order to reverse the whole removal of duplication of text between TS 23.501 and TS 23.502.
DongYeon (Samsung) prefers r03, but not object to r02.
Hannu (Nokia) requests that this CR is marked up for CC. SA2 needs to decide which versions (if any) of S2-2108329, S2-2107835 and S2-2107231 to send for plenary approval.
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Hannu (Nokia) withdraws his request to bring this CR to CC if r02 can be agreed.
Revised
8.11 S2-2109338 CR Approval 23.501 CR3030R4 (Rel-17, 'F'): UE location verification handling Ericsson, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108329r02. CC#2: Approved Agreed
8.11 S2-2108481 CR Approval 23.501 CR3376 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on IAB support for NR satellite access Rakuten Mobile, Inc Rel-17 Approved Agreed
8.11 S2-2108482 CR Approval 23.401 CR3671 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on IAB support for NR satellite access Rakuten Mobile, Inc Rel-17 Noted Stefan (Ericsson) provides comments and questions the need for the CR
Hannu (Nokia) shares the concern of Stefan that this CR is not appropriate under the present work item scope.
Aoken (Rakuten Mobile) provide the comment.
Stephen (Qualcomm) comments
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Noted
8.11 S2-2108513 CR Approval 23.501 CR3318R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Limited service PLMN selection for emergency Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Xiaomi Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107568 from S2#147E. r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109102. Stephen (Qualcomm) provides comments and an r01
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Jean Yves (Thales) agrees with r01
Yuxin (Xiaomi) agrees with r01
Hannu (Nokia) agrees r01
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Revised
8.11 S2-2109102 CR Approval 23.501 CR3318R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Limited service PLMN selection for emergency Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Xiaomi Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108513r01. Approved Agreed
8.11 S2-2109000 LS In Action LS from RAN WG2: Reply LS on UE location aspects in NTN RAN WG2 (R2-2111547) Rel-17 CC#2: Postponed Postponed
8.11 S2-2109001 LS In Information LS from RAN WG2: Reply LS on extended NAS supervision timers at satellite access RAN WG2 (R2-2111612) Rel-17 Noted Noted
8.11 S2-2109005 LS In Action LS from RAN WG3: Reply LS on UE Location Aspects in NTN RAN WG3 (R3-216067) Rel-17 CC#2: Postponed Postponed
8.11 S2-2109018 LS In Action Reply LS on UE location aspects in NTN SA WG3 (S3-214394) Rel-17 CC#2: Postponed Postponed
8.12 - - - Architecture enhancements for 3GPP support of advanced V2X services - Phase 2 (eV2XARC_Ph2) - - Docs:=4 -
8.12 S2-2108300 CR Approval 23.287 CR0165R2 (Rel-17, 'B'): NR Tx Profile LG Electronics, Deutsche Telekom, ZTE, Tencent, vivo, Intel, CATT, Lenovo, Motorola Mobility, OPPO Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107841 from S2#147E. r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109103. Zhang (Ericsson) provides r01
LaeYoung (LGE) is fine with r01.
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8.12 S2-2109103 CR Approval 23.287 CR0165R3 (Rel-17, 'B'): NR Tx Profile LG Electronics, Deutsche Telekom, ZTE, Tencent, vivo, Intel, CATT, Lenovo, Motorola Mobility, OPPO, Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108300r01. Approved Agreed
8.12 S2-2108301 CR Approval 23.287 CR0169 (Rel-17, 'F'): Resolution of ENs related to PC5 DRX LG Electronics, Deutsche Telekom, ZTE, Tencent Rel-17 Approved Agreed
8.12 S2-2109372 LS In Action Reply LS on Tx Profile RAN WG2 (R2-2111432) Rel-17 Postponed Postponed
8.13 - - - 5G System Enhancement for Advanced Interactive Services (5G_AIS) - - Docs:=0 -
8.14 - - - Enhancement to the 5GC LoCation Services-Phase 2 (5G_eLCS_Ph2) - - Docs:=21 -
8.14 S2-2108253 LS In Information LS from RAN WG1: LS on Positioning Reference Units (PRUs) for enhancing positioning performance RAN WG1 (R1-2106326) Rel-17 Revision of S2-2106995 from S2#147E. Response drafted in S2-2108756. Final response in S2-2109105 Runze (Huawei) proposes to NOTE the LS.
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Replied to
8.14 S2-2108756 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] Response LS on Positioning Reference Units (PRUs) for enhancing positioning performance CATT Rel-17 Response to S2-2108253. r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109105. Stephen (Qualcomm) provides comments and an r01
Sherry (Xiaomi) comments.
Yunjing (CATT) replies to Sherry.
Runze (Huawei) replies and suggest to merge into S2-2109017..
Yunjing (CATT) thinks the two draft LSs are replied to different LSs came from different RAN WGs and prefers to keep the two LSs separate.
Runze (Huawei) replies.
Cai Simon (Nokia) supports Yunjing (CATT) with two separate LS replies
Sherry (Xiaomi) agrees with Runze to have merged LS reply.
Yunjing (CATT) prefers separate LS replies to different LSs from different RAN WGs and provides r02.
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Runze (Huawei) is fine to send this LS and suggest to align the response in 2017.
Stephen (Qualcomm) can agree r02 or r01 but not r00
Sherry (Xiaomi) still thinks 9017 already included enough information for RAN1 and RAN2 to understand SA2 position on this issue, but if she is the only one having concern, she can live with r02.
Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) supports r01/r02 only.
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Revised
8.14 S2-2109105 LS OUT Approval Response LS on Positioning Reference Units (PRUs) for enhancing positioning performance SA WG2 Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108756r02. Approved Approved
8.14 S2-2108270 LS In Action LS from RAN WG2: Reply LS on determination of location estimates in local co-ordinates RAN WG2 (R2-2108957) Rel-17 Revision of S2-2107040 from S2#147E. Responses drafted in S2-2108358 and S2-2108505. Postponed Postponed
8.14 S2-2108358 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] Response LS on determination of location estimates in local co-ordinates Ericsson Rel-17 Response to S2-2108270. Noted Yunjing (CATT) provides r01 to merge S2-2108505 into this draft LS.
Runze (Huawei) objects r01 and provides r02.
Åke (Ericsson)finds r01 acceptable
Stephen (Qualcomm) provides an r03
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Runze (Huawei) objects R03 and propose to agree r02.
Stephen (Qualcomm) can agree r03 but not any other version
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Noted
8.14 S2-2108505 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] LS Response to Reply LS on determination of location estimates in local co-ordinates Qualcomm Incorporated Rel-17 Response to S2-2108270. Noted Runze (Huawei) comments and suggests this paper merge into S2-2108358..
Yunjing (CATT) suggests this paper merge into S2-2108358.
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Stephen (Qualcomm) agrees to a merger into S2-2108358
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Noted
8.14 S2-2108491 CR Approval 23.273 CR0205 (Rel-17, 'F'): Addition of Exception Procedures Qualcomm Incorporated Rel-17 Postponed Åke (Ericsson) Provides comments
Yunjing (CATT) Provides comments
Stephen (Qualcomm) replies to comments and provides an r01
Runze (Huawei) provides comments.
Cai Simon (Nokia) provides further comments
Yunjing (CATT) provides comments.
Stephen (Qualcomm) provides an r02 and replies to previous comments
Yunjing (CATT) replies.
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Yunjing (CATT) supports Cai Simon (Nokia), especially when SLT is introduced.
Stephen (Qualcomm) agrees to postpone the CR
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Postponed
8.14 S2-2108493 CR Approval 23.273 CR0151R5 (Rel-17, 'B'): Addition of a Scheduled Location Time Qualcomm Incorporated Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107787 from S2#147E. r03 agreed. Revised to S2-2109106, merging S2-2108841 Leo (Deutsche Telekom) provides r01.
Runze (Huawei) objects to r00 and r01, and provides r02.
Stephen (Qualcomm) provides an r03
Runze (Huawei) can live with r03
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Åke (Ericsson) accept r02 and r03
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Revised
8.14 S2-2109106 CR Approval 23.273 CR0151R6 (Rel-17, 'B'): Addition of a Scheduled Location Time Qualcomm Incorporated Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108493r03, merging S2-2108841. Approved Agreed
8.14 S2-2108841 CR Approval 23.273 CR0199R1 (Rel-17, 'B'): Addition of a Scheduled Location Time Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107681 from S2#147E. Merged into S2-2109106 Stephen (Qualcomm) provides comments
Åke (Ericsson) Support comment from Qualcomm.
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Runze (Huawei) proposes to merge the CR into S2-2108493
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Merged
8.14 S2-2108750 CR Approval 23.273 CR0206 (Rel-17, 'F'): Editorial changes for eLCS_Ph2 CATT Rel-17 r03 agreed. Revised to S2-2109107. Åke (Ericsson) provides r01 and a question
Yunjing(CATT) replies to Åke (Ericsson).
Leo (Deutsche Telekom) provides comments on r01.
Yunjing (CATT) replies to Leo (Deutsche Telekom) and provides r02.
Leo (Deutsche Telekom) is fine with r02, thanks.
Yunjing (CATT) provides r03.
Åke (Ericsson) is fine with r03
Leo (Deutsche Telekom) is fine with r03
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Runze (Huawei) supports r03
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Revised
8.14 S2-2109107 CR Approval 23.273 CR0206R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Editorial changes for eLCS_Ph2 CATT, Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108750r03. Approved Agreed
8.14 S2-2108753 CR Approval 23.273 CR0209 (Rel-17, 'F'): Location Services applicable to SNPN(s) CATT, Ericsson Rel-17 r05 agreed. Revised to S2-2109108. Josep (DT) requests clarification(s). Not clear whether SNPN support clarification is needed.
Yunjing (CATT) replies to Josep (DT).
Josep (DT) comments, provides r01.
Yunjing (CATT) provides r02.
Josep (DT) comments that there are no requirements for integrating further functionality in the CH. Objects to r02.
Yunjing (CATT) replies to Josep (DT) and provides r03.
Josep (DT) provides r04.
Antoine (Orange) provides r05.
Walter Dees (Philips) provides r06
Yunjing (CATT) replies to Walter Dees (Philips)
Åke (Ericsson) Comments reply from Yunjing (CATT)
Walter Dees (Philips) responds to Yunjing (CATT)
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Josep (DT) objects to all revisions except r05
Yunjing (CATT) agrees with Åke (Ericsson).
Yunjing (CATT) replies to Walter Dees (Philips).
Yunjing (CATT) can accept r05.
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Revised
8.14 S2-2109108 CR Approval 23.273 CR0209R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Location Services applicable to SNPN(s) CATT, Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108753r05. Approved Agreed
8.14 S2-2108842 CR Approval 23.273 CR0218 (Rel-17, 'F'): Update AMF functionality for satellite access UE Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109109. Sherry (Xiaomi) provides r01.
Runze (Huawei) comments on r01, and prefers original CR.
Sherry (Xiaomi) prefers r01.
Runze (Huawei) can live with r01.
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8.14 S2-2109109 CR Approval 23.273 CR0218R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Update AMF functionality for satellite access UE Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108842r01. Approved Agreed
8.14 S2-2108999 LS In Action LS from RAN WG2: Response LS on Positioning Reference Units (PRUs) for enhancing positioning performance RAN WG2 (R2-2111488) Rel-17 Response drafted in S2-2109017. Final response in S2-2109104 Replied to
8.14 S2-2109017 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] Reply LS on Response LS on Positioning Reference Units (PRUs) for enhancing positioning performance Huawei Rel-17 Created at CC#1. Response to S2-2108999. r03 agreed. Revised to S2-2109104. Stephen (Qualcomm) provides comments and an r01
Runze (Huawei) provides r02.
Leo (Deutsche Telekom) provides r03.
Runze (Huawei) agrees r03.
Stephen (Qualcomm) can also agree the r03
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Stephen (Qualcomm) notes that r00 is not acceptable (in case there is an objection to other rev.s)
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Revised
8.14 S2-2109104 LS OUT Approval Reply LS on Response LS on Positioning Reference Units (PRUs) for enhancing positioning performance SA WG2 Rel-17 Revision of S2-2109017r03. Approved Approved
8.14 S2-2109003 LS In Information LS from RAN WG3: Reply LS to RAN2 on the misalignment in SRS configuration RAN WG3 (R3-216009) Rel-16 Noted Yunjing (CATT) proposes to note the LS.
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Runze (Huawei) proposes to note the LS.
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Noted
8.14 S2-2109011 LS In Action LS from RAN WG3: Reply LS on location estimates in local co-ordinates RAN WG3 (R3-216235) Rel-17 Noted Yunjing (CATT) proposes to note the LS.
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Runze (Huawei) proposes to note the LS.
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Noted
8.15 - - - Multimedia Priority Service (MPS) Phase 2 (MPS2) - - Docs:=0 -
8.16 - - - Dynamic management of group-based event monitoring (TEI17_GEM) - - Docs:=0 -
8.17 - - - N7/N40 Interfaces Enhancements to Support GERAN and UTRAN (TEI17_NIESGU) - - Docs:=4 -
8.17 S2-2108930 CR Approval 23.501 CR3455 (Rel-17, 'F'): Support of GERAN/UTRAN access: Annex L alignment to CR 2970r1 to TS 23.501 Vodafone Rel-17 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109312. Haris(Qualcomm) asks question for clarification
Chris (Vodafone) provides r1.
Haris(Qualcomm) comments that r01 is ok
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Revised
8.17 S2-2109312 CR Approval 23.501 CR3455R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Support of GERAN/UTRAN access: Annex L alignment to CR 2970r1 to TS 23.501 Vodafone Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108930r01. Approved Agreed
8.17 S2-2108932 CR Approval 23.502 CR3312 (Rel-17, 'F'): Support of GERAN/UTRAN access: Annex G alignment to CR 2970r1 to TS 23.501 Vodafone Rel-17 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109313. Haris(Qualcomm) asks question for clarification
Chris (Vodafone) provides r01
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8.17 S2-2109313 CR Approval 23.502 CR3312R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Support of GERAN/UTRAN access: Annex G alignment to CR 2970r1 to TS 23.501 Vodafone Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108932r01. Approved Agreed
8.18 - - - System enhancement for Redundant PDU Session (TEI17_SE_RPS) - - Docs:=0 -
8.19 - - - IMS Optimization for HSS Group ID in an SBA environment (TEI17_IMSGID) - - Docs:=0 -
8.20 - - - Support for Signed Attestation for Priority and Emergency Sessions (TEI17_SAPES) - - Docs:=0 -
8.21 - - - Dynamically Changing AM Policies in the 5GC (TEI17_DCAMP) - - Docs:=8 -
8.21 S2-2108266 LS In Action LS from CT WG3: LS on DCAMP related issues CT WG3 (C3-214425) Rel-17 Revision of S2-2107029 from S2#147E. Responses drafted in S2-2108343 and S2-2108585. Final response in S2-2109193 Belen (Ericsson) proposes to merge LS into S2-2108343
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8.21 S2-2108343 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] LS reply on DCAMP related issues Ericsson Rel-17 Response to S2-2108266. r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109193, merging S2-2108585 Pallab (Nokia) proposes to have the LSout discussion in this thread.
Belen (Ericsson) is okay to use this thread and ask Huawei and Nokia.
Belen (Ericsson) provides r01.
Susan (Huawei) is ok with r01.
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8.21 S2-2109193 LS OUT Approval LS reply on DCAMP related issues SA WG2 Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108343r01, merging S2-2108585. Approved Approved
8.21 S2-2108585 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] Reply LS on DCAMP related issues Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107480 from S2#147E. Response to S2-2108266. Merged into S2-2109193 Pallab (Nokia) suggests to move the LSOut discussion to a single email thread in S2-2108343.
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Merged
8.21 S2-2108338 CR Approval 23.501 CR3362 (Rel-17, 'F'): Align BSF NF profile in NRF (23.501) with BSF related information in NRF services (23.502) Oracle Rel-17 Approved Agreed
8.21 S2-2108586 CR Approval 23.502 CR3189R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction to AF-triggered dynamically changing AM policies Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107481 from S2#147E. r04 agreed. Revised to S2-2109194. Pallab (Nokia) comments and thinks that the proposed changes are not needed.
Susan (Huawei) replies to Pallab (Nokia).
Pallab (Nokia) responds to Susan (Huawei).
Belen (Ericsson) is okay with the CR.
Pallab (Nokia) responds to Belen (Ericsson)
Belen (Ericsson) asks for clarification.
Belen (Ericsson) replies.
Pallab (Nokia) comments.
Belen (Ericsson) replies to Nokia
Pallab (Nokia) responds to Belen (Ericsson).
Belen (Ericsson) replies to Nokia.
Pallab (Nokia) replies to Susan (Huawei).
Belen (Ericsson) is okay with r03.
Susan (Huawei) provides r04 with the only change on the cover sheet to add Oracle as supporting company.
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Revised
8.21 S2-2109194 CR Approval 23.502 CR3189R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction to AF-triggered dynamically changing AM policies Huawei, HiSilicon, Oracle Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108586r04. Approved Agreed
8.21 S2-2108587 CR Approval 23.503 CR0662R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction to AF-triggered dynamically changing AM policies Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of (Revised and Agreed) S2-2107482 from S2#147E. Noted Pallab (Nokia) has same comments as in 8586 and thinks that the proposed changes are not needed.
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Noted
8.22 - - - IP address pool information from UDM (TEI17_IPU) - - Docs:=0 -
8.23 - - - Same PCF selection for AMF and SMF (TEI17-SPSFAS) - - Docs:=0 -
8.24 - - - Support of different slices over different Non-3GPP access (TEI17_N3SLICE) - - Docs:=4 -
8.24 S2-2108731 CR Approval 23.501 CR3422 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on support of slicing in TWIF scenario Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109314. Stefan (Ericsson) provides r01
Marco (Huawei) ok with r01
Myungjune (LGE) comments
Myungjune (LGE) provides r02
Marco (Huawei) answers to Myungjune (LGE) and disagrees with r02
Myungjune (LGE) replies to Marco (Huawei)
Marco (Huawei) replies to Myungjune (LGE)
Stefan (Ericsson) comments
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Myungjune (LGE) prefer r02
Marco (Huawei) comment and R02 is ok
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Revised
8.24 S2-2109314 CR Approval 23.501 CR3422R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on support of slicing in TWIF scenario Huawei, HiSilicon, Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108731r02. Approved Agreed
8.24 S2-2108854 CR Approval 23.501 CR3440 (Rel-17, 'F'): Removal of a now obsolete sentence about non-3GPP Access being forbidden in a PLMN Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109315. Stefan (Ericsson) provides r01
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Revised
8.24 S2-2109315 CR Approval 23.501 CR3440R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Removal of a now obsolete sentence about non-3GPP Access being forbidden in a PLMN Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108854r01. Approved Agreed
8.25 - - - Minimization of Service Interruption (MINT) - - Docs:=20 -
8.25 S2-2108283 LS In Information LS from CT WG1: LS on system information extensions for minimization of service interruption (MINT) CT WG1 (C1-216297) Rel-17 Response drafted in S2-2108637. Noted Hyunsook (LGE) proposes to note this LS for information.
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Noted
8.25 S2-2108637 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] LS OUT on system information extensions for minimization of service interruption (MINT) Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Response to S2-2108283. Noted Hyunsook (LGE) proposes to note it.
Qian (Ericsson) supports to note this.
Haiyang (Huawei) responds.
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Noted
8.25 S2-2108371 CR Approval 23.501 CR3264R2 (Rel-17, 'F'): MINT Updates Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107848 from S2#147E. r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109316. Hyunsook (LGE) has a comment and proposes to note it in this meeting.
Haiyang (Huawei) agrees with Hyunsook (LGE) to note this paper in this meeting.
Qian (Ericsson) comments.
Haris(Qualcomm) provides r01
Hyunsook (LGE) provides r02.
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Hyunsook (LGE) can accept r01 (with CT1 CR dependency) and r02.
Qian (Ericsson) propose to go with r01.
Lalith(Samsung) OK with r01 or r02.
Haris(Qualcomm) propose to go with r01
Haiyang (Huawei) is OK with r02 or postpone, but not ok with r00/r01.
Qian (Ericsson) provides r03 in DRAFT folder on top of r01 with these changes: 1) 'after' -> 'during and after'. 2) delete 'in the roamed country' 3) Delete 'SOR' in cover sheet. 4) adding 'This CR is to synch with the agreement in C1-216752'. Qian also asks this to be handled in CC#2 with the above changes.
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Haiyang (Huawei) is OK with [r01+the updated part provided by Qian(Ericsson)].
Revised
8.25 S2-2109316 CR Approval 23.501 CR3264R3 (Rel-17, 'F'): MINT Updates Ericsson, LG Electronics Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108371r01. Approved Agreed
8.25 S2-2108372 CR Approval 23.502 CR3146R1 (Rel-17, 'C'): Registration procedure improvement for MINT Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107253 from S2#147E. r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109317. Hyunsook (LGE) proposes to note it in this meeting.
Haiyang (Huawei) agrees with Hyunsook (LGE) to note this paper.
Qian (Ericsson) comments.
Qian (Ericsson) provides r01.
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Hyunsook (LGE) can accept r01 only in case if S2-2108371r01 is agreed, otherwise, propose to postpone it.
Qian (Ericsson) propose to go with r01.
Haiyang (Huawei) is OK with r01.
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Revised
8.25 S2-2109317 CR Approval 23.502 CR3146R2 (Rel-17, 'C'): Registration procedure improvement for MINT Ericsson, LG Electronics Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108372r01. Approved Agreed
8.25 S2-2108373 CR Approval 23.502 CR3228 (Rel-17, 'C'): UE configuration procedure update and SoR update for MINT Ericsson Rel-17 r03 agreed. Revised to S2-2109318. Hyunsook (LGE) proposes to note it in this meeting.
Haiyang (Huawei) agrees with Hyunsook (LGE) to note this paper.
Qian (Ericsson) comments.
Lalith(Samsung) comments.
Qian (Ericsson) provides r01.
Lalith(Samsung) provides r02
Hyunsook (LGE) doesn't want to make a progress on this CR.
Haris(Qualcomm) comments on r01 and r02 and provides r03
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Hyunsook (LGE) can accept r03 only in case if S2-2108371r01 is agreed, otherwise, propose to postpone it.
Qian (Ericsson) propose to go with r03.
Lalith (Samsung) also propose to agree r03.
Haris(Qualcomm) propose to agree r03
Haiyang (Huawei) is OK with r03 but request the author to delete the SoR related description in the cover page if it is finally agreed.
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Revised
8.25 S2-2109318 CR Approval 23.502 CR3228R1 (Rel-17, 'C'): UE configuration procedure update for MINT Ericsson, LG Electronics Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108373r03. Approved Agreed
8.25 S2-2108440 CR Approval 23.502 CR3133R1 (Rel-17, 'B'): Authentication and Subscription information checking for Disaster Roaming service LG Electronics, KT Corp., LG Uplus, SK Telecom, Ericsson, vivo Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107160 from S2#147E. Postponed Haiyang (Huawei) suggests to postpone this paper.
Alessio(Nokia) is also OK to postpone this paper.
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Hyunsook (LGE) is O.K. to postpone it in this meeting.
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Postponed
8.25 S2-2108441 CR Approval 23.502 CR3236 (Rel-17, 'F'): Session management related subscription information during Disaster Roaming LG Electronics Rel-17 Postponed Haiyang (Huawei) suggests to postpone/note this paper.
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Hyunsook (LGE) is O.K. to postpone it in this meeting.
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Postponed
8.25 S2-2108555 CR Approval 23.501 CR3388 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on the pre-conditions for DC roaming Vivo Rel-17 Noted Hyunsook (LGE) proposes to note it
Wen (vivo) replies to Hyunsook (LGE)
Qian (Ericsson) comments
Wen (vivo) replies and provides r01
Hyunsook (LGE) provides r02.
Wen (vivo) replies.
Lalith(Samsung) objects r00, r02
Haris(Qualcomm) proposes to note the CR (r00 or r01)
alessio(nokia) also agrees it is wise to note the CR.
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Hyunsook (LGE) can accept only r02, and also o.k. to note this CR.
Qian (Ericsson) is ok with r02 or NOTE.
Wen (vivo) is ok with r02 as well.
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Noted
8.25 S2-2108556 CR Approval 23.501 CR3389 (Rel-17, 'F'): Handling of DC is no longer applicable Vivo Rel-17 r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109319. Lalith(Samsung) comments.
Wen(vivo) replies to Lalith(Samsung).
Lalith(Samsung) replies to Wen(Vivo)
Wen(vivo) replies and provides r01
Hyunsook (LGE) provides a comment on r01
Wen (vivo) replies and provides r02
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Hyunsook (LGE) can accept only r02.
Qian (Ericsson) is ok with r02.
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Revised
8.25 S2-2109319 CR Approval 23.501 CR3389R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Handling of DC is no longer applicable Vivo Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108556r02. Approved Agreed
8.25 S2-2108557 CR Approval 23.501 CR3390 (Rel-17, 'F'): Handling of preventing signalling overload Vivo Rel-17 Noted Hyunsook (LGE) proposes to note it
Wen (vivo) replies to Hyunsook (LGE)
Qian (Ericsson) comments
Wen (vivo) replies to Qian (Ericsson)
Hyunsook (LGE) still has a concern.
Wen (vivo) replies to Hyunsook (LGE) and provides r01.
Haris(Qualcomm) objects to the CR
alessio(Nokia) also objects to the CR
Wen (vivo) replies and provides r02
Hyunsook (LGE) provides a comment on r02
Hyunsook (LGE) replies.
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Hyunsook (LGE) objects r00 and all revisions.
Wen (vivo) is ok to be NOTED but still keep this concern which the PLMN providing DC service still broadcasts of providing DC service even if it is under congestion control, then make the DC UEs have high priority to access to this PLMN then be rejected by the network .
Qian (Ericsson) supports to NOTE the paper.
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Noted
8.25 S2-2108638 CR Approval 23.501 CR3407 (Rel-17, 'F'): Alignment on system information extensions for minimization of service interruption Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109320. Hyunsook (LGE) cheeked it has a conflict with S2-2107848 which was approved at SA2#147E.
Haiyang (Huawei) provides r01.
Qian (Ericsson) provides comments.
Hyunsook (LGE) provides a comment.
Haiyang (Huawei) provides some information to Qian (Ericsson).
Lalith(Samsung) comments.
Haiyang (Huawei) replies to Lalith(Samsung) that r01 does not change the parameter themselves.
Lalith(Samsung) objects r00 and is OK with r01
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Hyunsook (LGE) can accept r01, if agreed.
Qian (Ericsson) is ok with r01.
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Revised
8.25 S2-2109320 CR Approval 23.501 CR3407R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Alignment on system information extensions for minimization of service interruption Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108638r01. Approved Agreed
8.25 S2-2108639 CR Approval 23.501 CR3408 (Rel-17, 'F'): Emergency Services for Disaster Inbound Roamers Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 r03 agreed. Revised to S2-2109321. Hyunsook (LGE) provides r01.
Haiyang (Huawei) replies.
Qian (Ericsson) comments.
Haiyang (Huawei) replies and prefers r00.
Hyunsook (LGE) provides a comment.
Lalith (Samsung) comments.
Haris(Qualcomm) proposes to note the CR (all revisions)
Haiyang (Huawei) disagrees with Haris(Qualcomm) 's view
Haris(Qualcomm) comments
Lalith(Samsung) supports NOTE from Haris(Qualcomm)
Hyunsook (LGE) can agree to add new NOTE suggested by Haris.
Haiyang (Huawei) can live with the new note.
Qian (Ericsson) is also ok with the proposal adding a note.
Haiyang (Huawei) provides r02.
Hyunsook (LGE) provides r03 with cover page update and applying NOTE style.
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Hyunsook (LGE) can accept r03.
Qian (Ericsson) is ok with r03.
Haiyang (Huawei) is ok with r03.
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Revised
8.25 S2-2109321 CR Approval 23.501 CR3408R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Emergency Services for Disaster Inbound Roamers Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108639r03. Approved Agreed
8.25 S2-2108640 CR Approval 23.501 CR3409 (Rel-17, 'F'): Implicit Deregistration in the PLMN with Disaster Condition Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Noted Hyunsook (LGE) proposes to note it.
Haiyang (Huawei) clarifies.
Qian (Ericsson) comments and supports LGE's view.
Lalith(Samsung) shares view of Qian (Ericsson) and Hyunsook (LGE) and proposes to note.
Alessio(Nokia) also supports noting this CR.
Haris(Qualcomm) also proposes to note the CR
Haiyang (Huawei) is OK to note this CR.
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Noted
8.25 S2-2109019 LS In Action Reply LS on LS on MINT functionality for Disaster Roaming SA WG3 (S3-214342) Rel-17 Postponed Postponed
8.26 - - - Architecture Enhancement for NR Reduced Capability Devices (ARCH_NR_REDCAP) - - Docs:=5 -
8.26 S2-2108648 CR Approval 23.501 CR3316R1 (Rel-17, 'B'): EDRX enhancement for 10.24s cycle for RedCap China Mobile Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107554 from S2#147E. r04 agreed. Revised to S2-2109322, merging S2-2108940 Hannu (Nokia) provides r01 to merge the whole contents of S2-2108940 into this CR.
Qian (Ericsson) comments and provides r02.
Miguel (Qualcomm) ok with r02.
Aihua (China Mobile) provides r03.
Qian (Ericsson) comments on r03 and consider r02 is more correct.
Wanqiang (Huawei) comments and provides r04.
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Tricci (OPPO) supports r02 provided by Qian (Ericsson).
Revised
8.26 S2-2109322 CR Approval 23.501 CR3316R2 (Rel-17, 'B'): EDRX enhancement for 10.24s cycle for RedCap China Mobile, Qualcomm Inc Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108648r04, merging S2-2108940. Approved Agreed
8.26 S2-2108741 CR Approval 23.501 CR3324R2 (Rel-17, 'B'): Capabilities for NR RedCap UE Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107855 from S2#147E. Approved Qian (Ericsson) asks a question
Steve (Huawei) replies
Hannu (Nokia) supports approval of this revision for the sake of clarity (to send this clean version for plenary approval).
Miguel (Qualcomm) agrees this revision is needed for clean CR implementation of what was agreed last meeting, i.e. clause 5.6.1 is untouched.
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Agreed
8.26 S2-2108912 CR Approval 23.501 CR3454 (Rel-17, 'F'): RAT type determination on AMF for NR Redcap China Mobile Rel-17 Approved Agreed
8.26 S2-2108940 CR Approval 23.501 CR3457 (Rel-17, 'F'): Handling of PTW for eDRX = 10.24s Qualcomm Incorporated Rel-17 Merged into S2-2109322 Qian (Ericsson) propose to merge this into 8648
Hannu (Nokia) supports Qian's proposal to merge this into 8648 as there is one overlapping change.
Miguel (Qualcomm) ok to merge into 8648 to continue discussion in one thread and one CR.
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Merged
8.27 - - - Architecture support for NB-IoT/eMTC Non-Terrestrial Networks in EPS (IoT_SAT_ARCH_EPS) - - Docs:=18 -
8.27 S2-2108261 LS In Action LS on EPS support for IoT NTN in Rel-17 TSG RAN (RP-212617) Rel-17 Revision of S2-2107017 from S2#147E. Response drafted in S2-2108823. Final response in S2-2109344 Replied to
8.27 S2-2108823 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] Reply LS on EPS support for IoT NTN in Rel-17 MediaTek Inc. Rel-17 Response to S2-2108261. CC#2: r05 agreed. Revised to S2-2109344. Hannu (Nokia) points out the obvious for the comment feed, that this proposes LS Out cannot be evaluated before conclusion on all related CRs.
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Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) provides r01 in drafts.
Haris(Qualcomm) comments on r01 in DRAFTS and proposes additions
Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) provide r02 in drafts.
Tao(VC) check can we live with the proposal by Haris
Sherry (Xiaomi) replies.
Sherry (Xiaomi) provides r03 in the draft folder.
Jean Yves (Thales) supports r03.
Wanqiang (Huawei) prefer r02. R03 does not really reflect the status
Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) prefers r02
Jean Yves (Thales) is ok with r02 also.
Sherry (Xiaomi) comments and prefers r03.
Wanqiang (Huawei) think r03 is wrong, and we have to take r02.
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Sherry (Xiaomi) can't accept r02.
Sherry (Xiaomi) provides r04.
Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) comments
Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) provides r05 with the correct TDoc# (8823 not 8937). OK with r02, not r03/r04.
Chris (Vodafone) says that r05 looks good.
Sherry (Xiaomi) is fine with r05.
Hannu (Nokia) thanks Guillaume for the update and supports r05.
Revised
8.27 S2-2109344 LS OUT Approval Reply LS on EPS support for IoT NTN in Rel-17 SA WG2 Rel-17 CC#2: Revision of S2-2108823r05. Approved Approved
8.27 S2-2108271 LS In Action LS from RAN WG2: LS on supporting discontinuous coverage in IoT NTN RAN WG2 (R2-2109213) Rel-17 Revision of S2-2107047 from S2#147E. Postponed Postponed
8.27 S2-2108712 CR Approval 23.401 CR3673 (Rel-17, 'C'): Multiple TACs handling for IoT NTN OPPO Rel-17 Postponed DongYeon (Samsung) comments.
Haris(Qualcomm) proposes to postpone this CR to February SA2 meeting
Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) proposes to merge 8712 into 8824.
Jean Yves (Thales) comments on 8.11 & 8.27 synchronization and propose to postpone this CR.
Jingran (OPPO) is ok to postpone.
Stefan (Ericsson) supports to postpone
Sherry (Xiaomi) proposes to postpone this CR to align with the conclusion on the same issue under 8.11.
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Postponed
8.27 S2-2108742 CR Approval 23.401 CR3674 (Rel-17, 'C'): Support of discontinuous coverage in IoT NTN Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Postponed Haris(Qualcomm) comments
Stefan (Ericsson) provides comments
Wanqiang (Huawei) provides feedback on the technical issues
Chris (Vodafone) asks on technical issues
Sherry (Xiaomi) comments and prefers to study the issue in R18.
Hannu (Nokia) supports the proposal to postpone.
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Postponed
8.27 S2-2108743 CR Approval 23.682 CR0488 (Rel-17, 'C'): Support of discontinuous coverage in IoT NTN Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Postponed Haris(Qualcomm) comments
Stefan (Ericsson) provides comments
Sherry (Xiaomi) has the same comments as to 8742.
Hannu (Nokia) supports the proposal to postpone.
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Postponed
8.27 S2-2108744 CR Approval 23.271 CR0436R2 (Rel-17, 'B'): LCS enhancement for IoT NTN in EPS Huawei, HiSilicon, MediaTek Inc. Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2108026 from S2#147E. r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109195. Stefan (Ericsson) provides r01
Hannu (Nokia) asks why this EPS CR needs to be treated under NR satellite access WID and AI?
Stefan (Ericsson) used the wrong AI# in subject. Has been resent with correct AI#
Hannu (Nokia) prefers r01 but can also live with the original version of the CR.
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Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) ok with r01
Tyler (OTD) prefers r01
Steve (Huawei) is ok with r01.
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Revised
8.27 S2-2109195 CR Approval 23.271 CR0436R3 (Rel-17, 'B'): LCS enhancement for IoT NTN in EPS Huawei, HiSilicon, MediaTek Inc. Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108744r01. Approved Agreed
8.27 S2-2108745 CR Approval 23.682 CR0487R1 (Rel-17, 'B'): Support IoT NTN in EPS Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107624 from S2#147E. r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109196. Stefan (Ericsson) provides r01
Hannu (Nokia) asks why this EPS CR is moved to NR satellite access WI and AI?
Stefan (Ericsson) provides comments
Steve (Huawei) is ok with r01
Hannu (Nokia) agrees r01 but asks a question on the new sub clause title and EPS satellite access.
Chris provides r02 as editorial alignment of r01
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Guillaume (MediaTek): ok with r02.
Steve (Huawei) is ok with r02.
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Revised
8.27 S2-2109196 CR Approval 23.682 CR0487R2 (Rel-17, 'B'): Support IoT NTN in EPS Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108745r02. Approved Agreed
8.27 S2-2108784 CR Approval 23.203 CR1136R2 (Rel-17, 'B'): Support policy and QoS control for satellite access Huawei, HiSilicon, Qualcomm Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2108028 from S2#147E. Approved Agreed
8.27 S2-2108824 CR Approval 23.401 CR3663R2 (Rel-17, 'B'): Introduction of Satellite support for Cellular IoT MediaTek Inc., Deutsche Telekom, Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2108025 from S2#147E. r05 agreed. Revised to S2-2109197. Fei (OPPO) provides r01.
Stefan (Ericsson) provides r02
Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.): ok with r02
Sherry (Xiaomi) comments.
Hannu (Nokia) provides r03.
Hannu (Nokia) replies to Sherry on the indication of 'country'.
Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) provides r04.
Sherry (Xiaomi) replies to Hannu.
Haris(Qualcomm) provides r05
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Guillaume (MediaTek): ok with r05
Steve (Huawei) is ok with r05.
Sherry (Xiaomi) is ok with r05.
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Revised
8.27 S2-2109197 CR Approval 23.401 CR3663R3 (Rel-17, 'B'): Introduction of Satellite support for Cellular IoT MediaTek Inc., Deutsche Telekom, Huawei, HiSilicon, Nokia. Nokia Shanghai Bell, Ericsson Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108824r05. Approved Agreed
8.27 S2-2108825 WID REVISED Approval Revised WID: 'Architecture support for NB-IoT/eMTC Non-Terrestrial Networks in EPS' [IoT_SAT_ARCH_EPS]. MediaTek Inc. Rel-17 r03 agreed. Revised to S2-2109198. Hannu (Nokia) provides r01 of the WID.
Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) replies to Hannu (Nokia).
Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) provides r01 in the rev folder
Haris(Qualcomm) proposes WID revision in DRAFTS
Stefan (Ericsson) provides r02 in rev folder
Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) provides r03
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Revised
8.27 S2-2109198 WID REVISED Approval Revised WID: 'Architecture support for NB-IoT/eMTC Non-Terrestrial Networks in EPS' [IoT_SAT_ARCH_EPS]. MediaTek Inc. Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108825r03. Approved Approved
8.27 S2-2108937 CR Approval 23.401 CR3667R1 (Rel-17, 'C'): Support for IoT NTN with discontinuous coverage Vodafone, MediaTek Inc., Sateliot, Novamint Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107723 from S2#147E. r04 agreed. Revised to S2-2109199. Haris(Qualcomm) objects to the CR
Vodafone (Chris) answers the technical questions from Qualcomm
Haris(Qualcomm) provides further comments
Sherry(Xiaomi) comments
Hannu (Nokia) responds to Haris and supports this CR.
Chris (Vodafone) answers the Xiaomi comments
Haris(Qualcomm) comments
Haris(Qualcomm) provides r02
Sherry(Xiaomi) provides r03.
Chris (Vodafone) provides r04.
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Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) supports r04
Jean Yves (Thales) supports r04
Sherry (Xiaomi) supports r04
Haris(Qualcomm) is ok with r04
Wanqiang (Huawei) is ok with r04 as progress
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Revised
8.27 S2-2109199 CR Approval 23.401 CR3667R2 (Rel-17, 'C'): Support for IoT NTN with discontinuous coverage Vodafone, MediaTek Inc., Sateliot, Novamint Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108937r04. Approved Agreed
8.28 - - - Rel-17 CAT B/C alignment CR(s) due to the work led by other 3GPP Working Groups - - Docs:=19 -
8.28 S2-2108280 LS In Action LS on Slice list and priority information for cell reselection CT WG1 (C1-216256) Rel-17 CC#2: Postponed Postponed
8.28 S2-2108996 LS In Action Reply LS on Slice list and priority information for cell reselection RAN WG2 (R2-2111310) Rel-17 Response drafted in S2-2109016. Postponed Postponed
8.28 S2-2109016 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] Reply LS on Slice list and priority information for cell reselection China Mobile Rel-17 Created at CC#1. Response to S2-2108996. CC#2: The related CRs were not agreed and this LS was noted. Dan (China Mobile) provides LS in revision folder
alessio(Nokia) provides revision 01
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides r02.
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Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) suggests to keep this open as it is dependent on the conflicting CRs
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8.28 S2-2109012 LS In Action LS from RAN WG3: LS on Clarification of SCG outside RA for slicing RAN WG3 (R3-216237) Rel-17 Postponed Postponed
8.28 S2-2108471 CR Approval 23.501 CR3317R1 (Rel-17, 'B'): Enabling slice priority and slice groups for RRM purposes Ericsson, China Mobile Rel-17 Revision of (Noted) S2-2107556 from S2#147E. Noted Alessio(Nokia) as already commented for the document S2-2108798 we suggest to postpone handling of priority topic to eNS_Ph3, cannot accept the approach in this CR.
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides comments
Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) comments and asks for misc. clarification.
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) comments.
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides r01
Dan(China Mobile) comments.
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides r02
Dan (China Mobile) provides reply to Guillaume
Alessio(Nokia) sees no rush to approve CRs at this meeting.in particular the topic of priority is contentious for this release (some see it contentious even for rel-18 I have just seen !)
Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) responds to Peter (Ericsson) and provide r03
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides r04
Dongeun (Samsung) provides r05
Alessio(Nokia) proposes to merge this in 8845 that only covers the group assignment topic. it is not feasible to agree on priority discussion in this release.
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alessio(Nokia) objects to any CR including priority topic
Guillaume (MediaTek) proposed to postpone or note this CR (and 8845)
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides reply to Dongeun (Samsung) and do not think there is a need for separate list of groups per TA as in r05.
Dongeun (Samsung) provides reply to Peter (Ericsson)
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) proposes to postpone or note this CR as per previous comment.
Dan (China Mobile) propose we should work on this and try to get some conclusoin in R17
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8.28 S2-2108618 DISCUSSION Agreement Discussion on the Granularity of Slice Groups for Cell Re-selection. Samsung Rel-17 Noted Noted
8.28 S2-2108620 CR Approval 23.502 CR3264 (Rel-17, 'B'): Support Slice group for cell re-selection Samsung Rel-17 Noted Peter (Ericsson) provides comments and propose we should cover both group aspects and the priority handling
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) comments.
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Peter Hedman (Ericsson) object to any CR that only covers slice grouping and not the priority handling
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) proposes to postpone or note this CR as per previous comment.
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8.28 S2-2108781 CR Approval 23.501 CR3427 (Rel-17, 'B'): Support Slice group for cell re-selection Samsung Rel-17 Noted Peter (Ericsson) provides comments and propose we should cover both group aspects and the priority handling
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) comments.
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Peter Hedman (Ericsson) object to any CR that only covers slice grouping and not the priority handling
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) proposes to postpone or note this CR as per previous comment.
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8.28 S2-2108764 CR Approval 23.501 CR3424 (Rel-17, 'F'): Slice Group ID Management Huawei Rel-17 Noted Peter (Ericsson) provides comments and propose we should cover both group aspects and the priority handling
Alessio(Nokia) this is not far apart from what we proposes and suggests to merge this into S2-2108845
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) comments.
Haiyang (Huawei) is ok to merge into S2-2108845
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8.28 S2-2108765 CR Approval 23.502 CR3286 (Rel-17, 'F'): Slice Group ID management Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Noted Peter (Ericsson) provides comments and propose we should cover both group aspects and the priority handling
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) comments.
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Peter Hedman (Ericsson) object to any CR that only covers slice grouping and not the priority handling
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) proposes to postpone or note this CR as per previous comment.
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8.28 S2-2108798 CR Approval 23.502 CR3194R1 (Rel-17, 'B'): Support of slice priority and slice group information for cell (re)selection China Mobile Rel-17 Revision of (Noted) S2-2107535 from S2#147E. Noted Dan (China Mobile) provides r01
Alessio(Nokia) comments and suggest to postpone handling of priority topic to eNS_Ph3, cannot accept r01 nor r00 and proposes to merge into S2-2108866
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) comments.
Dan (China Mobile) provide r02
Alessio(Nokia) sees no rush to approve CRs at this meeting.in particular the topic of priority is contentious for this release (some see it contentious even for rel-18 I have just seen !)
Dan (China Mobile) provide r03 with removing Allowed NSSAI related parameters
Dongeun (Samsung) provides r04. This is an 23.502 alignment with 23.501 CR (8471r05)
alessio(Nokia) proposes to merge this into the nokia et al CR in S2-2108866 which is addressing only the group aspect. we prefer to note this one
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alessio(Nokia) objects to any CR revision including priority topic
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8.28 S2-2108943 CR Approval 23.501 CR3319R2 (Rel-17, 'B'): Support for Paging Early Indication Qualcomm Inc. Rel-17 Revision of (Revised and Agreed) S2-2107584 from S2#147E. Merged into S2-2109339 Hannu (Nokia) comments proposes to merge the agreeable parts of this CR to S2-2108959.
Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) proposed to merge 8943 in 8959
Miguel (Qualcomm) responds to Hannu
Miguel (Qualcomm) ok to merge in S2-2108959
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8.28 S2-2108959 CR Approval 23.501 CR3319R3 (Rel-17, 'B'): Support for Paging Early Indication Vodafone [rev 1 was MediaTek Inc., Qualcomm Inc., OPPO, Apple, Ericsson, Huawei, HiSilicon] Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107857 from S2#147E. r08 agreed. Revised to S2-2109339, merging S2-2108943 Qian (Ericsson) provides comments and asks questions
Hannu (Nokia) provides r01 and proposes to take this CR as the template for further work.
Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) provides r02.
Chris (Vodafone) answers Ericsson.
Qian (Ericsson) provides comments and r03
Tricci (OPPO) provides r04 to add an EN to clarify that the support for the paging probability info is subject to RAN2 agreement.
Chris (Vodafone) provides r05 in order to avoid this feature INCREASING UE power consumption.
Qian (Ericsson) comments on r05 and express concerns.
Steve (Huawei) comments
Chris (Vodafone) answers Ericsson and Huawei.
Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) provides r06 (pls ignore) and r07
Qian (Ericsson) comments on provides r07.
Qian (Ericsson) indicates that r08 is provided (instead of r07 as in previous comment).
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As a basis for further work Chris (Vodafone) can accept r08 with the cover sheet tidied up to remove the 'r03 updates...'
Miguel (Qualcomm) is ok with r08.
Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) provides r09 in drafts - basic clean-ups.
Steve (Huawei) is ok with r08 + coversheet clean-up.
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Hannu (Nokia) request this for CC and asks whether there was any discussion on re-inserting the UE assistance info (in the form of paging assistance data) since r01?
Chris (Vodafone) answers Nokia.
Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) confirms the paging probability information was indeed discussed explicitly before yesterday's deadline and was not rediscussed today. An EN was added by Tricci/Oppo.
Hannu (Nokia) thanks Chris and Guillaume for their explanation on the UE provided paging probability topic.
Tricci (OPPO) thanks Guillaume (MediaTek) great work for the merge and clarifications.
Tricci (OPPO) can support r08 + coversheet clean-up.
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8.28 S2-2109339 CR Approval 23.501 CR3319R4 (Rel-17, 'B'): Support for Paging Early Indication MediaTek Inc., Qualcomm Inc., OPPO, Apple, Ericsson, Huawei, HiSilicon, Vodafone, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108959r08, merging S2-2108943. Approved Agreed
8.28 S2-2108944 CR Approval 23.502 CR3216R2 (Rel-17, 'B'): Support of Paging subgrouping Qualcomm Incorporated Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107858 from S2#147E. CC#2: This was left for further update for decision at CC#3. CC#3: Postponed Hannu (Nokia) proposes to note this CR.
Miguel (Qualcomm) responds to Hannu, prefers to keep open and dependent on the 23.501 discussion, e.g. S2-2108959
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8.28 S2-2108866 CR Approval 23.502 CR3300 (Rel-17, 'B'): Enabling configuration of Network Slice AS Groups Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Noted Peter (Ericsson) provides comments and propose we should cover both group aspects and the priority handling
Jinhua(Xiaomi) provides r01,
Dongeun (Samsung) provides r02
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) comments.
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides comments
Alessio(Nokia) can live with r02
Jinhua(Xiaomi) provides r03,
Alessio(Nokia) thanks Jinhua(Xiaomi) who provided r03, which is acceptable to us.
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Peter Hedman (Ericsson) object to any CR that only covers slice grouping and not the priority handling
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) proposes to postpone or note this CR as per previous comment.
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8.28 S2-2108845 CR Approval 23.501 CR3436 (Rel-17, 'B'): Enabling configuration of Network Slice AS Groups Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-17 Noted Peter (Ericsson) provides comments and propose we should cover both group aspects and the priority handling
Dongeun (Samsung) provides comments
Alessio(Nokia) this is moved to AI#8.28
Alessio(Nokia) despite it is in 8.28, I can reply to Dongeun (Samsung) that we are happy to consider enhancements to cover the per TA granularity.
Dongeun (Samsung) provides r01 and comments
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) comments.
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides comments
Alessio(Nokia) would then be ok to postpone this to rel-18 as the topic of priority is contentious for this release (some see it contentious even for rel-18I have just seen !)
Alessio(nokia) can live with r01
Haiyang (Huawei) provides r02
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Jinhua(Xiaomi) prefer r02, agree with Haiyang,
Guillaume (MediaTek) proposed to note or postpone this CR
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) object to any CR that only covers slice grouping and not the priority handling
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) proposes to postpone or note this CR as per previous comment.
alessio(Nokia) replies and would welcome a change of heart by Mediatek
Genadi (Lenovo) supports the r02.
Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) replies
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Tricci (OPPO) supports the r02 to align with RAN2 conclusions.
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8.28 S2-2108259 LS In Action LS from RAN WG2: Reply LS on Cell reselection with band-specific network slices RAN WG2 (R2-2108868) Rel-17 Revision of S2-2107011 from S2#147E. Noted Tao(VC) suggest to NOTE this LS suppose this has been acknowledged after 3 meetings.
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8.28 S2-2109371 LS In Action LS from RAN WG2: LS on paging subgrouping and PEI RAN WG2 (R2-2111415) Rel-17 Postponed Steve (Huawei) Suggests postponing.
Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) agrees this should be postponed.
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9 - - - Project Planning and Managemen - - Docs:=0 -
9.1 - - - New and Revised Work Items, TS/TR Cover sheets, Exception Sheets - - Docs:=0 -
9.1.1 - - - Rel-17 new and revised Work Items - - Docs:=1 -
9.1.1 S2-2108417 WID NEW Approval New WID on 5G Architecture Enhancements for RAN Slicing for NR. China Mobile Rel-17 Revision of (Noted) S2-2107273 from S2#147E. Noted Alessio(Nokia) expects we do not need a new WID, soe we can note this. We can reuse eNS_Ph2 WID and update it to cover alignment with NR_Slice-Core RAN WI as an objective. this can be an updated WID for SA#94 the rapporteur or another company can submit.
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Dan(China Mobile) OK to note this wid and we can try to update the eNS_Ph2 WID in SA plenary.
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9.1.2 - - - TS/TR Cover sheets - - Docs:=0 -
9.1.3 - - - Revision of Rel-18 SID/WID proposal POSTPONED at SA2#147E - - Docs:=56 -
9.1.3 S2-2108369 SID NEW Approval New SID: Study on enhanced support of NR RedCap with long eDRX for RRC INACTIVE State. Ericsson, Deutsche Telekom, Verizon, Xiaomi, Sony, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, MediaTek, AT&T, Apple, Qualcomm, Vodafone, InterDigital, China Mobile. Rel-18 r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109323. Jinsook (DISH Network) provides r01.
Qian (Ericsson) comments that r01 is not uploaded by rapporteur and rapporteur will upload a new revision with more supporting companies.
Hannu (Nokia) supports r01 as reasonable clarification of the wording and looks forward to the rapporteur version.
Qian (Ericsson) comments and provides r02 on top of r01.
Wanqiang (Huawei) ok with r02.
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Lars (Sony) ok with r02.
Sherry (Xiaomi) is fine with r02 and using TR for the study.
Jinsook (DISH Network) is also fine with r02 and using TR.
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Hannu (Nokia) can live with his own r01 but prefers subsequent r02
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9.1.3 S2-2109323 SID NEW Approval New SID: Study on enhanced support of NR RedCap with long eDRX for RRC INACTIVE State. Ericsson, Deutsche Telekom, Verizon, Xiaomi, Sony, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, MediaTek, AT&T, Apple, Qualcomm, Vodafone, InterDigital, China Mobile, OPPO, DISH Network. Rel-18 Revision of S2-2108369r02. Approved Approved
9.1.3 S2-2108370 DISCUSSION Agreement Discussion on NR RedCap with long eDRX in RRC Inactive SID handling and summary of the reviewed solutions. Ericsson Rel-18 Noted Hannu (Nokia) requests that whichever way the candidate solutions are documented, SA2 must leave a quotable document on the conclusions.
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) also prefers a TR.
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9.1.3 S2-2108379 WID NEW Approval New WID on Use of L4S in 5GS (5G_L4S) . Ericsson Rel-18 CC#3: 5 objections. Noted Hui (Huawei) objects r00 and provides r01.
Youngkyo(Samsung) provides some questions for understanding.
Hui (Huawei) objects r00, provides draft r01.
Hucheng (CATT) comments.
Paul (Ericsson) replies to Hui (Huawei).
Paul (Ericsson) replies to Youngkyo(Samsung) and Hucheng (CATT).
Hui (Huawei) replies to Paul (Ericsson).
Youngkyo(Samsung) provides further comment and question.
Antoine (Orange) supports r00 i.e a Study is not needed.
Curt (Charter) supports Antoine (Orange)
Jinguo (ZTE) supports to have study first
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) also supports original WID, i.e. no study is needed.
Paul (Ericsson) replies to Youngkyo(Samsung).
Sriram (CableLabs) supports original WID, i.e. no study is needed.
Devaki (Nokia) supports L4S as a WID (r00) to keep the work focused.
Krisztian (Apple) supports r00, there's no need to convert this into a SID.
Youngkyo(Samsung) replies.
Paul (Ericsson) replies to Jinguo (ZTE).
Jinguo(ZTE) replies
Patrice (Huawei) reminds that the argument for a direct WID only works when there is a complete WG consensus on the proposed solution, and therefore a SID is the only appropriate approach in this case. And even if there were a full consensus on the exact solution (which is not the case), this should be then dealt as a TEI18, therefore not part of the agenda at this meeting.
Yali (OPPO) comments and shares the view from Jinguo(ZTE).
Paul (Ericsson) replies to Youngkyo (Samsung).
Paul (Ericsson) replies to Jinguo (ZTE) and Yali (OPPO).
Yali (OPPO) replies to Paul (Ericsson).
Paul (Ericsson) replies to Yali (OPPO).
Paul (Ericsson) thanks Huawei for the lesson on how it works, maybe we can help your understanding that since there is no full consensus as you say on details, that is why it is a WI.
Patrice (Huawei) thanks Paul (Ericsson) on his compliment regarding the lesson on how it works, and clarifies that since there is no full consensus (and not on details only), that is why it has to be a SID.
Gerry (Verizon) supports r00 and we also do not see the need for a study.
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Farooq (AT&T) also supports r00 and we also do not see the need for a study.
Jinsook (DISH Network) We also support original WID, no need any study phase.
Serge M (T-Mobile USA) also supports r00 and we also do not see the need for a study.
Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) supports r00
Paul (Ericsson) provides a proposal. This feature has been discussed since 2 years now, in that time its specification in IETF also further matured. L4S is becoming well established in the industry and a there is a high interest for its introduction in 3GPP. The WID has a clear and well defined scope and a wide support in SA2 to be progressed in Rel-18. Given all technical comments and questions being addressed, we propose to approve this Rel-18 WID r00 at this meeting.
Jinguo(ZTE) asks why UE is excluded to support L4S?
Lars (Sony) also supports r00
Hui (Huawei) insists that a study item is needed..
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Shabnam (Ericsson) asks to discuss at CC#2 to find a reasonable way forward, for a mature technology with nothing to study but reflect how 3GPP system can enable this feature option, reusing 3GPP existing architecture and mechanism.
Paul (Ericsson) provides r01 to the CC#2.
Hui(Huawei) disagree with r01 provided by Paul.
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9.1.3 S2-2108463 SID NEW Approval New SID: Study on enhanced support of Non-Public Networks phase 2. Ericsson, Futurewei, Convida Wireless, Charter, China Unicom, ETRI; Cisco, China Mobile, Lenovo, Motorola Mobility, Qualcomm, ZTE, Philips, Intel, Matrixx, SHARP, InterDigital, LG Electronics, NEC, Samsung, OPPO, T-Mobile USA, NICT Rel-18 CC#3: r05 agreed. Revised to S2-2109353. Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides r01
Sebastian (Qualcomm) comments
Curt (Charter) comments
Qianghua (Huawei) provides comments
Saso (Intel) comments
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides replies.
Marco (Huawei) comments
Marco (Huawei) answers to Curt (Charter) comment
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides r02
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) comments.
Hualin(Huawei) have similar comments as Sebastian (Qualcomm) to go back to 'non-3GPP'
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Sebastian (Qualcomm) objects to r00 - r02 for reasons given earlier
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides reply and ok to change back objective 2 as proposed, r03 in draft folder
Rainer (Nokia) comments.
Sebastian (Qualcomm) is ok with r03 in draft folder
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Jarmo (KPN) would like to support the study.
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides r05 (and r04) in CC#3 folder
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9.1.3 S2-2109353 SID NEW Approval New SID: Study on enhanced support of Non-Public Networks phase 2. Ericsson, Futurewei, Convida Wireless, Charter, China Unicom, ETRI; Cisco, China Mobile, Lenovo, Motorola Mobility, Qualcomm, ZTE, Philips, Intel, MATRIXX Software, SHARP, InterDigital, LG Electronics, NEC, Samsung, OPPO, T-Mobile USA, NICT, DISH Network, vivo, KPN, CableLabs Rel-18 Revision of S2-2108463r05. Approved Approved
9.1.3 S2-2108518 DISCUSSION Information Discussion paper on Network & Computing Power integration China Telecom Revision of (Noted) S2-2107563 from S2#147E. Noted Laurent (Nokia): proposes to Note this discussion paper (objects to it) and to concentrate on the SID discussion
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9.1.3 S2-2108519 SID NEW Approval New SID on Study on integration of network and computing power in 5GS . China Telecom Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107562 from S2#147E. Noted Guliang (Inspur) support the SID and would like to co-source it.
Laurent (Nokia): expresses serious concerns
Haris(Qualcomm) objects to this SID
Saso (Intel) objects to this SID
Shabnam (Ericsson) shares same view as expressed during MED and similar to Intel, Qualcomm, Nokia, as such objects to this SI.
Jungshin (Samsung) objects to this SID..
Yifan (China Telecom) provides r01.
Laurent (Nokia): objects to any version of this SID
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Yifan (China Telecom) replies.
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9.1.3 S2-2108529 SID NEW Approval New SID on Study on Support of Satellite Backhauling in 5GS . CATT Rel-18 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107429 from S2#147E. CC#3: r04 agreed. Revised to S2-2109354. Stefan (Ericsson) provides comments and a revision in DRAFTS
Haris(Qualcomm)
Wanqiang (Huawei) provides a revision in DRAFTS
Hucheng (CATT) responds to the comments.
Hannu (Nokia) comments that the original version is definitely not acceptable and may come back with comments on the proposed revisions later.
Hucheng (CATT) provides r01 based on the draft revisions from Ericsson, Qualcomm and Huawei.
Leo (Deutsche Telekom) provides comments.
Hucheng (CATT) replies to Leo (Deutsche Telekom).
Hannu (Nokia) shares Leo's concern on charging.
Hucheng (CATT) clarifies the charging aspect to Hannu (Nokia).
Hucheng (CATT) provides r02 based on the comments.
Hannu (Nokia) provides revision in drafts area and asks question on the justification for WT#4.
Hucheng (CATT) thanks for Hannu's revision and clarifies the use cases for WT#4.
Stefan (Ericsson) comments and provided a revision in DRAFTS
Leo (Deutsche Telekom) comments
Hucheng (CATT) replies to Stefan (Ericsson)'s comments and provided r03.
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Haris(Qualcomm) comments
Hucheng (CATT) replies to Haris(Qualcomm)
Hucheng (CATT) replies to Leo.
Hucheng (CATT) replies to Stefan (Ericsson) and points out that there is a SA1 requirement related to limited bandwidth.
Hucheng (CATT) replies to Haris(Qualcomm) and provides r04 and r05 into draft folder, but prefer r04.
Wanqiang (Huawei) prefers r04.
Haris(Qualcomm) is ok with either r04 or r05
Jean Yves (Thales) ok also with either r04 or r05
Stefan (Ericsson) prefers r05
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Hannu (Nokia) prefers r05
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9.1.3 S2-2109354 SID NEW Approval New SID on Study on Support of Satellite Backhauling in 5GS . CATT Rel-18 Revision of S2-2108529r04. Approved Approved
9.1.3 S2-2108543 DISCUSSION Discussion The Discussion on the motivation of Passive IoT China Mobile Rel-18 Revision of (Noted) S2-2107559 from S2#147E. Noted Hannu (Nokia) comments that since the corresponding SA1 SID is not approved and it's targeting Rel-19, it is not possible to plan the SA2 work in Rel-18.
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9.1.3 S2-2108573 DISCUSSION Information Moderated email discussion on FS_GMEC. Huawei/Samsung (moderator) Rel-18 Noted Noted
9.1.3 S2-2108574 SID NEW Approval New SID on generic group management, exposure and communication enhancements. Huawei, HiSilicon, Samsung, CATT, China Mobile, China Telecom, China Unicom, ZTE, Juniper, SK Telecom, KT Corp, LG Uplus, KPN, Siemens, Robert Bosch GmbH, LGE, Spreadtrum Communications, ETRI, CAICT, China Southern Power Grid, CEPRI, CBN, SIA Rel-18 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2108163 from S2#147E. CC#3: r09 was agreed. Revised to S2-2109355. Antoine (Orange) provides r01.
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) agrees with Orange's comment on WT1.2 and in addition comments.
Stefan (Ericsson) provides comments and questions
Qianghua (Huawei) replies
Sebastian (Qualcomm) provides revision in drafts folder
Rainer (Nokia) comments.
Qianghua (Huawei) provides r02 and responses
Rainer (Nokia) proposes updates to WT1.1 and WT1.2.
Stefan (Ericsson) provides replies
Qianghua (Huawei) provides r03 and responses
Qianghua (Huawei) provides r04
Sebastian (Qualcomm) provides r07 in drafts/GMEC
Rainer (Nokia) replies and prefers to split the SI in two parts.
Rainer (Nokia) replies, cannot accept removing of WT1.1 sub-bullet.
Stefan (Ericsson) also prefers separate studies on group management and traffic handling aspects, as was commented already last SA2 meeting
Qianghua (Huawei) replies and provide r05, and proposes that we follow the summary and way proposal resulting from MED progress
Sebastian (Qualcomm) replies to Nokia and Huawei
Qianghua (Huawei) provides r06
Sebastian (Qualcomm) comments on r05
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Rainer (Nokia) cannot accept r06.
Sebastian (Qualcomm) objects to any revision that includes the WT '- create/modify/delete groups for other purposes besides group communication' because there is nothing to be done except from some Edge scenario, which overlaps with a WT in the already approved Edge SID
Sang-Jun (Samsung) prefers not to split, and reminds Rainer (Nokia) that the MED already showed 15 of 18 companies prefer not to split.
Chi (China Unicom) prefers not to split as CUC has shown the opinion during the MED.
Heng (China Telecom) prefers not to split.
Wonjung (LG Uplus) prefers not to split.
Patrice (Huawei) comments regarding the relation with Edge computing ph2 work.
DongJin Lee (SK Telecom) prefers not to split.
Sebastian (Qualcomm) replies to Patrice; objects to r00-r06, provides r07 in drafts/GMEC
Stefan (Ericsson) comments again on WT#4 artificially restricted to 5G VN and provides update in DRAFTS
Qianghua (Huawei) provides r08draft in DRAFTS
Sebastian (Qualcomm) comments that r08draft in DRAFTS is ok
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Qianghua (Huawei) provides r09 in DRAFTS, only change on r08draft is 'Enhance group attribute management'
Qianghua (Huawei) proposes to take r09 in DRAFTS in CC#2 for confirmation
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9.1.3 S2-2109355 SID NEW Approval New SID on generic group management, exposure and communication enhancements. Huawei, HiSilicon, Samsung, CATT, China Mobile, China Telecom, China Unicom, ZTE, Juniper, SK Telecom, KT Corp, LG Uplus, KPN, Siemens, Robert Bosch GmbH, LGE, Spreadtrum Communications, ETRI, CAICT, China Southern Power Grid, CEPRI, CBN, SIA, DISH Network, Volkswagen AG, Quectel Rel-18 Revision of S2-2108574r09. Approved Approved
9.1.3 S2-2108575 SID NEW Approval Study on Interworking of Non-3GPP Multicast and Broadcast Networks with 3GPP 5G System. Saankhya Labs, Ligado Networks, ONE Media 3.0, Fraunhofer IIS, CEWiT, Tejas Networks, IIT Bombay, IIT Kanpur, IIT Madras, IIT Hyderabad, IIT Kharagpur Rel-18 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107129 from S2#147E. CC#3: Noted Antoine (Orange) asks what kind of impacts to UICC apps are envisionned.
Anindya Saha (SaankhyaLabs) responds to the Question on 'Elaboration of what kind of impacts to UICC apps are envisioned?'
Miguel (Qualcomm) has concerns with this SID, that the service requirements are not clear, there is no SA1 related work.
Stefan (Ericsson) comments that stage 1 requirements are missing
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) we share the concerns expressed by Qualcomm and Ericsson.
Thomas (Nokia) also shares the concerns expressed by Qualcomm and Ericsson.
Comments that objectives read like TR working procedures and would also require improvements
First objective reads like stage 1 work
Wanqiang (Huawei) shares the same concern, and on this non-3GPP multicast and broadcast integration to 5GC, we need more broad requirement level discussion first to consolidate what 3GPP can offer.
Anindya Saha (SaankhyaLabs) responds to the concerns raised by Stefan (Ericsson), Miguel (Qualcomm), Dieter (Deutsche Telekom), Thomas (Nokia) and Wanqiang (Huawei).
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Anindya Saha (SaankhyaLabs) observes that the requirements and use cases for multicast/broadcast services as captured in 3GPP stage 1 document TS 22.261, TS 22.101, and TS 22.246 already allow for Interworking of non-3GPP satellite networks and non-3GPP DTT networks with 5GS.
Miguel (Qualcomm) objects to this SID
Stefan (Ericsson) objects to SID and restates concerns
Anindya Saha (SaankhyaLabs) seeks detailed clarifications to the objections from Miguel (Qualcomm), and Stefan (Ericsson) citing sections from as captured in 3GPP stage 1 documents TS 22.261 which clearly mention non-3GPP Access for Satellite Communication.
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) objects to SID and replies to Anindya Saha (SaankhyaLabs).
Clive Packer, Ligado Networks

Services such as Firmware-Over-The-Air (FOTA) might be delivered very efficiently via satellite broadcast due to the pervasive coverage provided by it. Another example of a service that may be considered part of critical infrastructure is satellite delivery of augmentation services for high precision GNSS; this is already part of the planning for automated driving in the future. Multimode, satellite-terrestrial delivery of such services is likely to optimize both the cost and the geographic coverage of such services. Apparently, there is no plan in 3GPP as yet to issue standards for satellite multicast/broadcast over NBIoT and eMTC air interfaces until Release 3GPP 18. Until such services are launched, FOTA & GNSS augmentation (mentioned as examples) could be carried over a multimode 3GPP-cellular/non-3GPP-satellite broadcast network, at least as a gap filler. Therefore, it would be helpful for 3GPP to enable the proposed work.
Anindya Saha (SaankhyaLabs) responds to objections raised by Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) and observes that the TS22.261 (3GPP Stage 1 Requirements) has been misunderstood with respect to the proposed SID objectives.
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Pranav (IIT Bombay) supports the SID and replies to Dieter (Deutsche
Telekom)
Anindya Saha (SaankhyaLabs) provides a revision r01 of the SID based on the comments received.
Anindya Saha (SaankhyaLabs) provides a revision r02 of the SID and seeks feedback.
Anindya Saha (SaankhyaLabs) provides a revision r03 of the SID and seeks feedback.
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9.1.3 S2-2108594 SID NEW Approval New Study on enhancement of support for Separation and Isolation of NF and data in 5GC. China Telecom Rel-18 Noted Haris(Qualcomm) comments that the scope of this SID remains unclear and provides justification
Rainer (Nokia) comments, asking for clarification.
Yubing (China Telecom) replies to Haris (Qualcomm), Rainer (Nokia) and provides r01.
Saso (Intel) thinks that this proposal should be considered for SA3.
Saso (Intel) objects to this SID.
Rainer (Nokia) agrees with Intel to note the SI.
Yubing (China Telecom) replies to Saso (Intel).
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9.1.3 S2-2108609 SID NEW Approval Study on Enhancement of Network Slicing Phase 3 . ZTE, LG Electronics, Samsung, Alibaba, Apple, AT&T, CATT, China Telecom, China Unicom, Convida Wireless LLC, Ericsson, Intel, InterDigital, KDDI, Lenovo, Matrixx, MITRE, Motorola Mobility, NEC , Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell , NTT Docomo, OPPO, Oracle, Orang CC#3: r13 endorsed. Revised to S2-2109356. Antoine (Orange): Obj. 7 needs to be clarified .
Jinguo (ZTE) response and provides r01
Patrice (Huawei) comments on the updated r01, with the following considerations. We can likely accept WT1 with some refinements, we object to WT4.2 as it is irrealistic as proposed. We object to WT5 as the (unclear) justification requires either GSMA input, SA1 requirements, or should be done in eUEPO. We have concerns with WT7, especially the lack of SA1 service requirements, and the current WT7 could be acceptable if the additional SA1 requirements can be clearly identified. Further minor updates are indicated in the comments.
Myungjune (LGE) replies to Patrice (Huawei) on WT7
Alessio(Nokia) supports the r01 by Jinguo with small changes
Kundan (NEC) does not support 4.2 in r01which has lot of system/RAN impact.
alessio(Nokia) comments
Kundan (NEC) responds to Alessio
alessio(Nokia) comments this will need to work only for UEs that are capable of simultaneous registrations.... i.e. with dual RX/TX.
Srisakul (NTT DOCOMO) comments and suggests some minor change in WT1.
Jinguo(ZTE) response
Patrice (Huawei) thanks Myungjune for his clarification and proposes an update to WT7 accordingly.
Patrice (Huawei) comments on Jinguo (ZTE)'s rewording.
Jinguo(ZTE) provides r02.
Ashok (Samsung) comments on WT1
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides comments.
Alessio(Nokia) supports the wording and comments by Peter(ericsson)
Jinguo(ZTE) provides r03
Chia-Lin (MediaTek) provides the comments and ask to remove Obj. 7.
alessio(Nokia) cannot live with removal of 4.2
Jinguo(ZTE) response and think WT4.2 is out of scope this study.
Genadi (Lenovo) comments on WT1 in r03.
Patrice (Huawei) thanks Jinguo (ZTE) for the update, which is mostly fine except that objective 5 needs to be removed.
Jinguo(ZTE) replies to Genadi (Lenovo).
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) asks questions for clarification on objective 1.
Patrice (Huawei) comments, confirms his objection to any version of the SID that includes WT4.2 in one form or another.
Jinguo(ZTE) replies to Dieter (Deutsche Telekom)
Myungjune (LGE) replies to Chia-Lin (MediaTek).
Jinguo (ZTE) replies to Chia-Lin (MediaTek).
Dongeun (Samsung) supports Obj5 provided by Peter (Ericsson)
Jinguo(ZTE) provides r04
Patrice (Huawei) objects all revisions so far including r04, due to the presence of WT5. This includes objection to technical endorsement. Once WT5 is removed, barring other changes, we will support the SID.
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Alessio(Nokia comments)
Jinguo(ZTE) asks for CC#2 or CC#3. Lets see if we can agree the wording in obj 5.
Chia-Lin (MediaTek) provides comments
Jinguo(ZTE) provides r05 in draft folder, and replies to Chia-Lin (MediaTek)
Chia-Lin (MediaTek) still think Ojb.7 should have nothing to do with the UE and should be removed
Jinguo(ZTE) replies to Chia-Lin (MediaTek)
Chia-Lin (MediaTek) replies
alessio(Nokia) would certainly like this 'by the UE' bit to be removed.
Myungjune (LGE) replies to Chia-Lin (MediaTek) and Alessio (Nokia)
Patrice (Huawei) requests that WT7 is left as is (i.e. keep the 'by the UE'), as it is what answers the SA1 requirement with the clarification from Myungjune (LGE).
Chia-Lin (MediaTek) provides more comments and insists to remove Obj. 7
Patrice (Huawei) proposes further minimal rewording on WT5 to make it acceptable.
Chia-Lin (MediaTek) responds to Myungjune (LGE)
Jinguo(ZTE) provides r06 in draft folder
Chia-Lin (MediaTek) responds to Myungjune(LGE) and considers Obj. 7 is not needed as explained below
Myungjune(LGE) responds to Chia-Lin (MediaTek)
alessio(Nokia) proposes we discuss on CC#2 the latest version of the SID by Jinguo.
Patrice (Huawei) comments, and cannot accept WT7 wording in latest versions, questions the 'e.g.' in WT5. I am still looking for a revision that I can accept (none so far are acceptable).
Jinguo(ZTE) provides r07 in draft folder
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) support removing WT7.
Patrice (Huawei) thanks Jinguo (ZTE) for r07, is OK with r07, and would like to add Huawei and HiSilicon to this version.
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) Support r05 and objects to r07, r06 and any revision with objective 5 restricted to NSAC
Patrice (Huawei) (for the records) objects to all versions except r07.
Guillaume (MediaTek) responds to Myungjune (LGE)
Jinguo (ZTE) provides r08 and clarifies that solutions for obj5 may also be workable for other scenarios.
Patrice (Huawei) cannot accept r08, as we don't know what we are going to study now in obj5.
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) supports removing WT5.
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Alessio(Nokia) Support r05 but cannot live with an objective that is just NSAC oriented as the operator wants to control the UE behaviour irrespective of that (i.e. also in networks without NSAC).
Gerry Libunao (Verizon) supports r05 and objects to r07, r06 and any revision with objective 5 restricted to NSAC.
Jinguo(ZTE) propose a way forward on obj 5
alessio(Nokia) comments that bj5 should be reinstated like it was in the MED. it is not possible to keep churning things like it has been done. it was very clear the goal was controlling the UE behaviour in registration and PDU session establishment. this received wide support. we can now check who object on the call and who supports that one...
Peter Hedman (Ericsson) provides comments and proposal for objective 5
Jarmo (KPN) would like to support the study.
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9.1.3 S2-2109356 SID NEW Approval Study on Enhancement of Network Slicing Phase 3 . ZTE, LG Electronics, Samsung, Alibaba, Apple, AT&T, CATT, China Telecom, China Unicom, Convida Wireless LLC, Ericsson, Intel, InterDigital, KDDI, Lenovo, Matrixx, MITRE, Motorola Mobility, NEC , Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell , NTT Docomo, OPPO, Oracle, Orange, Qualcomm, Sanechips, Sharp, T-Mobile USA, Spreadtrum, Tencent, Verizon UK Ltd, Xiaomi - Revision of S2-2108609r13. CC#3: Technically Endorsed with an objection from Huawei. Endorsed
9.1.3 S2-2108611 REPORT Information Summary of Email discussion on FS_eNS_Ph3 ZTE(rapporteur) Noted Noted
9.1.3 S2-2108619 DISCUSSION Endorsement Motivation of supporting UPF on-board CATT Rel-18 Noted Hannu (Nokia) proposes to note the discussion paper and comments on the contents.
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9.1.3 S2-2108658 DISCUSSION Information E-mail discussion on Personal IoT Network (PIN). Zhenhua Xie / vivo Noted Laurent (Nokia): proposes to Note this discussion paper (objects to any of version of this Tdoc) and to concentrate on the SID discussion
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9.1.3 S2-2108659 DISCUSSION Information Updated discussion on SID of Personal IoT Network architecture vivo Noted Laurent (Nokia): proposes to Note this discussion paper (objects to any of version of this Tdoc) and to concentrate on the SID discussion
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9.1.3 S2-2108660 SID NEW Approval New SID on Personal IoT Network architecture. Vivo Mobile Communications Ltd, CATT, China Telecom, Convida Wireless, InterDigital, KPN, OPPO, Philips, Spreadtrum Communications, T-Mobile USA, Tencent CC#3: r14 agreed. Revised to S2-2109357. Antoine (Orange) comments on WT#2.
Zhenhua (vivo) responds to Antoine (Orange) and provides r01.
Laurent (Nokia): Comments and suggests some changes
Sherry (Xiaomi) Comments.
Stefan (Ericsson) comments
Guliang (Inspur) support this SID and would like to co-source the SID.
Laurent (Nokia): suggests a revision with only WT1, WT2, and WT3 and Neither WT4 nor WT5 (as in the S2-2108660-SID-PIN - Nokia version put in /drafts)
Zhenhua (vivo) provides r02
Zhenhua (vivo) asks Laurent (Nokia) whether r02 is OK, which removed WT5
Antoine (Orange) requests further edition of WT#2.1.
Amanda ( Futurewei ): provide r03 to add identifying PIN in WT#1.2 and WT#2.1
Zhenhua (vivo) provide r04
Zhenhua (vivo) provides r05 to add more supporter and co-source.
Zhenhua (vivo) provides r06
Zhenhua (vivo) provides r07 to correct the dependency in TU estimates.
Walter Dees (Philips) does not agree with the sentence that no changes to ProSe and non-3GPP access can be assumed, and proposes revision r08.
Laurent (Nokia): Zhenhua do you endorse this r08? asks also a question to Walter
Walter (Philips) apologizes for sending the revision r08 instead of a company revision
Hualin(Huawei) disagree with Walter (Philips)'s comments.
Zhenhua (vivo): Clarified r08 is not provided by rapporteur, and responds.
Sherry(Xiaomi) comments.
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Walter (Philips) responds to Hualin (Huawei) and Sherry(Xiaomi).
Zhenhua (vivo) provides r09 in draft folder based on r07 to only add new supporter and co-source company.
Laurent (Nokia): Comments: What is problematic is NOTE 1
Zhenhua (vivo) replies to Laurent (Nokia)
Walter Dees (Philips) cannot agree with revisions r02, r03, r04, r05, r06, r07 and r09 if the last sentence in the second to last NOTE is not removed or updated. Propose to discuss in CC#3 unless some agreement can be reached beforehand.
Zhenhua (vivo) thanks Walter (Philips) to provides suggestion on the NOTE modification.
Hualin(Huawei) can't agree the revised NOTE.
Laurent (Nokia): objects to any version between R00 and R05 both included. Can live with R06/R07 but wants first Note 1 to be clean and then to have a look at the TU numbers that heavily depend on Note 1. If ProSe WT about non 3GPP support is agreed, reusing ProSe solution is Mandatory
Hong (Qualcomm) comments.
Hualin(Huawei) support the way proposed by Nokia
Sherry(Xiaomi) supports the way forward proposed by Laurent.
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Zhenhua (vivo) provides a wording proposal for the NOTE.
Zhenhua (vivo) provides r10 in CC#2 folder.
Hong (Qualcomm) propose some new wording for the NOTE.
Zhenhua (vivo) provides r11 in CC#2 folder to adopt wording to the NOTE proposed by Hong (Qualcomm).
Walter Dees (Philips) proposes a change to the wording of the NOTE.
Sherry (Xiaomi) is fine with Hong's wording and Walter's proposal to the NOTE.
Zhenhua (vivo) provides r12 in CC#3 folder.
Zhenhua (vivo) provides r13 in CC#3 folder
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9.1.3 S2-2109357 SID NEW Approval New SID on Personal IoT Network architecture. Vivo Mobile Communications Co. Ltd, CATT, China Mobile, China Telecom, Convida Wireless, InterDigital, KPN, OPPO, Philips, Spreadtrum Communications, T-Mobile USA, Tencent, Futurewei, Xiaomi, Inspur, Guangdong Genius, Apple - Revision of S2-2108660r14. Approved Approved
9.1.3 S2-2108661 DISCUSSION Information Updated discussion on SID of UE Aggregation for Industry with Multi-connectivity vivo Noted Noted
9.1.3 S2-2108662 SID NEW Approval New SID on UE Aggregation for Industry with Multi-connectivity. Vivo Mobile Communications Ltd, China Telecom, China Unicom, CATT, Spreadtrum Communications CC#3: Noted LaeYoung (LGE) asks a Q for clarification.
Qian (LGE) provides comments.
LaeYoung (LGE) just wants to clarify that Qian is not from LGE but from Ericsson. ^__^
Qian (Ericsson) re-sends the mail to indication the source company is 'Ericsson' (Copy/Paste mistake).
Haris(Qualcomm) proposes revision in DRAFTS folder
Saso (Intel) seeks clarification.
Saso (Intel) provides additional comment.
Antoine (Orange) comments.
Devaki (Nokia) provides _revNokia (on top of _revQC). Devaki requests to ignore r01 as it was provided by mistake. We are also supportive of 5GC based solution to be studied (without impacting RAN for UE aggr) in Rel-18.
Fei (OPPO) comments.
Zhenhua (vivo) responds
Zhenhua (vivo) responds to Qian (Ericsson).
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) has strong concerns with the proposal.
Marco (Huawei) objects to the new WT addition.
Haris(Qualcomm) asks question to Marco (Huawei)
Zhenhua (vivo) provides r02
Qian (Ericsson) comments and expresses concerns
Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) comments
Marco (Huawei) replies to Haris (Qualcomm)
Haris(Qualcomm) comments
Saso (Intel) objects to this SID.
Jinsook (DISH Network) comments
Marco (Huawei) comments
Zhenhua (vivo) provides r03
Zhenhua (vivo) replies
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Jinsook (DISH Network) as a clarification
Saso (Intel) replies.
Devaki (Nokia) objects to all the SID versions (as long as RAN impact is ticked). As commented earlier, we are ok with studying system solutions for the objectives proposed but not ok with RAN impact.
Zhenhua (vivo) replies to Jinsook (DISH Network)
Zhenhua (vivo) replies to Saso (Intel).
LaeYoung (LGE) proposes to NOTE this SID and objects to all versions.
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) objects to this SID as per previous comments.
Marco (Huawei) objects to r02 and r03 as per previous comments.
Saso (Intel) replies to Zhenhua (vivo).
Haris(Qualcomm) objects to r03
Antoine (Orange) objects to r02.
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Devaki (Nokia) can also accept r02 (removing RAN impact or at least marking it as don't know).
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9.1.3 S2-2108671 SID NEW Approval New SID: Architectural enhancements for 5G multicast-broadcast services Phase 2. Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-18 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107550 from S2#147E. CC#3: r10 agreed. Revised to S2-2109362. Antoine (Orange) objects to WT 1.3.
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) objects to WT1.3.
Robbie (Ericsson) provides r00-Ericsson in DRAFTS folder.
Miguel (Qualcomm) objects to WT 1.3, still has concerns with WT 1.2.
Thomas (Nokia) comments against changes suggested by Robbie.
Thomas (Nokia) points to requirements for WT 1.2 and WT 1.3 in TS 22.101
Miguel (Qualcomm) responds to Thomas, the referenced requirements do not apply
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) answers to Thomas.
LiMeng (Huawei) answers and clarifies.
LaeYoung (LGE) provides comment while pointing out that LiMeng (Huawei) provided r01 previously.
Robbie (Ericsson) disagree with Thomas (Nokia) and also asks whether 8:5 is a clear majority.
Zhenhua (vivo) questions on TU of WT2, and suggest to split WT4.
Robbie (Ericsson) provides r01-Ericsson in DRAFTS folder, reinstate WT#4.3 which is important for public safety use cases, and asks why this valid requirement is removed
Zhuoyi (China Telecom) supports the SID and would like to co-source it.
Kaixin (CBN) answers to Antoine and Dieter.
LaeYoung (LGE) asks a Q to Kaixin (CBN).
Sherry (Xiaomi) provides a revision on top of r01-Ericsson in DRAFTS folder
Kaixin (CBN) answers to LaeYoung.
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) answers Kaixin(CBN).
Wanqiang (Huawei) comments.
LaeYoung (LGE) thanks to Kaixin (CBN).
Relja (TNO) supports this SID and would like to be added to the list of supporting companies. Some comments are also provided.
LiMeng (Huawei) thanks for sharing the views and provides r02 and r03.
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Robbie (Ericsson) reiterates that WT#4.3 is important for public safety, which is also shown in MED. As such, propose to be included in the SID.
Miguel (Qualcomm) objects to r02 and any revision with WT 1.3.
Thomas(Nokia) supports r02.
Relja(TNO) supports r02.
Robbie (Ericsson) provides r02-Ericsson and r03-Ericsson in DRAFTS folder, reinstate WT#4.3 on top of r02 and r03 provided by Rapporteur. We believe this WT is important for scalability of MBS and building more complex features on top of Rel-17 architecture.
Antoine (Orange) objects r00, r01 and r02.
Ihab (FirstNet) We support Ericsson and we would like to see WT#4.3 in the scope of the WID since it is important for public safety.
Miguel (Qualcomm) objects to r03, due to the addition of this statement in Justification 'In addition, the FTA-type data reception (i.e., broadcast reception by devices with no subscription or with 3rd party content provider subscription only) for NR can be supported in Rel-17 by configuring reception information at UE side.' We can accept r03 if that sentence is removed.
James (AT&T) supports Ericsson and FirstNet to include WT#4.3 in the scope of the WID since it is important for public safety.
Thomas(Nokia) has concerns about extra objective suggested by Robbie.
Reminds Robbie of the results of moderated email discussion and that we are already above the time budget,
LiMeng (Huawei) provides r04 with removing the sentence highlighted by Miguel, and asks to check r02 and r04 in CC#2.
Robbie (Ericsson) objects to all revisions without WT#4.3.
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) we also insist on removing the sentence highlighted by Miguel.
Zhendong (ZTE): r02 is better
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9.1.3 S2-2109362 SID NEW Approval New SID: Architectural enhancements for 5G multicast-broadcast services Phase 2. Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-18 Revision of S2-2108671r10. Approved Approved
9.1.3 S2-2108692 DISCUSSION Information Discussion about Uu based sensing vivo Rel-18 Noted Noted
9.1.3 S2-2108760 SID NEW Approval Study on Passive Internet of Things (Passive IoT) for 5G Advanced . China Mobile, Spreadtrum Communications, Huawei, HiSilicon, China Telecom, China Unicom, CATT, Tencent, vivo, Quanray, NTT DOCOMO, Vodafone, Alibaba, CAICT Rel-18 Noted Chunhui (Spreadtrum) provides the revision(r01) with 2 additional supporting companies.
Hannu (Nokia) comments that since the corresponding SA1 SID is not approved and it's targeting Rel-19, it is not possible to plan the SA2 work in Rel-18.
LaeYoung (LGE) proposes to NOTE this SID because she believes that use cases, scenarios, service requirements and performance requirements need to be identified in SA1 first. This will be able to put the studies in downstream groups in the right direction.
Leo (Deutsche Telekom) objects this SID for SA2 in Rel-18.
Hannu (Nokia) supports the proposal to note this SID in Rel-18 due to lack of service requirements.
Saad (Interdigital) proposes to note this SID.
Miguel (Qualcomm) proposes to NOTE this SID proposal, in favor of a proper study in SA1
Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) provides comments.
Chunhui(Spreadtrum) replies Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.)'s comments.
Chunhui(Spreadtrum) replies LaeYoung (LGE)'s comments.
LaeYoung (LGE) does not get the answer from Chunhui (Spreadtrum).
Chunhui (Spreadtrum) answers LaeYoung (LGE).
LaeYoung (LGE) responds to Chunhui (Spreadtrum).
Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) responds.
Chunhui(Spreadtrum) responds to Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.).
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Miguel (Qualcomm) objects to this SID in all revisions.
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9.1.3 S2-2108766 SID NEW Approval New SID: Study on Seamless UE context recovery. Samsung, NEC, CableLabs, Cisco, InterDigital Inc. Rel-18 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107383 from S2#147E. r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109324. Haris(Qualcomm) comments
Laurent (Nokia): Comments
Lalith(Samsung) agrees with Haris and Laurent and provides r01
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9.1.3 S2-2109324 SID NEW Approval New SID: Study on Seamless UE context recovery. Samsung, NEC, CableLabs, Cisco, InterDigital Inc. Rel-18 Revision of S2-2108766r01. Approved Approved
9.1.3 S2-2108768 OTHER Information Email discussion on Passive IoT SID. China Mobile, Spreadtrum Communications Rel-18 Noted Hannu (Nokia) comments that the proposed way forward is not acceptable as it does not reflect the outcome of the moderated email discussion.
Miguel (Qualcomm) fully agrees with Hannu (Nokia) that the moderator proposed way forward does not reflect the company positions expressed in the MED, and cannot accept proposed way froward.
Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) proposes to just note this document and not to endorse the WF proposals
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9.1.3 S2-2108769 SID NEW Approval New SID on 5G Architecture enhancements for Harmonized Communication and Sensing service. Huawei, HiSilicon, vivo, CAICT, China Unicom, China Mobile, China Telecom, CATT, ZTE, OPPO, ROBERT BOSCH GmbH, NTT DOCOMO, TCL, Philips, Xiaomi, Lenovo, China Security and Protection Industry Association Rel-18 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107636 from S2#147E. Noted Antoine (Orange) asks clarification about RAN impacts.
Wanqiang (Huawei) feedback and clarify the way how to decouple from the RAN1/2 work.
Leo (Deutsche Telekom) objects to all versions/revisions of the SID.
LaeYoung (LGE) proposes to NOTE this SID because she believes that use cases, scenarios, service requirements and performance requirements need to be identified in SA1 first. This will be able to put the studies in downstream groups in the right direction.
Hong (Qualcomm) comments about the RAN dependency.
Shabnam (Ericsson) sharing same concerns as given before, as well we do not see what only CN based sensing architecture study would benefit without actual service requirements. As such, objects to the study proposal in Rel-18.
Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) comments
Saso (Intel) maintains the same position of previous meeting and proposes to note this SID.
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9.1.3 S2-2108770 DISCUSSION Information Moderated email discussion summary on FS_HCS. Huawei (moderator) Rel-18 Noted Noted
9.1.3 S2-2108771 DISCUSSION Discussion Harmonized Communication and Sensing service (HCS) Huawei, Hisilicon, vivo, CAICT, China Unicom, China Mobile, China Telecom, ZTE, CATT, China Security and Protection Industry Association Rel-18 Noted Noted
9.1.3 S2-2108773 SID NEW Approval New SID about AF control of 5GC groups. Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-18 CC#3: This was noted. Sang-Jun (Samsung) proposes that 8773 should be merged to 8574. The objectives of 8574 seem to include those of 8773.
Rainer (Nokia) replies to Sang-Jun (Samsung).
Sang-Jun (Samsung) asks Rainer (Nokia) a question.
Sebastian (Qualcomm) asks a question
Rainer (Nokia) replies.
Qianghua (Huawei) prefers one SID for group management and group communication
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Sebastian (Qualcomm) objects to the SID; would be ok if WT4 was removed
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Susana (Vodafone) supports this SID and comments
Sebastian (Qualcomm) replies to Rainer and provides r01 in drafts folder
Rainer (Nokia) replies and provides r01 to CC#3 folder.
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9.1.3 S2-2108774 SID NEW Approval New SID on 5G support for Femto. Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-18 Noted Hualin(Huawei) still have strong concerns as in last meeting, since there is RAN work on this so far. So, we propose to note this SID.
Rainer (Nokia) replies.
Stefan (Ericsson) has same concerns as Hualin (Huawei)
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) has also concerns with the proposal
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Stefan (Ericsson) objects to this SID
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Noted
9.1.3 S2-2108779 DISCUSSION Discussion Sensing capability for support of Low-Altitude intelligent network in UAV industry CSPIA (China Security and Protection Industry Association) Rel-18 WITHDRAWN Withdrawn
9.1.3 S2-2108855 SID NEW Approval New SID: new Study on the support for 5WWC, Phase 2. Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Huawei, HiSilicon, Deutsche Telekom, Broadcom, Lenovo, Motorola Mobility, Qualcomm, KPN, China Telecom, CableLabs CC#3: r09 agreed. Revised to S2-2109363. Laurent (Nokia): Comments
Laurent (Nokia): Comments and provides r01
Marco (Huawei): provided Huawei's position on WTs in draft folder. Huawei proposals for revision of 5WWC SID are included in S2-2108936.
Stefan (Ericsson) provided 5WWC poll paper in DRAFTS folder
Farooq (AT&T) provides 5WWC poll paper in DRAFTS folder (adds to E/// input)
Myungjune (LGE) comments on WT 3a
Laurent (Nokia): answers
Sebastian (Qualcomm) provides Qualcomm comments for 5WWC poll paper
Marco (Huawei) proposes to prepare a revision with only non controversial objectives as minimum basis
Curt (Charter) provides comments for 5WWC poll paper
Myungjune (LGE) provides comments for 5WWC poll paper
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) provides comments for 5WWC poll paper.
Laurent (Nokia): provides the result of the polling about 5WWC
Laurent (Nokia): provides the result of the polling about 5WWC with a summary for each WT, provides R02 and r03 (fairly minimalistic)
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) comments on WT2 d) Support of emergency calls, for UE(s) connected behind the 5G RG.
Saso (Intel) comments on WT#2a and WT#2b. Proposes to remove them.
Hualin(Huawei) object r02 and r03. We propose to remove objective 2d and 2e based on r02 as further revision r04.
Laurent (Nokia): asks Hualin whether he is sure to object to r03, this is about emergency calls
Tyler (OTD) comments on WT#2b, supports keeping it.
Laurent (Nokia): provides r04 that should replace r03 (corrects a bug in TU calculation)
Saso (Intel) replies.
Laurent (Nokia): provides r05
Marco (Huawei) comments WT2a
Hualin(Huawei) answers
Hualin(Huawei) suggest to remove emergency calls. But not very insistent.
Hualin (Huawei) comments on r05.
Laurent (Nokia): provides r06
Laurent (Nokia): provides r07
Laurent (Nokia): provides r08
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Curt (Charter) comments on WT selection process
Laurent (Nokia): with BBF and CL we have worked via LS in the past and need to go on that way
Laurent (Nokia): answers: WT07/WT08 had a an overwhelming majority of concerns 8 against 1 support
Curt (Charter): Charter can only support R02 or any version post and including R04 that is updated to also contain WT2e and WT2f.
Sebastian (Qualcomm) objects to r00 to r02; is ok with other versions; flexible on WT2e and WT2f
Laurent (Nokia): is happy to support R04, R06 or R07 with WT2e, WT2f (added back to any of R04, R06 or R07). Suggest that we consider discussing R07 with WT2e, WT2f being readded during the CC2
Marco (Huawei) can only support r03,04,05,06 that are updated also containing WT3d (No r00, r01, r02, r07, r08)
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) can only support r04, 06 with or without adding WT4b, but not more. Objects to all other versions.
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Stefan (Ericsson) can only support r04, r06 as is. (R03, R05 in principle OK but they have same objectives as r04, r06 respectively). Objects to other versions.
Sriram (CableLabs): is happy to support R04 with WT2e, WT2f added back.
marco (Huawei): if further discussion in CC2, also Wt3d
Laurent (Nokia): is happy to support R04, R06 or R07 with WT2e, WT2f (added back to any of R04, R06 or R07). Suggest that during the CC2 we consider discussing R06 with (WT2e + WT2f +W3d) being readded and the package being agreed!
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Aditya (Comcast): Comcast shares the views expressed by Charter and Nokia. We will support R02 or any version post
Laurent (Nokia): I have put a .pptx for the SoH in Inbox/CC/CC2
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9.1.3 S2-2109363 SID NEW Approval New SID: new Study on the support for 5WWC, Phase 2. Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Huawei, HiSilicon, Deutsche Telekom, Broadcom, Lenovo, Motorola Mobility, Qualcomm, KPN, China Telecom, CableLabs, Charter, Apple - Revision of S2-2108855r09. Approved Approved
9.1.3 S2-2108868 SID NEW Approval New SID on Access Traffic Steering, Switching and Splitting support in the 5G system architecture; Phase 3. Lenovo, Motorola Mobility, ZTE, Broadcom, Apple, Alibaba, Tencent, China Mobile, Convida Wireless, Deutsche Telekom, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Samsung, Interdigital, Matrixx, Cisco Systems, Charter Communications, CableLabs, Comcast, CATT, Intelsat, Viv Rel-18 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107635 from S2#147E. CC#3: r03 endorsed. Revised to S2-2109358. Marco (Huawei) per techical comments in S2-2108920, we confirm objection to WT5.2.
Marco (Huawei) comment and proposed revision of WT5.1 in folder INBOX/DRAFTS/ ATSSS_ph3_discussion.
Tricci (OPPO) shares the same concern with Marco (Huawei) for objective 5.2 and has further questions on other objectives.
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) maintains objection from last meeting to WT5.2.
Huan (vivo) shares the same concern with previous comments to WT5.2.
Rainer (Nokia) replies.
Apostolis (Lenovo) responds to Tricci (OPPO).
Dario (Qualcomm) replies
Marco (Huawei) comments to Dario (Qualcomm)
Marco (Huawei) point out that revision of WT5.1 as in folder INBOX/DRAFTS/ ATSSS_ph3_discussion are essential to make WT 5.1 acceptable.
Marco (Huawei) asks clarification on WT 5.3
Apostolis (Lenovo) confirms that the changes to WT5.1 requested by Marco (Huawei) will be implemented in r01.
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) answers to Dario .
Omkar (CableLabs) agrees with Qualcomm's view and indicates support for WT#5.2.
Stefan (Ericsson) expresses concerns with WT#5.2
Farooq (AT&T) also expresses concern on WT5.2.
Apostolis (Lenovo) provides r01
Apostolis (Lenovo) responds to Marco (Huawei) on WT5.3.
Marco (Huawei) proposes revision of WT5.
Marco (Huawei) proposes a revision of WT5 (to himself).
Apostolis (Lenovo) comments on WT#5.2.
Dario (Qualcomm) replies to Apostolis
Apostolis (Lenovo) provides r02.
Marco (Huawei) comments and confirm concern on 5.2
Farooq (AT&T) asks question for clarification
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Farooq (AT&T) suggests adding a Note to the objectives
Apostolis (Lenovo) responds to Farooq (AT&T).
Farooq (AT&T)responds to Apostolis (Lenovo)
Omkar (CableLabs) responds on removal of WT#5.2
Apostolis (Lenovo) comments that the Note suggested by Farooq (AT&T) is only needed if we keep WT#5.2.
Marco (Huawei) objects R00, R01. OK with r02 with comment for clarification
DongYeon (Samsung) supports keeping WT#5.2.
Rainer (Nokia) supports also keeping WT5.2
Spencer (Tencent) also supports keeping WT5.2.
Apostolis (Lenovo) supports keeping WT5.2 with a clarification Note.
Rainer (Nokia) is ok with the Note.
Stefan (Ericsson) objects to r00, r01. OK with r02.
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) objects to r00, r01. OK with r02.
Tyler (OTD) supports r02.
Dario (Qualcomm) is OK with r00, r01 (also with NOTE by Farooq) and objects to r02
Omkar (CableLabs) is OK with r00, r01 and objects to r02
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Spencer (Tencent) agrees with Dario (Qualcomm).
Tricci (OPPO) supports ONLY r02 with the NOTE (see below) suggested by Farooq.
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9.1.3 S2-2109358 SID NEW Approval New SID on Access Traffic Steering, Switching and Splitting support in the 5G system architecture; Phase 3. Lenovo, Motorola Mobility, ZTE, Broadcom, Apple, Alibaba, Tencent, China Mobile, Convida Wireless, Deutsche Telekom, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Samsung, Interdigital, MATRIXX Software, Cisco Systems, Charter Communications, CableLabs, Comcast, CATT, Intelsat, Vivo, BT, Thales, HPE, Tessares, Telefonica, KPN, Orange, MediaTek Inc., Rogers Communications Canada, Huawei, Xiaomi, Bouygues Telecom, US Cellular, ETRI Rel-18 Revision of S2-2108868r03. CC#3: Technically Endorsed with an objection from Qualcomm Endorsed
9.1.3 S2-2108896 SID NEW Approval New SID on Study on Architecture Enhancements for Vehicle Mounted Relays . Qualcomm Incorporated, Sony, InterDigital Inc. AT&T, Verizon UK Ltd, ZTE Corporation, Telstra, vivo Mobile Communications Ltd, Volkswagen AG, Philips International B.V., Xiaomi, SyncTechno Inc., FirstNet, Lenovo/Motorola Mobility, LG Electronics, Rakuten Rel-18 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107310 from S2#147E. r03 agreed. Revised to S2-2109325. Laurent (Nokia): Comments
Lars (Sony) asks Laurent (Nokia)
Laurent (Nokia): answers
Hong (Qualcomm) provides r01.
Wanqiang (Huawei): Comments on the new added 'NOTE 1: The study aims to avoid introducing new RAN architectures.'
Hong (Qualcomm) provides r02.
Wanqiang (Huawei) feedback the update does not work.
Hong (Qualcomm) replies to Wanqiang.
Wanqiang (Huawei) replies to Hong.
Hong (Qualcomm) provide r03 and r04.
Sherry (Xiaomi) comments.
Hong (Qualcomm) provides r05 (based on r03) and r06 (based on r04).
Shabnam (Ericsson) proposes to continue on r05 path.
Wanqiang (Huawei) comments on r05.
Laurent (Nokia): we have reservation/concern on the approach in R04 and R06
Relja (TNO) would like to be added to the list of supporting companies. TNO finds r05 as a good basis. Relja responds to Wanqiang (Huawei) and pose a question to Hong(Qualcomm).
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Hong (Qualcomm) replies to Relja.
Laurent (Nokia): objects to R00, R01,R02, R04, R06
Hong (Qualcomm) replies to Laurent.
Wanqiang (Huawei) proposes to go with r03.
Laurent (Nokia): answers to Hong
Hong (Qualcomm) replies and fine with either r03 or r05 route.
Lars (Sony) fine with r03.
Sherry (Xiaomi) is fine with either r03 or r05.
LaeYoung (LGE) is fine with r03.
Relja (TNO) is fine with both r03 and r05.
Jean Yves (Thales) is fine also with either r03 or r05.
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9.1.3 S2-2109325 SID NEW Approval New SID on Study on Architecture Enhancements for Vehicle Mounted Relays . Qualcomm Incorporated, Sony, InterDigital Inc. AT&T, Verizon UK Ltd, ZTE Corporation, Telstra, vivo Mobile Communications Ltd, Volkswagen AG, Philips International B.V., Xiaomi, SyncTechno Inc., FirstNet, Lenovo/Motorola Mobility, LG Electronics, Rakuten Mobile Inc., Thales, TNO, Apple Rel-18 Revision of S2-2108896r03. Approved Approved
9.1.3 S2-2108904 SID REVISED Approval New SID: Study on system architecture for next generation real time communication services. China Mobile, China Unicom, Huawei, Hisilicon, ZTE, CATT, Vivo, Deutsche Telekom, T-Mobile USA, Ericsson, AT&T Rel-18 Revision of (Approved) S2-2108165 from S2#147E. Approved Mario (TI) Telecom Italia supports this study.
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Jarmo (KPN) also supports this study.
Susana (Vodafone) supports the study.
Approved
9.1.3 S2-2108915 REPORT Information Moderated Email Discussion summary for FS_VMR_ARC Qualcomm Incorporated Rel-18 Noted Noted
9.1.3 S2-2108920 DISCUSSION Approval Consideration on ATSSS WT #5 objectives. Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-18 Noted Noted
9.1.3 S2-2108936 DISCUSSION Approval Considerations on 5WWC SID objectives. Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-18 Noted Laurent (Nokia): proposes to Note this discussion paper (objects to any of version of this Tdoc) and to concentrate on the SID discussion
Marco (Huawei): This paper provides the motivations for all Huawei's comments to the 5WWC SID, hence this information will be used directly in SID email discussion
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Noted
9.1.3 S2-2108938 SID NEW Approval New Study on Service-based N2. Intel, Qualcomm Incorporated, Deutsche Telekom, Verizon UK Ltd., AT&T, Microsoft, Orange, Cisco, InterDigital, Broadcom Rel-18 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107100 from S2#147E. Noted Laurent (Nokia): Objects to this Tdoc and any of its revisions
Shabnam (Ericsson) objects to this SI, already stated reasons during SA2#147E and additional NOTE adds more confusion and concern as it seems the study extends on discussing AN/CN functional split.
Wanqiang (Huawei) maintains the same position of previous meeting and proposes to note this SID.
Jicheol (Samsung) share the same view with Nokia, Ericsson and Huawei.
Jinguo(ZTE) shares the same view with Nokia, Ericsson, Huawei, and Samsung.
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9.1.3 S2-2108960 DISCUSSION Endorsement FS_ATSSS_Ph3: Dual 3GPP access for PLMN + SNPN and PLMN + PLMN Qualcomm Incorporated Rel-18 Noted Marco (Huawei) propose to note the DP
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9.1.3 S2-2108973 SID NEW Approval New SID: PWS over non-3GPP access. Apple, Verizon UK Ltd, Broadcom, Convida Wireless Rel-18 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107773 from S2#147E. CC#3: Noted Haris(Qualcomm) objects to this SID since there are no regulatory and SA1 requirements
Krisztian (Apple) has a concern regarding Qualcomm's objection as it is not based on technical ground. There's at least one operator (Verizon) interested to study PWS over WLAN as a service improvement without regulatory mandate. The increased probability of successful warning message delivery (e.g. in indoor environment) is a clear improvement to PWS service resulting in better user experience. In addition, it's unclear what kind of new SA1 service requirements are necessary to make PWS service available over non-3GPP access. We think there are architectural and protocol impacts but PWS service experience remains the same for the user. Hence, we still think the work can start from SA2.
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Haris(Qualcomm) comments that the objection is absolutely based on technical grounds since there are no regulatory and service requirements for SA2 to accomplish
Krisztian (Apple) responds: as commented before, TS 22.268 states that PWS, ETWS and CMAS deployment depends on operator decision or national regulations. National regulations are not the only driving force to improve the service, it is up to operator decision. There's operator interest to deploy PWS service improvement. Furthermore, PWS requirements in TS 22.268 are not dependent on access technology. We are proposing to re-create the same service experience on non-3GPP access that is already available on 3GPP access using the existing PWS service requirements present in TS 22.268. Hence, the objection by Qualcomm has no ground.
Dieter (Deutsche Telekom) propose to note the SID as PWS is not in SA2 responsibility.
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Krisztian (Apple) asks to make a decision at CC#2 regarding this proposal.
CT1 owns Stage-2 Cell Broadcast Service (CBS) for 3GPP access, TS 23.041 is called 'Technical realization of Cell Broadcast Service (CBS)'.
The proposal here is PWS over non-3GPP access that can't be based on CBS. SA2 is the group to tackle new work with architectural impacts. Offloading work to CT1 is of course a possible way forward but that's for SA to decide during prioritization.
Krisztian (Apple) asks to make a decision at CC#2 regarding this proposal.
CT1 owns Stage-2 Cell Broadcast Service (CBS) for 3GPP access, TS 23.041 is called 'Technical realization of Cell Broadcast Service (CBS)'.
The proposal here is PWS over non-3GPP access that can't be based on CBS. SA2 is the group to tackle new work with architectural impacts. Offloading work to CT1 is of course a possible way forward but that's for SA to decide during prioritization.
Krisztian (Apple) asks to make a decision at CC#2 regarding this proposal.
CT1 owns Stage-2 Cell Broadcast Service (CBS) for 3GPP access, TS 23.041 is called 'Technical realization of Cell Broadcast Service (CBS)'.
The proposal here is PWS over non-3GPP access that can't be based on CBS. SA2 is the group to tackle new work with architectural impacts. Offloading work to CT1 is of course a possible way forward but that's for SA to decide during prioritization.
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9.1.3 S2-2108982 DISCUSSION Discussion Sensing capability for support of Low-Altitude intelligent network in UAV industry. CSPIA (China Security & Protection Industry Association) Rel-18 Noted Noted
9.1.3 S2-2108987 DISCUSSION Discussion DISC On AMF relocation in connected mode. NEC, Rel-18 Noted Noted
9.1.3 S2-2108989 REPORT Information Moderated email discussion summary on FS_INCP China Telecom (moderator) Noted Noted
9.1.3 S2-2108990 REPORT Information Moderated Email Discussion summary for FS_ESSIND China Telecom Noted Noted
9.1.4 - - - Revision of Rel-18 SID/WID proposal TECHNCIALLY ENDORSED at SA2#147E - - Docs:=7 -
9.1.4 S2-2108433 SID NEW Approval New SID on Enhancement to the 5GC LoCation Services Phase 3. CATT, Huawei Rel-18 Revision of (Endorsed) S2-2108170 from S2#147E. r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109326. Ming (CATT) provides r01.
Ming (CATT) provides r02, with one more supporting company, two WT merge and better WT#7 wording.
Jingran (OPPO) provides comments on some WTs.
Ming(CATT) reply to Jingran (OPPO).
Relja(TNO) would like to be added to the list of supporting companies.
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9.1.4 S2-2109326 SID NEW Approval New SID on Enhancement to the 5GC LoCation Services Phase 3. CATT, Huawei Rel-18 Revision of S2-2108433r02. Approved Approved
9.1.4 S2-2108474 SID NEW Approval New SID on Study on 5G Timing Resiliency and TSC enhancements . Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell, Verizon, AT&T, Sennheiser, Huawei, HiSilicon, Matrixx, ZTE, China Unicom, Vivo, NTT Docomo, ETRI, Xiaomi, Orange, China Mobile, KDDI, Tencent, T-Mobile USA, Interdigital, Samsung, CATT, Deutsche Telekom, Ericsson, Denso, BMWi, Rel-18 Approved Susan (Huawei) provides a revision.
Sebastian (Qualcomm) raises concerns for the draft revision provided by Huawei
György (Ericsson) comments.
Devaki (Nokia) comments.
Susan (Huawei) replies to Sebastian (Qualcomm).
Susan (Huawei) replies to György (Ericsson).
Devaki (Nokia) provides r01.
Susan (Huawei) replies to Devaki (Nokia).
Susan (Huawei) is ok with r01.
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György (Ericsson) replies to Huawei.
György (Ericsson) objects to r01, proposes to go with original version.
Devaki (Nokia) asks if we can go with the original version r00?
Susan (Huawei) replies to Devaki (Nokia) and accept to move with the original version r00.
Devaki (Nokia) thanks Susan (Huawei) for the understanding and accepting r0.
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Approved
9.1.4 S2-2108525 SID NEW Approval New WID on Study on System enhancement for Proximity based Services in 5GS - Phase 2 . CATT, OPPO Rel-18 Revision of (Endorsed) S2-2108162 from S2#147E. CC#3: r06 endorsed. Revised to S2-2109359. Judy (Ericsson) comments
Fei (OPPO) responds to Judy (Ericsson)
Judy (Ericsson) responds to Fei (OPPO)
Hannu (Nokia) supports Judy's comment on WT#2 TUs and provides a draft revision.
Steve (Huawei) comments
Mehrdad (Samsung) does not agree with the view shared on removing WT#4 and WT#9.
Hong (Qualcomm) comments and share the view of Samsung.
Ihab (FirstNet) FistNet does not agree with removing WT5 & WT6 for multi-hop support since it is an important feature for Public Safety
James Hu (AT&T) comment that removing WT4, WT5 and WT6 are not acceptable to us. These WTs shall stay within this SID.
Heng (China Telecom) dose not agree the removal of WT4 and WT9
Deng Qiang (CATT) responds and provides r01.
LaeYoung (LGE) comments on r01.
Deng Qiang (CATT) provides r02.
Mehrdad (Samsung) comments on r02
Deng Qiang (CATT) provides r03 and r04.
Fei (OPPO) comments.
Fei (OPPO) responds to Steve (Huawei)
Ihab (FirstNet) FistNet will object to any revisions of the SID that propose the removal of WT5 & WT6 for multi-hop support
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James Hu (AT&T) provides comments: we are ok with r03 with WT5 and WT6 included and object r04 and all revisions without multi-hops support.
Hannu (Nokia) has got sympathy with WT#5 and #6, but SA2 is the wrong place for this battle. Since RAN has already de-prioritised these topics out of Rel-18, there is no point to include them in SA2 study either.
Hannu (Nokia) still doesn't see the need for WT#9 but can live with revision where the service continuity aspect is removed from WT#4.
Hannu (Nokia) does not oppose the SID but requests it to be handled in CC due to high number of budgeted TUs.
Asks also why is WT#9 still included in the draft SID when 10 companies spoke against it in MED process?
Steve (Huawei) objects to any revision that includes WT#9 (all so far, r00, r01, r02, r03, r04).
Mehrdad (Samsung) suggests to take r03 and r04 to CC#3. We prefer r04 and object to any revisions without WT#9
Hong (Qualcomm) replies to Steve.
Hannu (Nokia) objects to r03 and r04, but proposes to take r04 as the template for further work. WT4, 5, 6 and 9 have all been challenged so r05 with all of them removed would give us a subset of the SID that probably nobody would object based on what it includes. (some might object it based on what it does not, though)
Mehrdad (Samsung) does not agree on removing WT#4 and WT#9 and objects to any new revisions based on this
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James (AT&T) understands RAN dependency with WT#5 and #6. RAN has NOT decided to exclude this feature yet for R18, it is premature to exclude it in this SID. Our position stands.
Steve (Huawei) comments.
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9.1.4 S2-2109359 SID NEW Approval New WID on Study on System enhancement for Proximity based Services in 5GS - Phase 2 . CATT, OPPO Rel-18 Revision of S2-2108525r06. CC#3: Technically Endorsed with an objection from Nokia on WT#4 Endorsed
9.1.4 S2-2108593 DISCUSSION Agreement Discussion on enhancement for URLLC. Huawei, HiSilicon Noted Noted
9.1.4 S2-2108690 DISCUSSION Decision Discusson about AI based positioning vivo Rel-18 Noted Noted
9.1.5 - - - Revision of Rel-18 SID/WID proposal APPROVED at SA2#147E - - Docs:=13 -
9.1.5 S2-2108416 SID NEW Approval New SID on Study on architecture enhancement for XR and media services . China Mobile, Huawei, Hisilicon, Tencent, Xiaomi Rel-18 Revision of (Approved) S2-2108156 from S2#147E. r07 agreed. Revised to S2-2109360. Paul (Ericsson) provides comments and questions for clarification.
Dario S. Tonesi (Qualcomm) provides S2-2108416_Qualcomm in the draft folder.
Dan (China Mobile) provides r02 and please ignore r01
Devaki (Nokia) provides -revNokia in the DRAFTS folder.
Hui (Huawei) replies to Paul (Ericsson) .
Hui (Huawei) fine with Devaki's proposal.
Paul (Ericsson) asks questions for clarifications and provides comments.
Paul (Ericsson) asks Hui (Huawei) questions for clarification.
Hui (Huawei) replies.
Dan(China Mobile) provides r03
Paul (Ericsson) replies to Hui (Huawei) and asks questions for clarifications.
Hui(Huawei) replies..
Paul (Ericsson) replies to Hui (Huawei).
Hui(Huawei) replies to Paul (Ericsson).
Dario (Qualcomm) thanks and provides S2-2108416r02_QC in the draft folder.
Dan(China Mobile) provide r04 to reflect Hui's update.
Dan (China Mobile) thanks Dario's mention and provide r05,and thanks for Yang(oppo)'s offline comment and provide r06
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Dan (China Mobile) suggest to accept r06
Dario (Qualcomm) objects to r03, 4, 5, 6. Can accept r02 + TU adjustment.
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Devaki (Nokia) comments that r01 based on _Nokia revision is missing. Requests that the SID is brought up to CC#2/#3 as it has a pending EN, TU(s) do not match thus changes have to be done. Original version cannot be approved due to pending issues that have not been resolved yet.
Dan(China Mobile) provide update r06 in CC#2
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9.1.5 S2-2109360 SID NEW Approval New SID on Study on architecture enhancement for XR and media services . China Mobile, Huawei, Hisilicon, Tencent, Xiaomi Rel-18 Revision of S2-2108416r07. Approved Approved
9.1.5 S2-2108424 DISCUSSION Discussion Discussion on Topic for NWDAF-assisted RFSP Index Selection in R18. China Telecom Rel-18 Noted Belen (Ericsson) disagree to add this objective to eNA_Ph3 as it would need their own SID.
Leo (Deutsche Telekom) has similar concerns as Ericsson, eNA should not be extended to be applicable to EPC.
Yannick (Nokia): Nokia provides comments and share concerns expressed already on this proposed eNA_Ph3 work task.
Zhuoyi (China Telecom): China Telecom replies to Yannick and Belen.
Belen (Ericsson) replies to China Telecom, still disagrees to add this objective to eNA_Ph3 SID.
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9.1.5 S2-2108437 SID NEW Approval New SID on enhancement of 5G AM Policy. China Telecom Rel-18 Revision of (Approved) S2-2108155 from S2#147E. r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109327. Sicheng (SGCC) supports the SID and would like to co-sign it.
Kaixin (CBN) supports the SID.
Jing (CAICT) supports the SID and would like to co-sign it.
Zhuoyi (China Telecom) provides r01 with new supporting companies.
Guliang (INSPUR) supports this SID and please add Inpurt as supporting companies.
Zhuoyi (China Telecom) provides r02 with Inspur as new supporting company.
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Susana (Vodafone) supports this SID and asks to be included as supporting company.
Zhuoyi(China Telecom) provides drafting r03 with Vodafone in supporting company.
Revised
9.1.5 S2-2109327 SID NEW Approval New SID on enhancement of 5G AM Policy. China Telecom Rel-18 Revision of S2-2108437r02. Approved Approved
9.1.5 S2-2108455 SID REVISED Approval New SID: Study on enhancement of 5G UE Policy. Intel, Qualcomm Incorporated, OPPO, ZTE, NTT Docomo, vivo, Telecom Italia, China Unicom, Huawei, HiSilicon, Vodafone, CATT, MediaTek, KPN, China Telecom, CMCC, KDDI, Xiaomi, Apple, Verizon UK Ltd, Samsung, Lenovo, Motorola Mobility, LG Electronics, Rakute Rel-18 r02 agreed. Revised to S2-2109328. Changhong (Intel) provides r01 to be consistent the new SID template.
Changhong (Intel) provides r02 to add DISH Network as supporting company.
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9.1.5 S2-2109328 SID REVISED Approval New SID: Study on enhancement of 5G UE Policy. Intel, Qualcomm Incorporated, OPPO, ZTE, NTT Docomo, vivo, Telecom Italia, China Unicom, Huawei, HiSilicon, Vodafone, CATT, MediaTek, KPN, China Telecom, CMCC, KDDI, Xiaomi, Apple, Verizon UK Ltd, Samsung, Lenovo, Motorola Mobility, LG Electronics, Rakuten Mobile Inc., Ericsson, Convida Wireless, Orange, DISH Network Rel-18 Revision of S2-2108455r02. Approved Approved
9.1.5 S2-2108552 SID NEW Approval New SID on Enhancement of support for Edge Computing in 5G Core network - phase 2 Huawei, HiSilicon, Alibaba, China Unicom, Convida Wireless, Intel, Toyota, vivo, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-18 Revision of (Approved) S2-2108166 from S2#147E. r01 agreed. Revised to S2-2109329. Samsung supports this SID.
Guliang(Inspur) supports this SID and please add Inspur as supporting company.
Patrice (Huawei) thanks Jicheol (Samsung) and Guliang (Inspur) for their support.
Jarmo (KPN) thanks for support given to add the proposed objective in a new revision S2-2108552 and replies to whether to include the objective to WT7 or to add a new WT9
Zhuoyun (Tencent) supports the SID.
Patrice (Huawei) thanks Zhuoyun (Tencent) for their support and provides r01 with the additional supporting companies and the content of S2-2108897.
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Susana (Vodafone) supports this SID
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9.1.5 S2-2109329 SID NEW Approval New SID on Enhancement of support for Edge Computing in 5G Core network — phase 2 . Huawei, HiSilicon, Alibaba, China Unicom, Convida Wireless, Intel, Toyota, vivo, Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell Rel-18 Revision of S2-2108552r01. Approved Approved
9.1.5 S2-2108749 SID NEW Approval Study on Enablers for Network Automation for 5G - phase 3. China Mobile, vivo Rel-18 CC#3: r08 agreed. Revised to S2-2109361. Antoine (Orange) provides r01.
Aihua(CMCC) replies and provides r02.
Aihua(CMCC) provides r03 to make alignment between the first column and the last on the WT tag .
Xiaobo(vivo) replies and provides r04.
Yannick (Nokia): Nokia provides comments. Nokia cannot agree to reduce the TU estimates agreed in SA2#147E without changing the work tasks description. Nokia cannot agree to remove WT#3.1 and WT#3.5.
Farooq (AT&T) provides proposal on down scoping the study
Guliang (Inspur) support the SID and would like to co-source it.
Belen (Ericsson) objects to all revisions presented so far, supports AT&T proposal to discuss thos WT that start with 'whether and how' for downscoping.
Juan Zhang (Qualcomm) supports to trigger a discussion for down scoping but not just simply reduce the total number.
LaeYoung (LGE) also thinks that down-scoping is needed instead of just down-sizing to unrealistic TUs.
David (Samsung) supports avoiding plain down-sizing without adjustments in the scope.
Dimitris (Lenovo) supports the view that any changes to TU would require adjustments in the scope
Antoine (Orange) provides r05.
Aihua (CMCC) replies and provides r06.
Malla (NTT DOCOMO) object r06.
Malla (NTT DOCOMO) further comment.
Belen (Ericsson) objects to r06
Juan Zhang (Qualcomm) proposes to start a moderate email discussion.
David (Samsung) comments.
Aihua(CMCC) comments and provides r07 as the basis for potential MED.
Belen (Ericsson) comments on r07 and ask for updates
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Xiaobo(vivo) reply Belen's comments.
Yang (OPPO) provides the rewording suggestion.
Belen (Ericsson) still objects to r07. Provides a rewording suggestion
Yannick (Nokia): Nokia objects to all revisions that attempt to remove some work tasks (r01, r02, r03, r04, r06) and to initial version that reduces the TU estimates without appropriate down-scoping for the work. We should have proper moderated email discussion to further reduce the number of work tasks and suggest to discuss the details for this at a CC during this meeting.
Xiaobo(vivo) support the proposal from Yannick(Nokia) to reword WT#3.8.
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Aihua(CMCC) provides drafting r08 for further check.
Revised
9.1.5 S2-2109361 SID NEW Approval Study on Enablers for Network Automation for 5G - phase 3. China Mobile, vivo Rel-18 Revision of S2-2108749r08. Approved. It was noted that the TU Budget for this needs further off-line work. Approved
9.1.5 S2-2108993 LS In Action LS from 5GAA: LS on Enhancements on QoS Sustainability analytics in the context of the Study on Enablers for Network Automation for 5G - phase 3 (FS_eNA_Ph3) 5GAA (5GAA_S-210186) Postponed Postponed
9.1.5 S2-2108897 DISCUSSION Agreement DP on new objective for FS_eEDGE_5GC_ph2: potential solutions for the AF to be able to obtain/determine the DNAI in Release 18. KPN, Huawei Rel-18 Noted Patrice (Huawei) proposes to endorse S2-2108897 and include the proposed objective in a revision of S2-2108552.
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9.2 - - - Review of the Work Plan, Rel-17 WID Status Reports - - Docs:=25 -
9.2 S2-2108492 WORK PLAN Information Work_plan_3gpp_211001_Filtered_SA2 MCC Noted Noted
9.2 S2-2108302 WI STATUS REPORT Information EV2XARC_Ph2 status report LG Electronics Rel-17 Revised to S2-2109374. Revised
9.2 S2-2109374 WI STATUS REPORT Information EV2XARC_Ph2 status report LG Electronics Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108302. Noted Noted
9.2 S2-2108435 WI STATUS REPORT Information SA WG2 Status report for eLCS_Ph2 CATT Rel-17 Noted Noted
9.2 S2-2108439 WI STATUS REPORT Information MINT Status Report LG Electronics Rel-17 Revised to S2-2109379. Revised
9.2 S2-2109379 WI STATUS REPORT Information MINT Status Report LG Electronics Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108439. Noted Noted
9.2 S2-2108464 WI STATUS REPORT Information ENPN Status Report Ericsson (rapporteur) Noted Noted
9.2 S2-2108487 WI STATUS REPORT Approval IIoT Status report Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell (Rapporteur) Rel-17 Noted Noted
9.2 S2-2108524 WI STATUS REPORT Information 5G_ProSe Status Report CATT Rel-17 Revised to S2-2109375. Revised
9.2 S2-2109375 WI STATUS REPORT Information 5G_ProSe Status Report CATT Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108524. Noted Noted
9.2 S2-2108610 WI STATUS REPORT Information ENS_Ph2 status report ZTE Rel-17 Revised to S2-2109376. Revised
9.2 S2-2109376 WI STATUS REPORT Information ENS_Ph2 status report ZTE Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108610. Noted Noted
9.2 S2-2109377 WI STATUS REPORT Information eEdge_5GC status report Huawei Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108720. Noted Noted
9.2 S2-2108669 WI STATUS REPORT Information 5MBS Status Report Huawei,HiSilicon Rel-17 Revised to S2-2109380. Revised
9.2 S2-2109380 WI STATUS REPORT Information 5MBS Status Report Huawei,HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108669. Noted Noted
9.2 S2-2108691 WI STATUS REPORT Information Report_eNA_ph2 vivo Rel-17 Revised to S2-2109378. Aihua(CMCC) provides r01. Revised
9.2 S2-2109378 WI STATUS REPORT Information Report_eNA_ph2 vivo Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108691. Noted Noted
9.2 S2-2108720 WI STATUS REPORT Information eEdge_5GC status report Huawei Rel-17 Revised to S2-2109377 Revised
9.2 S2-2108826 WI STATUS REPORT Discussion IoT_SAT_ARCH_EPS Status Report MediaTek Inc. Rel-17 r01 Revised to S2-2109382. Guillaume (MediaTek Inc.) provides r01. Revised
9.2 S2-2109382 WI STATUS REPORT Discussion IoT_SAT_ARCH_EPS Status Report MediaTek Inc. Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108826r01. Noted Noted
9.2 S2-2108957 WI STATUS REPORT Information SA WG2 Status report for MUSIM Intel (rapporteur) Rel-17 Revised to S2-2109381. Revised
9.2 S2-2109381 WI STATUS REPORT Information SA WG2 Status report for MUSIM Intel (rapporteur) Rel-17 Revision of S2-2108957. Noted Noted
9.2 S2-2109021 WI STATUS REPORT Information WI Status Report for ARCH_NR_REDCAP China Mobile (rapporteur) Rel-17 Noted Aihua(CMCC) provides status report for ARCH_NR_REDCAP. Noted
9.2 S2-2109370 WI STATUS REPORT Information ID_UAS status report Qualcomm (Rapporteur) Rel-17 Noted Noted
9.2 S2-2109383 WI STATUS REPORT Information SA WG2 Status report for 5GSAT_ARCH Thales (Rapporteur) Noted Noted
9.3 - - - Planning future meetings - - Docs:=0 -
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99 - - - Withdrawn and Reserved documents - - Docs:=105 -
99 S2-2108901 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] Reply LS on IMS Data Channel Architecture China Mobile Response to S2-2108297. WITHDRAWN Withdrawn
99 S2-2108899 LS OUT Approval [DRAFT] Reply LS on the scope of applying Network Slicing feature in Rel-17 and Rel-16 China Mobile Response to S2-2108264. WITHDRAWN Withdrawn
99 S2-2108900 CR Approval 23.501 CR3308R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Network slicing support for SNPN China Mobile Rel-17 Revision of (Noted) S2-2107501 from S2#147E. WITHDRAWN Withdrawn
99 S2-2108898 SID REVISED Approval Study on system architecture for next generation real time communication services China Mobile, China Unicom, Huawei, Hisilicon, ZTE, CATT, Vivo, Deutsche Telekom, T-Mobile USA, Ericsson, AT&T Rel-18 Revision of (Approved) S2-2108165 from S2#147E. WITHDRAWN Withdrawn
99 S2-2108306 CR Approval 23.401 CR3617R2 (Rel-16, 'F'): On alignment of RACS capability detection with RAN WG3 Nokia, Nokia Shanghai Bell,Qualcomm Inc, Ericsson Rel-16 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2100064 from S2#143E. WITHDRAWN Withdrawn
99 S2-2108337 CR Approval 23.501 CR3361 (Rel-17, 'F'): Correction to UE-Slice-MBR support Ericsson Rel-17 WITHDRAWN Withdrawn
99 S2-2108954 CR Approval 23.501 CR3459 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on the input of PCF/NEF/MB-SMF service operation ZTE Rel-17 WITHDRAWN Withdrawn
99 S2-2108344 CR Approval 23.503 CR0669 (Rel-16, 'F'): Selecting the same PCF for all UE PDU Sessions to a DNN, S-NSSAI when SSC mode 3 applies Ericsson Rel-16 WITHDRAWN Withdrawn
99 S2-2108345 CR Approval 23.503 CR0670 (Rel-17, 'A'): Selecting the same PCF for all UE PDU Sessions to a DNN, S-NSSAI when SSC mode 3 applies Ericsson Rel-17 WITHDRAWN Irfan (Cisco) provides r01
Haris(Qualcomm) cannot accept r01 since it creates ambiguity re the requirement for SSC mode 2
Withdrawn
99 S2-2108588 CR Approval 23.501 CR3396 (Rel-17, 'F'): Extending MA PDU Session Control information in the PCC Rule Huawei, HiSilicon Rel-17 Revision of (Agreed) S2-2107828 from S2#147E. WITHDRAWN Withdrawn
99 S2-2108885 DISCUSSION Approval DP on new objective for FS_eEDGE_5GC_ph2: potential solutions for the AF to be able to obtain/determine the DNAI in Release 18. KPN, Huawei Rel-18 WITHDRAWN Withdrawn
99 S2-2108541 CR Approval 23.501 CR3387 (Rel-17, 'F'): Multiple PTP instances supported in 5GS Tencent, Tencent Cloud Rel-17 WITHDRAWN Devaki (Nokia) has concerns with the CR.
Sang-Jun (Samsung) comments that 8847 replaces 8541.
Withdrawn
99 S2-2108528 CR Approval 23.501 CR3385 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification for NSAC of home-routed PDU Sessions China Unicom Rel-17 WITHDRAWN Withdrawn
99 S2-2108393 CR Approval 23.287 CR0173 (Rel-17, 'F'): Update to Nnrf_NFManagement_NFRegister service operation Ericsson Rel-17 WITHDRAWN Withdrawn
99 S2-2108418 CR Approval 23.502 CR3143R1 (Rel-17, 'F'): Network slice status notifications when multiple NSACFs exist for one S-NSSAI China Mobile Rel-17 Revision of (Postponed) S2-2107221 from S2#147E. WITHDRAWN Withdrawn
99 S2-2108454 CR Approval 23.256 CR0034 (Rel-17, 'F'): Clarification on UUAA-SM optimization procedures Samsung Rel-17 WITHDRAWN Withdrawn
99 S2-2108383 CR Approval 23.304 CR0043 (Rel-17, 'F'): Update to Nnrf_NFManagement_NFRegister service operation Ericsson Rel-17 WITHDRAWN Withdrawn
99 S2-2108432 SID NEW Approval New SID on Enhancement to the 5GC LoCation Services Phase 3. CATT, Huawei Rel-18 Revision of (revised and endorsed) S2-2107083 from S2#147E. WITHDRAWN Withdrawn
Created:      END OF LIST
OPEN documents: 0
Parallel Agreed: 0
Approved/Endorsed: 46
Agreed: 268
Replied to LSs: 17
Noted: 295
Merged: 54
For e-mail approval: 0
Postponed: 79
Withdrawn: 26
Total documents: 1048